Should i get CCW?

[chetrogers]

There are times that i would feel better carrying a weapon and there are times when i dont feel i really need to.I am contemplating getting one but i have a few question for anyone who can help

1.If you get pulled over buy a cop "for speeding or something" and they go back to there car and run ya to see if you are a criminal or wanted for anything they will know you have a ccw..will they make a big scene and point there gun at you and make you get out of the car or something..

2.I would use a shoulder type holster And if i ever wanted to take off my jacket or what ever is covering it.can you take your gun out in public in anyway to put your jacket/gun in your car ect.Or if you need to go into a bank or something and need to take it off type situation

3.when has having a weapons permit made it harder for you in anyway...

 

[Logistar]

Get it!

The way I look at it, if you suspect you will EVER need it, get it now. Your daughter's car breaks down in a bad end of town....late at night (what was she thinking!?)........ You suddenly find yourself or family member being harrassed....... etc... etc....

The problem is.... if you DON'T have a CCW now.... and you decide you need one tomorrow.... you likely won't be able to obtain a gun and a CCW that soon. It takes 2-3 months here in Kentucky.

I bought a handgun as soon as I was legally able to. My original "reason" to get my CCW was just so I wouldn't get into trouble transporting my gun(s). Didn't take long before I realized how important it was to have it with me at all times.

I accidentally carried a handgun into a prison parking lot. The guard asked if I had any firearms. I said "OF COURSE NOT!" I had forgotten that I had placed my revolver on the passenger seat the day before and pitched a jacket over it. - I know, I KNOW... a CCW would not have helped me there but perhaps some other time it might have come in handy. - No one noticed the gun at the prison though.

FWIW
Logistar

If you wear a shoulder holster, don't plan on taking off your jacket in public. I keep a pocket holster in my car at all times. If I need to take off my jacket I do it in my car before I go in or I leave the restaurant (or whatever), go to my car and DISCRETELY remove the shoulder rig and place the CCW in my pocket holster.

The ONLY time I can recall where having a CCW was a problem was when I moved and had to go to the Sheriff's office and notify them. They simply asked to see my CCW and asked me about my new address. I had to go back to the sheriff's office to pick up the new one. - It was free though.

 

[BerettaNut92]

There are times that i would feel better carrying a weapon and there are times when i dont feel i really need to.I am contemplating getting one but i have a few question for anyone who can help

Most the time I don't need to, but I like to have it anyway, just like the fire extinguisher behind my seat and the auto insurance in the glove compartment

If you get pulled over buy a cop "for speeding or something" and they go back to there car and run ya to see if you are a criminal or wanted for anything they will know you have a ccw..

Not having much experience getting pulled over so not sure what to say, other than your attitude will probably make a big difference....a CCW in California at least shows you are willing to jump thru all the hoops, and you have a clean record, unless you're Sean Penn. Not sure how common CCWs are in Oregon.

I would use a shoulder type holster And if i ever wanted to take off my jacket or what ever is covering it.can you take your gun out in public in anyway to put your jacket/gun in your car ect.Or if you need to go into a bank or something and need to take it off type situation

I carry IWB, and don't have a shoulder holster. Concealed means concealed, and if someone sees it and gets spooked, you might end up getting charged w/ brandishing. I try to stay discreet and do it in the car where no one will see me.

3.when has having a weapons permit made it harder for you in anyway...

Not so much the permit as having the piece on me. Depends who your friends are. My friends may want to hang out on campus, run to the post office, or whatever or some place I might not be able to have a gun legally on me. If they don't know I carry, I have to deal with stashing it somewhere discreetly.

 

[spacemanspiff]

My shotgun makes Jehovah witnesses think before they knock

your signature line has me wondering...does your shotgun make an appearance at the door before you do? is your shotgun displayed on your doorstep? do you display your shotgun to those who knock on your door? do you consider jehovahs witnesses to be a threat to your safety, and necessitates the display of a firearm to quell such a threat?

 

[XLMiguel]

Get one!

Like muscles, rights atrophy if you don't exercise them!

By and large, I have had no problem with the constabulary with a CWP. In fact, It has generally helped me as 'a good guy'when dealing with the local cops, i.e., they've cut me a bit of slack when pulled over. No excuse for speeding, but they did appreciate the fact that I informed them I had a CWP and was armed, and asked them how they would like to proceed. Don't count on it, though, behave yourself.

As far as carrying goes, it will take a bit of experimentation to find what works bestr for you and your body type, For me, a shoulder holster works in cooler times, an OWB at 4 o'clock under a loose shirt is good for summer. YMMV

 

[Standing Wolf]

A C.C.W. license is a lot like a fire extinguisher: you hope you never need it, but you keep it handy all the same.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

How you handle traffic stops depends on the state laws governing your CCW and your personal preference. Some states require you inform the officer you have a CCW and some leave it up to you. In some states, when the LEO runs your driver's license, you will show up as a CCW holder.

In Florida, it is not required to inform the LEO when stopped. My personal choice is to inform the LEO and let him decide how he wants to handle it. I've had some that took possession of the gun until he was done with the ticket and some that didn't care.

Being able to wear a shoulder holster and remove your jacket in public is also depended on your state. In Florida, open carry is not permitted in public. When they say concealed weapon, that is exactly what they mean, out of sight.

One thing you didn't mention is training. If you are going to carry a handgun in public, you need to be proficient with that handgun. That means frequent practice, including drawing the gun from concealment. If CCW holders start blowing away bystanders instead of bad guys, in addition to having to live with it the rest of your life, it gives the antis fuel to fight CCW laws.

 

[blackhawk2000]

As I was just telling a gun owning co-worker today, get one if for no other reason that to be a number on paper. It can only help the gun cause. As a bonus no waiting for the background check to go thru(in Michigan at least) when purchasing new guns. If you ever feel the need to have a gun on you for whatever reason, you just grab it and go(no waiting months to get it). And of course their is always the possiblilty some anti cop with a chip on his shoulder will pull you over, and prone you out, but IMO that is rather unlikey.

Personally I carry it everywhere. You never know when you will need it much like car insurance.

 

[chetrogers]

The reason i wanted a sholder type holser is because im a big guy and just thought it would be the best place..but am open to suggestions if any other big guys have any suggestions..

 

[Logistar]

I really think your holster choice is a matter of individual preference. I wear shoulder holsters whenever I can but most people I talk to don't like them. - no problem when driving and sitting... fast access... carry spare ammo on off-side... just not so good for warm weather I suppose.

Most likely, you will have to experiement to find out what works best for you.

 

[Matthew Courtney]

10 years ago, when I was 6'2" and weighed 150. I carried IWB easily.

A wife, 3 kids, and 50 pounds later, I carry OWB, SOB, and armpit.

Dressing around the gun is harder. The biggest expense of CCW for me is not training or fees, it is clothing. I live in south Louisiana. It is hot and humid 10 months per year. As I write this at 10:30 PM local time, it's 81 degrees and 90 % humidity, with a 90 degree "feels like quotient".

 

[Jim March]

From everything I've heard, once a state has had shall-issue CCW for a while (such as Oregon) police attitudes towards permitholders tend to be pretty mellow. BUT, I've heard more bizarre stories about Portland (OR) PD than any other department in that size range...dunno what the hell they're putting in their donuts up there but...damn. Like this:

http://www.equalccw.com/johnlaws

And that ain't the only such weirdness; one friend I trust was locked up for days on a mistaken ID, she repeatedly asked 'em to run her prints but they refused, convinced they knew what was up.

Anyways. Barring anything unusual, genuine *concealed* carry shouldn't net you any trouble.

The absolute easiest form of "all the time carry" is a fanny pack. Fits with any weather condition and any type of clothes short of a suit or similar semi-formal or formal wear.

The "inside waist band" rig can be really good worn somewhere back near the strong-side kidney or forward to the side of the hip...rearward is more comfortable for most and only slightly slower. If you have fairly wide hips, the position back over the kidney won't hang up on a seat arm as you sit or get up. BUT a quality IWB rig isn't that easy to find. I make a small number for friends, hand-fitting them to the person and gun, no mail order.

A good IWB rig is "tuckable" - the shirt can be shoved down between the gun and the inside edge of the pants. A good IWB setup can be concealed wearing nothing but pants, a good but ordinary looking belt and a T-shirt. If you're wearing a jacket, you have the option of tucking the shirt in between you and the gun, concealing it with the jacket alone...this makes your draw speed faster, usually as quick as a conventional outside-the-pants belt holster.

What else...I strongly recommend against true "small of back" carry, right on the spine. Land back there, and it's broken spine time. Many well-established holster makers refuse to build them at all; while I wouldn't call myself that, I similarly refuse for safety reasons.

 

[Carlos]

Chet, shoulder holsters in Winter, IWB in Summer.

I like the Fire Extinguisher analogy the best.

So, here's what you do.

1. Go to Northwest Armory and take the Saturday 'approved' class. Guy's name is Clyde Caseras. I learned a lot from that guy.

2. After getting your proof, call the Clackamas County Sheriff's office and find out what days they do intakes for CCW, then schedule that appointment.

3. Take cash in hand on appointment day, do background check, show Safety Class form, get fingerprinted, electronically.

4. Wait up to 45 days

When a cop pulls you over in Oregon, I was informed by Clyde that they automatically know, when they pull your record. You simply state at the outset IF pulled over that you have a CCW, keep hands on the wheel and respond to officer's instructions.

Most officers will not freak out on you, unless you're doing something stupid.

Get that license to carry. You'll never regret it, but be advised, you're accepting a higher level of responsibility than your average sheeple.

Carl

 

[chaim]

My thoughts on this, living in a non-CCW state, is that if your state has CCW laws get one even if you never think you'll actually carry. As others have said, you may occasionally find a situation where you'd like to take a gun with you and if you don't have a permit and chose to carry you are in the same boat as me here in MD. If nothing else I really do think it is a good idea to carry to and from the range. Someone sees you come out of a gun range with a bag and they know you have something that the criminal element considers a very desirable item. I haven't been robbed coming out of the range but it is nice to be prepared when it is so obvious I have something that expensive and otherwise desirable with me. The last reason is politics- if you support the right to CCW then show it, vote with your time and dollars and get the permit.

 

[CZ 75 BD]

In the words of a great American...

Michelle Malkin: "Don't leave home without it."

 

[Carlos]

Trust me, Chet, it's easy to get a CCW in Oregon.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Every honest armed citizen in the street

Every honest armed citizen on the street,

who quietly goes about his business, day in and day out

does more than tweak the nose of the Brady Bunch.

We make them unprincipled, and unforgiven liars.