Sig 225 A-1 Discontinued?

[Plan2Live]

I went to Sig's website to look up something and noticed the 225 A-1 is no longer listed in their lineup. Was this pistol discontinued? I bought mine midway through 2019. These are great pistols, often described as a Baby Legion. If they are discontinued I will be sad to see another great DA/SA pistol removed from the marketplace. I much prefer DA/SA and Sig makes a very fine pistol.

I'm sure there will be those who will read this post and reply that the 225 has limited capacity for its size, a complaint you don't hear about 1911s. Personally I've never felt the need for more than 8+1 capacity and I like the weight of a metal framed pistol.

I'm pushing 60 so I'm sure this pistol and the 6 magazines I bought with it will last me the rest of my life but I'm still sad to see this pistol being retired. I guess I better call Sig tomorrow and order a parts kit.

 

[.455_Hunter]

No surprising. Sig loves to discontinue some of their best products (P239, P290RS) for more of the same striker-based junk.

 

[JR24]

No surprising. Sig loves to discontinue some of their best products (P239, P290RS) for more the same striker-based junk.

Never could like the 239 or 245, just didn't fit my hands at all and I'd rather have a 229 or 220, or a officer 1911 even better.

As for the 225, it does seem that they are gone for 2020.

https://osagecountyguns.com/blog/%CAtegory%25/sig-2020-releases/

 

[Plan2Live]

Never could like the 239 or 245, just didn't fit my hands at all and I'd rather have a 229 or 220,

I had just the opposite reaction. Double stack Sigs never fit my hand, I always felt like the trigger was too far forward for my hand. Some suggested the E2 grips as the answer but I never liked the look of those. The 220 suited me but I have no use for .45acp.

I carried a 239 for over 5 years and loved that gun, even though I never found an OWB, vertical draw (no cant), leather holster purpose built for that pistol. My oldest son liked that pistol a lot too so I gave it to him as a graduation present when he graduated college. I bought the 225 as a replacement for the 239. I'm glad I bought the 225 and spare mags when I did.

 

[golden]

I am not surprised. I have a SIG 225 and it has the most ergonomic grip on an mid or large size pistol for me. When they announced they were bringing back the 225, I was ready to buy at least one. Imagine my disappointment when I found out the were producing a completely different gun with different magazine. I passed.

Jim

 

[Plan2Live]

Imagine my disappointment when I found out the were producing a completely different gun

I handled a used P225 and a P6 prior to buying my 225 A-1. I thought the DA trigger pull on both the P225 and the P6 were awful. The 225 A-1 DA pull is heavenly right out of the box and is improving with use. It's too bad Sig couldn't have blended the old and the new keeping the best aspects of both.

 

[HPCadm17]

I let a P225-A1 get away and I regret it to this day. To me it was the best-fitting classic SIG and had all the right features out of the box.

 

[WVsig]

The P225 A-1 was a frankengun. It is not the original P225 or Surplus P6. The real P225 was discontinued long ago. The new one the P225-A1 was based off the P239. Once the P239 was discontinued the P225 -A1 was going to follow.

 

[JDGray]

I had a 225-A1, and it was a good pistol, but when you can double the capacity, with damn near the same size grip/reach, I think it's a no brainer for Sig. Sales must have been down, is all I can think. Sad to see it go, we need more choices, not less! lol

 

[Old Dog]

I handled a used P225 and a P6 prior to buying my 225 A-1. I thought the DA trigger pull on both the P225 and the P6 were awful. The 225 A-1 DA pull is heavenly right out of the box and is improving with use. It's too bad Sig couldn't have blended the old and the new keeping the best aspects of both.

Agree. I have a 225A1, and it's a great pistol. The women in the family love it as its grip size is perfect for most ladies.

The P225 A-1 was a frankengun. It is not the original P225 or Surplus P6. The real P225 was discontinued long ago. The new one the P225-A1 was based off the P239.

For me, the key to appreciating the 225A1 was to not think of it in the context of the original 225 or P6 -- it's its own pistol, and a worthy one at that. I found it to be an improvement on the 239. It's a great pistol for teaching new shooters with, fits most peoples' hands, and is a soft-shooting, fun little gun.

 

[Olympus]

If Sig would have kept to the original squared trigger guard on their new P225, I would have bought one. But they had to go and change the frame to something that was used for another model and that ruined it for me.

 

[JR24]

If Sig would have kept to the original squared trigger guard on their new P225, I would have bought one. But they had to go and change the frame to something that was used for another model and that ruined it for me.

Agree.

If they had kept the old design and not modified a 239 I'd own one.

Not sad I sold my 225 back in the day, the guy needed it and I needed the cash, but I do regret not snagging a pristine one I had for a good price a few years later.

 

[JR24]

I handled a used P225 and a P6 prior to buying my 225 A-1. I thought the DA trigger pull on both the P225 and the P6 were awful. The 225 A-1 DA pull is heavenly right out of the box and is improving with use. It's too bad Sig couldn't have blended the old and the new keeping the best aspects of both.

The old 225 I had's trigger was very nice, better than the 239 and 245 I owned, but not as good as my old 220.

A relative has the 225-A1 and had the trigger worked over by Bruce Gray, very nice now. Just don't like how the new grip profile feels.

 

[Jim Watson]

It wouldn't have had the attempt at cachet of the P225-A1, but a P239 with a grip bulked out to original P225 profile would have been a good gun. I am surprised one of the micarta carvers didn't make one aftermarket.

 

[Old Dog]

Perhaps more people would have warmed to the pistol had it been introduced with a brand-new designation (223? 231?) instead of being called a 225, which for some reason folks just can't get past. I get the sentimental attachment to the old 225/P6. I'm afflicted with a fondness for the classic P-series pistols myself, in case no one knew.

It's a nice pistol that stands on its own merits, numerical model name aside.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

I never understood why the 225A1 wasn't simply an updated 225 that used the same mag as the original. The mag difference and cost of it compared to the old 225's is why I never got into them

 

[WVsig]

I never understood why the 225A1 wasn't simply an updated 225 that used the same mag as the original. The mag difference and cost of it compared to the old 225's is why I never got into them

They had not made those mags for something like 10 years when they brought back the 225A1. For them it made more sense to use something that was already in production.

 

[WVsig]

Perhaps more people would have warmed to the pistol had it been introduced with a brand-new designation (223? 231?) instead of being called a 225, which for some reason folks just can't get past. I get the sentimental attachment to the old 225/P6. I'm afflicted with a fondness for the classic P-series pistols myself, in case no one knew.

It's a nice pistol that stands on its own merits, numerical model name aside.

They did the same thing with the M11 A1. There they even took it a step further and faked cage codes to give people the impression the US military adopted it when in reality they never did. They still ordered P228s.

 

[X62503]

When I carried a P226, I bought this P225 in 1995 for my wife and daughters to shoot. They love the gun because it is slim and not terribly heavy.

 

[Olympus]

When I carried a P226, I bought this P225 in 1995 for my wife and daughters to shoot. They love the gun because it is slim and not terribly heavy.

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Now THAT'S a P225! Not that A1 nonsense. I'm not sad to see the A1 discontinued because Sig missed the mark to begin. But I'm sure they don't care. They've got the P320 military contract plus they can make all kinds of variations to that platform for very little input cost and come out with a new flavor of the month for a long time. Polymer guns just seem to be where the money is at these days.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

They had not made those mags for something like 10 years when they brought back the 225A1. For them it made more sense to use something that was already in production.

Does the 225A1 mag fit something else? Not arguing, I don't know.

 

[WVsig]

Does the 225A1 mag fit something else? Not arguing, I don't know.

P239

This is my P225. The previous owner modified the hammer and it eventually developed hammer follow. I replaced the hammer with a hard chromed hammer which was all I could get at the time. Still one of my favorite Sigs.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Thanks. That makes a bit more sense to me now. 239 also gone from the line up it seems. Would have thought they would have kept one of them.
I was a big SIG fan but have moved away from them in recent years, or maybe they moved away from me, not sure which.

Thanks for the insight!

 

[Plan2Live]

Ohen Cepel asked: "Does the 225A1 mag fit something else? Not arguing, I don't know."

WVSig replied "P239"

I'm not certain about that. I've never had a 239 and 225 side by side but my 239's magazine baseplate was just a typical baseplate. My 225 A-1's magazine baseplate has "spacers" on either side because the 225 A-1's magwell is flared for easier reloading. Try before you buy.

 

[WVsig]

Ohen Cepel asked: "Does the 225A1 mag fit something else? Not arguing, I don't know."

WVSig replied "P239"

I'm not certain about that. I've never had a 239 and 225 side by side but my 239's magazine baseplate was just a typical baseplate. My 225 A-1's magazine baseplate has "spacers" on either side because the 225 A-1's magwell is flared for easier reloading. Try before you buy.

The tube is the same. The baseplate is different. P225 A1 mags work in the P239 but not the other way around because the baseplate.

P225 A1


P239