Shot my first Dot Torture drill (SIG P230)

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I'd seen this drill in videos and articles but hadn't ever tried it before today. I shot my SIG P230, which I don't carry and don't typically shoot a lot, because I had .380 ammo loaded up and was out of everything else. Distance was 4 yards. Some people advise starting at 3 yards. I drew from a loose Bianchi IWB holster, just stuffed in my right front pocket. Reloads came from my left pocket. I obviously need to work on my weak hand, and I'm not super pleased with strong hand only either, though I guess if it breaks the line it counts. The DA first shot pull was usable two-handed and strong hand, but weak-handed I need to practice for sure. Anyway, it's a fun drill and a good way to warm up, and you might want to try it out.

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I may have to give this a whirl. I'm all about trying new drills to maintain skills. My only issue will be trying to find a place to shoot at close range. The range I frequent most has a 25 yard minimum.
 
If you look on line there's a DA/SA version as well this one which is geared more towards striker fired and SA guns.

-Jenrick
 
IMHO it's on of the best 50rd drills going.

Once you've got the knack, just increase distance or start using a par timer to increase the difficulty.
 
Love the dot torture drill. We've used it for a few years now ... I like using it to check some egos too, when some of my people get a tad bit too cocky.
 
I change up bill drills a lot. Sometimes I go deliberately slow, making every movement absolutely technically perfect, down to the trigger reset. Sometimes I shoot fast enough my accuracy suffers, but still land (somewhere) on the target. Then I sometimes do "normal" bill drills. I also incorporate lateral movement on the drawstroke.

1KPerDay, scaling it up isn't a bad idea at all. I've adapted a lot of stuff for longer ranges than normally associated with handgunning and think it's at least maintained my skill level, if not slightly improved.
 
I've been doing this drill for a while now and have made noticeable gains. I really like this drill. It forces you to focus on the basics. While it is designed for a SA only, striker fired gun, I shoot this drill with a 44 cal Redhawk in DA only. You're supposed to shoot it at 3 yrds until you can clean all 10 targets; then you move out 4 yrds, and then 5, etc etc. I shoot it at 7 yrds because that's the minimum target distance at my range.

One thing I would comment on: if you download and print from the internet, you need to make sure your print dialog box is set to "Actual Size." If you don't (if it's set to "Scale to Page" or something else), it will print the circles smaller than they're supposed to be.
 
I have this and a few others on cards. I throw them in a bucket and draw until I’ve done all of them. Just different CoF’s I’ve found kicking around over the last 20yrs which I think make good “tests of competence.”
 
Tried it with my old Glock 23 and did a bit better (but from 3 yards). I don't shoot this pistol much but every time I do, I shoot it pretty well. I just don't like the ergos. Can't argue with the results though. Next time I'll move out to 4 or 5 yards.

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Failed with Dan Wesson 1911; pulled one shot low left strong hand. D'oh!

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Major failures with S&W M&P 340PD. Sights still print way to the right even after a trip to the factory, Big Dot front sight doesn't help precision. Plus I suck. :D

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Failed with CZ75B Omega. I shot SA with the safety on to start. The DA trigger on this needs some smoothing. I pulled one shot low/right shooting weak handed. Concentration slipped, going too fast. D'oh!

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Passed with Beretta 92FS Brigadier after a quick fail/restart (see the pasty at 7 o'clock on the top dot). This pistol hits ridiculously low. I had to hold 12 o'clock to hit center at 3 yards. I then shot a Glock 19 on the same target and passed also. Time to move to 4 or 5 yards next attempt.
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What are you running for times??

I've found that when I start getting good at Dot Torture, all it takes is a few seconds off the par timer to make it humbling again.
 
Chuck R. said:
What are you running for times??

I've found that when I start getting good at Dot Torture, all it takes is a few seconds off the par timer to make it humbling again.
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Technically, according to the original intent of the drill, it's not supposed to be timed. If you clean it regularly, you can move it out further and/or set a par time. I generally practice draws/reloads as fast as I would in a match, but shoot only as fast as you can get 100% accuracy. It's not intended to be a speed drill. My failures (other than with the 340 which has sight problems in addition to being pretty difficult to shoot well) almost always occur when I get bored/tired and try to speed up. There are tons of speed drills to work on in addition to this type. I find it interesting that this drill is quite a lot more difficult that a lot of people assume it might be, judging by the fact that there's no time limit. "well that's easy... there should be one ragged hole in each dot." That's right... there should be. ;)
 
1KPerDay said:
Technically, according to the original intent of the drill, it's not supposed to be timed. If you clean it regularly, you can move it out further and/or set a par time. I generally practice draws/reloads as fast as I would in a match, but shoot only as fast as you can get 100% accuracy. It's not intended to be a speed drill. My failures (other than with the 340 which has sight problems in addition to being pretty difficult to shoot well) almost always occur when I get bored/tired and try to speed up. There are tons of speed drills to work on in addition to this type. I find it interesting that this drill is quite a lot more difficult that a lot of people assume it might be, judging by the fact that there's no time limit. "well that's easy... there should be one ragged hole in each dot." That's right... there should be. ;)
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Honestly don't know about the initial intent, but from pistol training.com:

This is a great marksmanship drill that came from David Blinder at personaldefensetraining.com.

Start at 3 yards. You have to get all 50 hits to pass. Once you can shoot the whole drill without a single miss, either increase the distance or add time pressure. For instance, try to finish the entire drill in under 5 minutes while maintaining 100% accuracy.
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https://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture

So at least they did recognize adding a time component.
 
some people have asked if I've shot this drill with a .22. Here you go... 5 yards with a Ruger MKIII 22/45, with Burris FastFire II micro RDS. I started at 5 yards because I figured it would be a breeze but alas, I failed, pulling shots low strong hand and weak hand. I rushed the shots, lost concentration, and forgot fundamentals. The dot actually exacerbates visual "wobble" and amplifies improper grip and trigger technique. Elapsed time was 4:30.

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You inspired me to try it with some carry pieces. Did pretty good with wife's g43 and my k40 covert. Not sure whether to give myself credit for the lines. Not so well with the lcp2. My alibi is I was having a hard time keeping track of the sights indoors, and it was the last of the 3. Ne 0421181311a_HDR-1.jpg 0421181311-1.jpg 0421181311c-1.jpg xt time I think I will do it again with the lcp2 and also my S&W M60.
 
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