CraigC
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I use my RCBS turret for batch work. I don't put my powder measure in the turret head either. It has six stations so I put two sets of pistol dies in each head.
single stage or turret?
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dickttx
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Look here.
https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=190&Itemid=41
They make up their own kits and they contain everything you need to load a pistol caliber, except a scale, and not a lot of things you don't need. I am sure they would add a scale at a competitive price.
You would never be disappointed in the Lee Classic Turret. There are several differences between the Lee Deluxe Turrent and the Classic Turrent. The spent primer handling system on the LCT is "Classic" and the linkage, handle, etc. are steel instead of aluminum.
Probably the best value available in a press. You would also want to upgrade their kit with a Pro Auto Disk, instead of a regular Auto Disk.
I have never found it a problem to use the disk size nearest the powder charge I want. If it does become a problem then the Adjustable Charge Bar can be set very accurately unless you are trying to throw a very small charge. Then you have to get kind of innovative.
Good luck with your selection.
https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=190&Itemid=41
They make up their own kits and they contain everything you need to load a pistol caliber, except a scale, and not a lot of things you don't need. I am sure they would add a scale at a competitive price.
You would never be disappointed in the Lee Classic Turret. There are several differences between the Lee Deluxe Turrent and the Classic Turrent. The spent primer handling system on the LCT is "Classic" and the linkage, handle, etc. are steel instead of aluminum.
Probably the best value available in a press. You would also want to upgrade their kit with a Pro Auto Disk, instead of a regular Auto Disk.
I have never found it a problem to use the disk size nearest the powder charge I want. If it does become a problem then the Adjustable Charge Bar can be set very accurately unless you are trying to throw a very small charge. Then you have to get kind of innovative.
Good luck with your selection.
GunSlanger
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I love my Lee single stage press. Have used a single stage for about 15 years now.
I've got both the Lee turret and single stage set up side by side. Disconnected the linkage on the turret and rotate by hand...It may be strange but I use them together. The primer set up is better on the turret IMO. To trim this post down my resizing and seating is done on the single stage and other steps done on the turret. The procedures are subject to changes as my mood dictates.
Yes, you can prime on a Lee turret without buying anything extra. There's a little arm in front of the press where you put the primer. When the ram goes down, the arm swings up, putting the primer under the shell holder. As the ram bottoms out, the priming arm sticks up through a hole in the bottom of shellholder.
The press comes with two arms, one for small, one for large.
In fact, the Safety Prime which you are interested in purchasing is just a little bobbly-head Pez-dispenser thingie which you push down, and a primer dispenses into the cup on this same priming arm. Without the Safety Prime, you just insert the primer there by hand.
The Safety Prime is kinda fiddly. It's a tiny target, and there's a little bit of flex going on with the plastic parts. You have to press it consistently. But with all the other stuff you need to keep at hand when using a turret, it seems to be worth it just for the space savings of getting those primers off your bench.
The press comes with two arms, one for small, one for large.
In fact, the Safety Prime which you are interested in purchasing is just a little bobbly-head Pez-dispenser thingie which you push down, and a primer dispenses into the cup on this same priming arm. Without the Safety Prime, you just insert the primer there by hand.
The Safety Prime is kinda fiddly. It's a tiny target, and there's a little bit of flex going on with the plastic parts. You have to press it consistently. But with all the other stuff you need to keep at hand when using a turret, it seems to be worth it just for the space savings of getting those primers off your bench.
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theslasher
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Dropping powder into each case in the batch and putting them all in a loading block offers a great opportunity to SCREW UP also!! As long as case activated powder measure has powder in it it's going to work. No need to eyeball. The odds of the auto disk making a mistake are far less than you or I charging cases in batches using a load block! Go to www.ultimatereloader.com and watch that guy use the classic turret. And if u cant afford the extra $20 for the better press you should keep saving... A good press is a one time expense. It'll pay for itself in the first few hours of use!
jcwit
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I use a loading block, returned to it maybe 10 years ago, been reloading since the 1950's, as far as I'm concerned using a loading block and dbl. checking each case with a flashlight is one of the safest is not the safest method possible. JMUO
shooter1
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If I'm loading on the turret, I use auto index. When I take a cartridge out of the shell holder, it's a finished round. The main reason I bought the turret is to take advantage of the indexing feature to speed up the process of loading small batches. If I were using it as a single stage to batch load, I'd be just as well off with a challenger single stage with the quick change bushings, and might have saved a few bucks. The Safety Prime system works fine when properly installed and operated. Takes some getting used to, but it works. I have a few of the Pro Auto Disk powder measures, along with the double disk kits. It's as accurate a measure as my RCBS and Dillon measures with most powders. For those who can't bring themselves to trust a powder measure, there are dies that will go in that extra turret hole that will soothe your nerves, Dillon Low Powder Alarm Die, The RCBS Lockout Die, and the Powder Cop Die. I don't own any of those, but it's an extra measure of safety. To me the speed and convenience of the turret is the main advantage it has over the single stage. It's easy to load 200 RPH on this press, using the auto index. I've got two single stage RCBS presses under the bench, only time them come out is to swage primer pockets on military brass. I have a Dillon swage tool on order, guess that will put the single stage back under the bench for the foreseeable future.
Mohave-Tec
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Lee Classic 4-hole Turret Press is the single greatest value in the reloading business. But you are going to need the riser right out of the starting gate very most likely.
Also, you can get some very small differences with different disc in the auto measure.
Also, you can get some very small differences with different disc in the auto measure.
1911 guy
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Depends greatly on what you want to do with the press. For handgun or "range blaster" rifle ammo, a progressive or turret press rules the roost. However, if you're making cartridges for a very accurate rifle and want control over every stage of every round, you'll still be doing those on a single stage. I've got a progressive and two single stages in my basement.
CraigC
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There's nothing you can do on a single stage that you can't do on a turret.
shooter1
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I'm not a precision rifle guy. The .073"-1.122" groups I get with my three ARs using handloads assembled on the LCT or the Dillon 650 work well for my purposes. Accurate enough for three gun and defensive use. IMO the biggest factor in rifle accuracy is in case preparation and competent selection.
whughett
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