Shoot a NIB VP70?

Status
Not open for further replies.
K

KodeFore

Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2005
Messages
459
So I was shopping for my 50th bday gift gift to myself thinking along the lines of a sw500 or something cool when I came across an original HK VP 70. Not just a hard to find pistol but this one is NIB it has all the original stuff in the box including the factory test target. They want 1100 which seems reasonable for what it is. I have great respect for the history of this father of all tactical Tupperware guns. The thing is if i spent that much on a handgun I'm gonna wanna shoot the thing. How much it hurt the value? Would it be disrespecting a historical piece to start shooting it? I would love to compare it to my VP 9 and gen 5 g17

Just how much damage would I be doing to buy it and start shooting it?
 
Congratulations on finding and considering a NIB VP 70. However, there may be a couple of points to consider. Are you sure that it's NIB? You mention "all the original stuff," but often the first thing that disappeared on these was the green foam pad in the bottom of the box. They just rotted away over the years. Yes, it's a very minor thing, but is it still there and if not, what else is missing? You also mention that "1100 ... seems reasonable...." If you watch the on-line auction sites, you can find a NIB VP 70 for considerably less. Finally, while not exactly sure what you are expecting, it's not very reasonable to compare a VP70 with a VP9 or a Glock. Yes, they are similar in that they are both "Tupperware guns" but beyond that it's like comparing a Model T to a Mustage GT350 -- there are more than a few differences. Apart from that, let us know what you decide and how it shoots!
 
Well, I am not a collector, I never buy a gun wondering what it will be worth down the road.

The VP70Z is a historically significant pistol, but not one that collectors will pay thousands of dollars for in the future in my opinion.

I have shot one back in the late 70s/early 80s and can tell you the trigger is nothing like a VP9 or any Glock. It is very heavy, about 18 pounds, and has all the qualities of a staple gun trigger.

That said, if I tripped over one unfired and had the money to spare I'd buy it.
 
Is it actually NIB/UF? If so, any rounds through it would change that remarkable status and reduce the value immediately.

If it is LNIB and only fired a very few times (as in "I gotta put a mag through it to find out...") then your running a magazine through it won't change the value unless something breaks.
 
Pass at $1100. Gunbroker has one LNIB for $850. I also looked up auctions that have closed and there was one LNIB that was at $700 for a few months that didn't sell.

Several for well under that without the box. One asking $399.

They are not going to go up in price. IMHO
 
KodeFore

Kind of pricey for a gun which had a pretty heavy trigger pull and felt kind of awkward, at least in my hand. I had a P7 and a P9 that I liked a lot more than a VP70. Don't think even if it's LNIB that it's going to appreciate much more in value over the long term. Unless you have a real hankering for this particular gun I would pass on it.
 
KodeFore said:
So I was shopping for my 50th bday gift gift to myself thinking along the lines of a sw500 or something cool when I came across an original HK VP 70. Not just a hard to find pistol but this one is NIB it has all the original stuff in the box including the factory test target. They want 1100 which seems reasonable for what it is. I have great respect for the history of this father of all tactical Tupperware guns. The thing is if i spent that much on a handgun I'm gonna wanna shoot the thing. How much it hurt the value? Would it be disrespecting a historical piece to start shooting it? I would love to compare it to my VP 9 and gen 5 g17

Just how much damage would I be doing to buy it and start shooting it?
Click to expand...

If you want it bad enough, offer them $500.00. I would not buy it, for all the reasons stated above, primarily because I like to shoot my guns. I have owned enough obsolete firearms to find out, parts can be very difficult to find. For example, who stocks recoil springs? Those are consumables, if the old recoil spring has taken a set, and they do, even if the pistol has not been fired, the pistol will have function issues. Where do you get a new spring, new magazine?
 
Yes...it WAS a significant point in handgun history...but it also IS a pretty terrible example of a handgun from most perspectives. Back when they first showed up I had one in my hand and said 'No thanks' and have never regretted the decision.

I was trying to think of an automotive comparison....how about a NIB Delorean? People still want them but it's NOT because it was anything resembling a good car...it's because of the movie. As a car...they're terrible just as a handgun the VP-70 was and is. But we don't always buy things for rational reasons and if it's calling to you, and you have the cash to spend (and realizing that it's not really going to be collectable in this century) then get it and be happy. If you shoot it you'll see why they didn't sell back when they were offered and can then tell others how bad they are.:)
 
20180817_151642.jpg I'm thinking it's more LNIB than new and unified. After looking at some you tube videos of how terrible these are too shoot I think I am going to leave this on the shelf for some one more into collecting than shooting. Its definitely cool from a historical perspective.
 
I had one, sold it. I normally don't sell a gun unless I need cash, or I hate it. I hated the VP70z. That trigger!
 
If I wanted a odd ball Hk to occasionally shoot a little bit, I'd pick up another P7 or one of its variants.

I'd still like to see Hk update it and bring it back. I think a poly frame and improved heat sheilding would make a nice CCW piece. The old P7's are fantastic shooters (not something people claim often about the VP70's)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

K
  • Locked
Chinese Makarov NIB
Replies
21
Views
2K
Ken's Den
K
F
  • Locked
God help me!!! I'm starting to like Glocks...
2 3
Replies
51
Views
2K
TABING
T
J
  • Locked
Would you shoot an original 19th Century Colt?
2
Replies
36
Views
2K
J.T. Gerrity
J
Wanderling
  • Locked
Would you trade if you were in my place ?
Replies
17
Views
676
someguy2800
someguy2800
K
  • Locked
Grandson
Replies
22
Views
923
ken grant
K
Back
Top