shotgun reloading...What is a good deal?

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I really want to get into Shotgun reloading. I have been reloading rifle and pistol for many years. I want to start on shotgun though. I dont really know anything about it. I was wondering what would be the best starting setup. I will be loading 12 ga. I dont really even know who the best makers are for shotgun... does RCBS make a press? I have done just a little setup and would love to hear feedback on what people seem to find the best for a good price. Keep in mind im a poor college student but I figure reloading will be cheaper in the long run. It will help me keep my addiction of hunting also. Thank you.
 
I have MEC 600 Jr.'s, one set up for each gauge/bore (12, 20, 28, and .410). I used to shoot four gun skeet.

Made mostly of metal and they have loaded thousands of rounds each over the 20 years that i have had them.

I was able to buy the 4 600 Jr.'s for less than two of MEC's next step up manual progressive press.

There are higher volume loaders, but they cost a bunch more.

Your choice would depend in part on how much you plan to shoot.

One advantage to loading your own shells, you can load special loads, like 7/8 oz 12 gauge target loads, that are difficult to find retail.
 
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In my opinion, you can't beat the MEC Grabber- a progressive loader with 6 stations that produces one complete shotshell with each pull of the handle. Have one for sale along with reloading components if interested.
 
I started reloading shotshells about a year ago. I purchased one of the less popular gauges, so it was almost mandatory to start reloading for shotguns. I have a MEC JR press. It is simple and the ammo I produce works better then the factory ammo it replaced.

Trust me, if I can operate this machine, anyone can.
 
MEC is not SUPER pricey... Dillon is pricey... Spolar is SUPER PRICEY!!

I would get a Mec Sizemaster to start with... then if you like it move on to a progressive either MEC, Poness-Warren, or Dillon SL900....



I got a Dillon SL900 with case feeder.... that thing is a beast and I really like it but its definitely NOT for a beginner... hard for a intermediate but Dillon has great customer support
 
Get yourself a mec 650. Easy to set up and the mechanics is pretty simple. Try cacassociates.com for some super prices on mec presses and shotgun components. The big thing with shotgun loading is the price of shot! It's totally ridiculous what they want for 25# bag! One nice thing about loading is, you can control the powder and shot charge. I shoot 1oz loads for trap and thinking of going with 7/8 oz shot to save on shot.
 
The best press to start with is the mec sizemaster. It's a much finer press than the single stage rcbs and the mec jr. It will never wear out and it sizes the cases better than anything else out there. My sizemaster has loaded thousands of shells, but that being said i still have and use lee load alls and have owned progressive shotshell presses as well. If you take a look at shotshell component costs these days, you might consider the lee load all till you are sure you want to continue with the shotshell hobby.
 
go for the MEC, I started on the LoadAll -still use it for 20 gauge. Have a 9000 now and it's great. BTW- have a grabber for sale in great condo
 
Thank you all for the input. I really like RCBS because it can do 3 in and 3.5 in. I dont have much to reload as of now but this fall will be a different story. Lots of hunting to be done. Duck, Goose, pheseant, sage grouse, and more.

Another question i guess i have, what is the best reloading manual for shotshell reloading?
 
I use a MEC Grabber and a MEC 9000G. Both are good loaders and MEC has good customer support and parts are available. Shotshell reloading is much easier than metallic reloading. It should be a snap for you.

Go online and check out a shotshell cost calculator. With the current cost of components it's approx $5.50 per box if you supply your own hulls. At the current rate it will take many years for a loader to pay for itself. Most of the skeet and sporting clays reloaders that I shoot with are finding a good bulk deal on shotshells and buying them due to the cost of reloading being nearly equal to the cost of buying shells.

I'm not trying to talk you out of getting started, but with the current cost of components vs. purchasing shells -- the initial set-up is going to be a heavy investment for a light return.
 
As for books, The ABC's of reloading (shotgun version) will work - just remember to follow recipes - hulls are NOT necessaril interchangeable like metallic (where everyone scrounges range brass and uses it)

Stick to reloading either Winchester AA or Remington (any version) with the right wad, primer and powder and you'll be OK

Hodgdon and Alliant have good websites
 
I have both a Mec 600 Jr. and a Lee Load All. The Lee is functional but deffinitely a sub quality set up. On the other hand, a used Mec. 600 Jr. isn't expensive by any means and can be found quite easily, especially now days. With shot being so expensive, many shotgun loaders are getting out of the hobby. I still load a box for about $1.60 because I have found sources for reclaimed shot and inexpensive wads. But my personal recomendation if you plan on using it a good deal, is to buy the Mec 600 Jr.. Even new they aren't that expensive. Once you've done your home work, you'll have a good idea which powder bushings you'll be needing to get started, and they're only a couple of bucks each. I don't know anything about loading steel, so I can't help there. But if you are going to load 2 3/4" shells a standard M 600 Jr. will get you going. I think the newer Mec 600 Jr. will load 3" without any conversions. Mine is almost 30 yrs. old and won't load the 3" shells unless I buy a different sizing die I think. But a testimony to the quality of a Mec 600 Jr. is mine. After almost 30 yrs. of extremely heavy use it is still as relaible as the day I bought it.
A used M 600 Jr. can be found for $50 with a little searching. Often times the guys selling a used press will be throwing in a bunch of hulls, wads, powders, powder bushings, shot bars, and what not. I saw one a few weeks ago for $125 and it came with just about everything you'll ever need.
 
used Jr's are $50


I suppose that it is possible to find one in a garage sale or occasionally on Ebay for that money but not often enough to say "used Jr.s are $50". Workable Jrs are often a few dollars more than that, more practically between $50 and $100. More for .410s
On Ebay right now there are a bunch for sale. One or two may go for close to $50 but most will be a bit more than that.
Considering the cost of a new one, the ones at auction are a good deal regardless (as long as they work and are complete).
Pete
 
If you're serious about this you owe it to yourself to consider a Ponsness-Warren reloader. I have the single stage 375 unit and a progressive. They produce great ammo. the hull is inserted into a steel resizing die and it remains in the die until the loading process is complete. My bro uses one of these to load for his finicky old Weatherby auto loader; no probs at all. This is rock solid equipment that will last a lifetime.
 
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