Shotgun Basics?

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Troy Spiral

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I've been searching on yahoo for "shotgun basics" or "shotgun 101" (also searched on this forum) but it comes up with so many irrelevant links. :mad:

Anyone know a good site that goes into detail about shotguns and explains all the basics and such?

thanks in advance.
 
Shotgun 101:


Shotguns are called "SHOT" guns because they throw a pattern of birdshot (little teeny pellets) or buckshot (larger, pistol caliber pellets).
The barrel is smoothbore, like an old musket. Just plain steel, no twist inside to spin anything like a rifle.

Gauge is an old reference to how many lead balls inside the barrel made up a pound of lead I believe. The smaller the number, the larger the gauge.
.410 is the smallest (.45 Colt size), 28 gauge, 20 ga, 16 ga, 12ga, then 10ga is what you normally see.

12ga is the "standard" shotgun gauge for defense and hunting. The smaller gauges are mostly for hunting small birds, rabbits, etc where a 12 would disintegrate them.

For defense, a 00 Buckshot round is 8 or 9 .33 caliber pellets, and the "standard defense load". There's also 000 (six or seven .36 cal), #4 Buck (20 .25 cal pellets) and a few others, but 00 (called "double aught") Buck is the standard by which all are judged.

Shotguns can also shoot slugs. A slug is basically a big hunk of lead the size of the barrel. If I remember right a 12ga slug is .70 or .72 of an inch. They can be surprisingly accurate. My shotgun with rifle sights can hit a silhouette in the head when fired at 100 yards from the prone (laying down) position if I take care. Slugs penetrate like crazy, so they're normally used for hunting, or in a defense situation if the guy's in a car, barricaded behind a wall, etc.


Shotguns come in several basic types.
Single and double barrel: Break-open, load, cock the hammer if it has an external one, and fire. Very simple, design hasn't changed much since the 1870s.

Pump-action. Tube magazine fed, holds anywhere from 3 to 10 rounds, manually operated. Very reliable. You can short-stroke the gun (Not pump it all the way back) so you have to pump it like you mean it. Not normally a problem, but under stress people do weird things.

Semiautomatic: These guns work like most rifles, and the recoil or gas operated action reloads the gun for you, and you just press the trigger again. A bit more complicated for cleaning and using it, but not too much. They generally cost more than a pump action (twice as much, usually). They recoil a bit less.

Specialty types: Lever action (no longer made, or very rare) Winchester made the 1887 lever action shotgun (see it in The Mummy Returns, and T2), but it's been out of production forever. (Since about 1920 I think) though I hear a new one is out. The only other one is the Winchester 1894 in .410 lever action, but that's a squirrel-and-snake gun.

Any other questions?
 
Try this:

101 Threads

Or for more detail: here

After reading all these go out and buy Bob Bristers book.

Then read the shotgun section of these forums some more focusing on those by: Dave McCracken, Correia, SM, Erick Gelhaus, TrapperReady and others.

Good luck and happy shooting.

Smoke
 
So as far as the terminology goes , when somone says "Shotgun" its assumed that they are not "pump action" or otherwise, and that its this sort of "standard break-open shotgun" Is there a specific term for a "standard" shotgun?

Also why would somone pick the "standard" type rather than the more advanced ones? Price im assuming? As virtually all the ones you described seem more useful than the old-fashion sort.

I've also heard terms like SxS and "over under" and such what are these referencing?
 
Thoes articles are good stuff! At least now i know what questions to ask. =D

>goes off to read a bit more before asking another dumbass noobit question<
 
hey Smoke I have a question for you.

Have you got any effective techniques on how to get your copy of Brister's book back from your mates who wanted to "take a quick look at that old book you keep talking about"?? :uhoh:

I was foolish enough to let my copy out of my hands and I'm having trouble getting the darn thing back!! All I get is comments like "That book is quite good" :rolleyes: :banghead:

Might have to buy myself another copy just so I can refer to it and re-read it. :scrutiny:

Spinner
 
When someone says shotgun, they mean that long gun that throws pellets.

When they say pump gun, they generally mean a pump shotgun, although there are pump action rifles too.

O/U is over/under, a double barrel where the barrels are stacked. Hunting gun.

SXS is side by side, the Old West looking double barrels. With longer barrels, this is a hunting weapon, with short 18 or 20" barrels, this is called a "Coach gun" as stagecoach guards used this length (or longer ones, but most often the short ones for handiness). This is where the term "riding shotgun" and sitting in the right seat comes from. This is where the shotgun man sat on the stagecoach.

For bird hunting, many like the excellent balance of a double barrel, and there's very little to screw up. Two barrels, two shots, two hammers or strikers. If one breaks, you've got a spare. Skeet and trap shooters still use doubles because of the excellent balance and "swing" they have for shooting moving targets.

Duck hunters, combat shooters and others who want more than two shots generally get pump actions because of the weight, reliability and the fact that most of them are used to the action type. Manually operated, they feed anything in the right gauge (doesn't need to be a light or heavy load as long as it's the proper gauge, it'll go off)


Semiautomatics have been around since 1900 or so, and have gained a lot of ground (one of the most popular autos of all time is the Browning Auto-5, introduced in 1905 I think... finally stopped production in 1999). The nearly identical Remington Model 11 was also popular.
 
Spinner,

There are no techniques to get the book back.

Go buy yourself another one and when someone shows interest say: "you know, I had a really good book that I loaned to X. Go see if he'll let you have it"

Then go hide in the closet and read yours with a flashlight.

Smoke :D
 
Thanks for the addtional info. I had been reading all thoes 101 posts but they seem to have dissapeared. :(

Probably going to head down to a local store here in detroit on monday that supposedly has tons of new and used firearms and have a look around. For some reason i feel like im gonna walk into a gun store with a big neon sign above my head that says "SUCKER" and get cornholed by the salesman.

Still looking for a decent diagram of the innards of a shotgun with labled parts and such. "how things work" type thing. >pokes around some more<
 
www.howstuffworks.com is one of my favorite sites. They have diagrams explaining how machine guns work, from blowback to belt-fed, disintregating linkage.

But I'm a newbie too. I want to be educated... :p
 
Spinner -

I thought I taught you better than that...loaning out that book I swear...you get 'em to buy the books, get 'em to read them...then they loan them out. :p

I got an idea, not real clear on your laws and such....

You know that part about patterning loads on moving targets? When you see the fellow with the book again- "Darn...no station wagon, here grab this large target and head off accross the field , run real fast, I want to test a theory". :D

J/K
 
A semiauto shotgun works the same as a semiauto rifle, except for the tube-magazine-feed, so if you find a diagram of a semiauto rifle, it'll generally be the same.
 
It's OK SM I managed to get the book back this morning .... didn't have to threaten the patterning moving target idea, but that is a good one!! Even as he was handing the book over his fingers got kinda sticky and I just about had to wrestle it out of his hands. :rolleyes:

Oh well, I got it back that's the main thing. Now I just need to re-read it before Wednesday night. Our club has a night shoot .... apparently you can see the shot column under the lights. I'll be able to see why I'm missing. ;)

Spinner
 
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