So I bought my first wheelgun... (long / pics)

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Cousin Mike

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...it's not a Taurus Tracker by any means, but this is definitely alright by me for my first revolver. It might be true that I am somewhat of an impulse spender when it comes to guns, but I think I got a good deal. I’ll let you good folks decide on that.

I went looking around today to see if I could score a cheap .357Magnum - just something to play with until I found exactly what I was looking for. Let's just say looking around here gave me the itch, and today was the day to scratch. I wanted to see if I could find an older, functional pistol for next to nothing. I called Gander Mountain and they just about laughed me off of the phone once they heard the price range I was looking at. Funny, later on, when I went by there to pick up a speedloader for my new gun, I noticed they had excellent prices on the higher-end guns, but every Taurus or Ruger revolver I saw was consistently overpriced by about $100.00

Anyways, this morning I’m on the phone, calling different retail stores, nobody has anything. I call pawn shops, they have nothing. What they do have is beyond overpriced. Some of these pistols should be made of solid gold with diamond studded grips for what these folks were asking. I make one last call – the gentleman says he might have what I’m looking for. Interesting…

I ask what he’s got. He says he’s got an “old Colt .38 special, from the 50’s or 60’s maybe,” and he would “be willing to get rid of it for what I’m asking.”

I ask to make sure I heard right, he verifies. I tell him I’ll be right there to give it a look. I get there, and sure enough, It’s old… but it’s in surprisingly good condition. I examine it, lock it up and WOW the lockup on this thing was tight. Didn’t give 1/16” either way. The cylinders line up perfectly, the trigger is crisp - and breaks like nothing I’ve ever experienced with an auto. I swear it feels like 1lb. of pressure will fire this thing on a SA pull, and DA it might be 4lbs.? This, of course, is my guess using the SWAG method, but it’s incredibly light and pleasant. The hammer and firing pin seem to be in top shape. I give the guy the amount I told him I was willing to pay on the phone, did my paperwork, and walked right out the door with my new (old) piece.


For $100.00 + tax… :D


So – Can anyone tell me about this thing?

It’s a Colt alright – it’s got the pony just above the grips on the left side, and once again with the word “Colt” above it in the medallions on both sides in the wood grips. The grips are in the worst shape of anything on the gun. I suspect they’re the originals. It’s got a 4” barrel and fixed sights, which are going to take a lot of getting used to for me. It seems they point extremely low – but then again I haven’t shot a revolver in 14 years. It’s a pretty blue, but the finish is worn on the end of the barrel and towards the back of the cylinder. I’m not sure if I want to do anything to it though until I find out more about it.

On the left side of the barrel, it says ‘Official Police .38 Special CTG.’
On the right side of the barrel, it says ‘Colt’s PT.FA.MFG.CO. Hartford, Conn USA’. The serial number is ‘8824XX’, and underneath the serial number there’s a ‘6‘. That’s every marking on the gun. How can I find out how old it is?

I cleaned her up, and she looks pretty! I plan on taking her to the range tomorrow to give her a try, and got a box of Winchester 125gr. +P JHP’s for tonight. I’ll get some practice ammo at the range tomorrow when I go, and fire off a couple of these defense rounds. I was thinking whatever I got today might go to the girlfriend when I pick up that .357 or .44 I’ve been pondering – but I might have to keep this one for myself. I can’t wait to shoot it. Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated, and you can expect a range report from me sometime within the next couple of days.

Sorry about these pictures, I just got home and I really could not wait to set up my digital camera, tripod, lights, etc., so I took these pictures with my phone. Considering that, I think they turned out pretty well. Here it is!


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nice! nothing like some good ol' nastalgia.....even the price is near what it was back then... you made out like a bandit.
 
Just looked up serial data...

...and found out this one was made in 1962. :D
Not that old, but substantially older than me.
Any harm in refinishing it?
 
if there is any collector value in it, refinishing it will ruin that. but if youre wanting it to be more of a utility gun that will be shot, carried and lugged around or stashed, then a nice brushed hard chrome finish would be in order.

if it will sit in the house as a house gun only with an occasional range trip for familiarity, id leave it be.
 
My understanding is, that frame size of that era can handle a good healthy diet of +P fodder.

I wouldn't get TOO crazy and run tons of Cor-Bon or Buffalo Bore +Ps (both of which are on the wild side) but a modest amount of even those ought to be fine.

The fixed sights are probably set up for 148 - 158gr loads. So the Remington 158gr lead hollowpoint +P should be "da bomb" in that thing, should do about 950fps. Old-stock Cor-Bon 158gr lead hollowpoints or the new Buffalo Bore version of the same load will do 100 - 150fps faster but...that's really not necessary.

If 158s aren't "on" in terms of elevation, go ahead and try the Speer Gold Dot 135gr+P. Sometimes you get one of these old puppies that likes lighter loads, although it's rare.
 
Don't quote me on this but I believe the model is generally refered to as the "Police Positive".
There is also a snub nose model called the "Detective Special".
 
Well I haven't found too much so far, but this is the 2nd site that has my serial # listed as a 1962, so I'll assume that's accurate. From what I'm reading at http://www.coltautos.com/default.asp - this would seem to be the Official Police model. They have the Police Positive listed, and it looks a smidget more fancy than what I picked up today. It's also a .32 with a 6" barrel. I'm still doing more research, although I saw a 1967 in similar condition and asking price was around $500.

I wonder if I could find the original grips anywhere...
 
If that thing shoots straight and doesn't fall apart in the next year or so, I think you got the best deal on a gun you will ever get.
 
Seriously...

I had to try hard to keep a straight face when I was buying it. I honestly would feel bad if the guy who sold it to me wasn't such a handgun know-it-all... A know it all who kept telling me I should take it home and soak it in WD-40 :rolleyes: It was obvious within 5 minutes this guy had no idea what the hell he was doing, and no one else in the store did either... I figured someone would think that maybe a Colt would be worth more than that, but I guess not. Everyone thought I was nuts for wanting to buy it at all. :evil:

I'll definitely be checking pawn shops on my cheap days from now on...
 
IIRC the Colt Official Police is built on the .41 frame (Original Trooper, Python). It is a size larger then the Police Positive Special/Detective Special although they appear at least from a picture identical. The OP also share the Python's lock work and let me be the first to say you STOLE that revolver.:D
 
If it says "Official Police" on it that's what it is, not a Police Positive Special, a similar, but smaller revolver. They were made until 1969 and from the late 1920s till 1950 or so were almost as common as the Smith M&P.
If it was my pistol I'd shoot mostly 158 grain lead standard pressure or 148 grain wad cutter ammo. When I started working in Center City Philadelphia in 1979 one of the traffic cops I saw everyday carried one. They were also standard with the NYC police at one time.

You did very well price wise, bought one a few weeks back for $225.
 
As has been said before, the Colt Official Police is built on a noticably larger frame than the Police Positive Special. (The Police Positive was yet a different frame.)

The Colt I-Frame was originally designed around the .41 Long Colt cartridge.
It is more than beefy enough for +P ammo. The original Official Police revolvers were advertised as being suitable for the Remington Hi-Speed .38/44cartridge, which was the high pressure ammo.
Even the smaller D-frame Dective Special and Police Positive Special was advertised as being able to digest the old .38/44 ammo.

The fixed sight I-Frame eventually metamorphized into the Colt Metropolitan (.38 Spl) and Lawman Mk III (.357 Mag). The Lawman is one of the best (if not the best) fixed sight .357 revolvers ever.

Colt added adjustable sights to the I-Frame and made it into the "Colt .357" which became known as the Trooper and eventually the I-Frame morphed into the Python.
 
What a beautiful gun! I saw one like that over a year ago when shopping for a .38 revolver and it was stickered at $499.99 in the glass case :barf: I would have paid more than half that but some people don't care to negotiate.
 
That looks SWEEEEET from here Cousin!

Nice Snag!

Let us know how she fares at the range!!!
 
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