Soldier with 12 gauge saves the day

[Bart Noir]

The Capt. Carter who saved the Iraqi woman, on the bridge while under fire, was featured in a big newspaper article on Sunday. It seems that at one point two Iraqi's (or whatevers) with an RPG got so close to his Bradley that he potted them with a shotgun. Interesting how much combat use the shotgun is getting.

Bart Noir
"All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the priming pan of your flintlock musket."

 

[Hutch]

I remember seeing the guy cut loose with two shots from the stretcher, but I had no context for it. I thought he might have simply been pissed off at something and let loose a couple. I wasn't even sure it was a shotgun, but the recoil was clearly not that of the current service rifles. Glad y'all cleared this all up. I am real surprised at the number of shotguns deployed there. Is it a given they're Benellis?

 

[moa]

I understand the reason for the presence of so many shotguns is for house-to-house urban fighting. They are used to breach locks on doors, etc.

The troops apparently have a unique armory and kit bag of special weapons and tools for urban combat.

Another technique for entering a building is have the Bradley AFV 25mm chain gun fire a circular pattern of explosive shells into a building's wall creating a separate entrance, thus bypassing booby-trapped and defended external doorways and windows.

 

[Phyphor]

charlie d

You need to visit www.divx.com and download the codec pack from there, you don't have the proper video codec.

(A codec is basically a kind of program that tells Windows Media Player how to play a given video format... Unfortunately, everyone and their dog thinks that their respective video format is 'the best,' so we're stuck with having to get codecs to support them all...) :banghead:

 

[Blain]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE!!!! I didn't think soldiers were allowed to take extra weapons, like shotguns and M14s from home? That is a main factor for many not wanting to show up! Heck, I wouldn't go unless I could bring my custom Vang Comp 12 gauge and/or my M14!!!!!!!


Somebody must have an answer for this!

 

[280PLUS]

yea, i saw that,,,

who says our men (and women) have no guts for a fight?

 

[Nightcrawler]

Is it a given they're Benellis?

Not by a long shot. The Marines have just recently adopted the Benelli M4 (XM1014), but previously the Mossberg 590A1 was standard. Before that, both Winchester 1200 and Remington 870 shotguns have been issued in military service. Before those, Ithaca 37s and Winchester 97s, and probably plenty others.

 

[larry_minn]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE!!!! I didn't think soldiers were allowed to take extra weapons, like shotguns and M14s from home? That is a main factor for many not wanting to show up! Heck, I wouldn't go unless I could bring my custom Vang Comp 12 gauge and/or my M14!!!!!!!


As I understand it you can NOT bring personal weapons unless you are VERY high on food chain. BUT there are specail weapons for use. Plus tons of weapons that are being found. IF I was in charge of supply unit I would put two AK-47s cleaned with loaded mag inserted and extra mags secured to outside of each truck. (in heavy sealed plastic) (heck they are destroying thousands of them) That way if attacked and driver/pass have to bail/weapons jam they can just grab a AK rip the plastic and chamber/fire.
I know a darn good officer in Tampa who will NOT use the AR series because he was issued one of the first M-16s and it jammed in humid weather. (simple problem to fix once you know cause) He grabbed a AK and used it for his tour.

 

[mod12]

army shotguns

my son just returned after 7 mos. in kuwait. army mos is armorer. i am emailing him at ft. knox to find out how many shotguns and incidence of issue there were.

 

[gburner]

'...I said, SHOTGUN...shoot 'em 'fore
they run son. Shoot 'em back baby!
Shoot 'em back now!'

'it is well that war is so horrible, we
would grow too fond of it.'

 

[Cosmoline]

I suspect American soldiers will keep using shotguns, officially or unofficially, long into the future. It reminds me of Hicks in Aliens, pulling out his ancient Ithaca 37 "stakeout" with the line "I like to keep this handy, for close encounters."

 

[spacemanspiff]

was this clip from early in the war? as in, the first week or so?
i recall seeing something similar, but didnt know he had hit his target, though i cant remember all the details. if its the same clip, there should also have been someone returning fire while standing next to a vehicle and a medic is trying to get him to sit down so he could field dress a wound on his leg. it was an intense scene.

 

[JShirley]

We have folding-stock 18" bl Mossbergs for squad leaders, here at Lewis. (They don't usually carry them, though.) The damn plastic stocks break really easily.

John

 

[AZLibertarian]

Am I the only guy who's still having problems getting the link to work? I keep getting...

The path to the file is not correct
Windows Media Player cannot find the file. The server name, shared directory name, or file name may be incorrect.

Check the file name and path for any misspellings or discrepancies. If this error message persists, contact your content provider for the correct location of the file you want to play.

Error ID = 0x80070002, Remedy ID = 0x00000000

Mostly technically challenged.

 

[hso]

Toronto Star excerpt -

"There was Pte. 2nd Class Christopher Nauman, with a bullet in his knee, shrapnel in both legs and an IV hanging out of his arm, being carted off on a litter, his gun still in his hands because the medics had nowhere to put it. "We'd gone under the bridge to get him," says Specialist Robert Crotty. "I remember, he was our third casualty of the fight. We didn't have anywhere to put his weapon so he said, here, I'll carry it."

That's when Nauman spotted one of the enemy combatants — who they all thought was dead — stir and reach for his Kalashnikov. "This f------ guy's still alive!" Nauman hollered.

"For a second, we thought he was surrendering," Crotty continued. "But hell no. He was going to shoot us. But Nauman got his weapon up first and — Bang! Got him. I mean, the guy's lying on a stretcher and he's still shooting! He saved our lives."

At the other end of the litter, Sgt. Mica Phelps didn't know what was going on. "I'm thinking, didn't we get all these guys? Why are they still shooting? But they just kept coming at us in waves. All I kept saying to myself was: We be dead, we be dead."
"

Just search Yahoo for Christopher Nauman and you'll get seveal links to articles to choose from. Pitty the video isn't available.

 

[ShaiVong]

Link wont work for me either