Spyderco Paramilitary 3...I'm excited!

[cdk8]

So I love the Paramilitary and the Paramilitary 2...I think they are some of the coolest folders made, and dig everything from the compression lock to the leaf-shaped clip point to the full flat grind to how well it grips in the hand to how Spyderco treats their S30V. But with a tall 3.5 inch blade and a very large handle (about 5 inches when closed), the form factor is a little too large to be my primary EDC.

So the PM3 is going to be smaller in terms of frame size, introducing a 3-inch blade and a 4.2 inch handle, which should give it a more compact form factor. At the same time, it will keep the core features that so many people love in the PM2. It sounds like the premier model is going to be the black G10 handle with a satin or black CPM-S30V blade (same base option as the PM2), with digicam handles to follow. Like the PM and PM2, it looks like the MSRP is going to be very reasonable, and that it is going to be a whole lot of knife for the money-money!

So, now I must know...

• Has anyone handled one yet and what are your impressions?
• Does anyone know what the latest news is with the launch schedule? (is it still early 2017?)
• Has anyone heard anything about sprint run steels/handles? (They have made the PM/PM2 in S35VN, M4, D2, ELMAX, CTS-XHP, M390, 20CV, 204P, S90V, CPM-154-S90V laminate, S110V, and more.) I'm a big fan of M390 and M4...give me a PM3 with a M390 blade and carbon fiber or titanium handles and I'll have a new EDC...

Paramilitary 3, black G10

Specs:
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP...nife-s30v-satin-plain-blade-black-g10-handles




Paramilitary 2, Digicam G10

Original Paramilitary, Foliage Green G10, CPM-D2 Sprint Run

(If you haven't guessed yet, I'm pretty excited about this.)

 

[CZ9shooter]

A week or two ago I read an article from KnifeNews.com stating that they would start shipping in December. Now, does that mean they will be available to the public at that time? I don't know.

I would suspect that they will be sold out left and right just like the PM2 was anyhow. Maybe some of the big online knife retailers have pre-order arrangements.

I don't really want one though. I really like my PM2s just the way they are.

 

[jmr40]

First I've heard of this, I'll be buying one when they are available.

 

[Yo Mama]

It's a big yawn from me here, but only because the existing Para2 is a good size for my preferences.

 

[boki_zca]

Para2 is good knife,just wish it had little longer blade,nothing else.otherwise its perfect.

 

[ugaarguy]

Cool knife, but after the way Spyderco treated me when I got a Para 2 that was defective out of the box I doubt I'll risk my money. I'd only buy it from somewhere like Amazon that will give me a prepaid return shipping label.

 

[JShirley]

I've considered a Para 2 in the past, but I'm so happy with my Manix 2 LW (with Manix 2 XL for heavy duty), that I don't really see the point.

I will have a Manix 2 LW in Maxamet this week, so I should be able to at least post some first impressions. (I now work in a facility where I can't carry any sharps, so pocket time is considerably reduced.)

John

 

[cdk8]

I've considered a Para 2 in the past, but I'm so happy with my Manix 2 LW (with Manix 2 XL for heavy duty), that I don't really see the point.

I will have a Manix 2 LW in Maxamet this week, so I should be able to at least post some first impressions. (I now work in a facility where I can't carry any sharps, so pocket time is considerably reduced.)

John

Please do. I'm really interested to hear more about Maxamet performance and sharpening. From the limited info I've read on it, I'm getting the impression that it will have insane edge holding capability.

 

[JShirley]

Please do. I'm really interested to hear more about Maxamet performance and sharpening. From the limited info I've read on it, I'm getting the impression that it will have insane edge holding capability.

Seems like it might be like a tougher HAP40.

 

[cdk8]

Seems like it might be like a tougher HAP40.

I've not used HAP40, but I've read good things. It sounds like HAP is an upgrade over Aogami Super, and I have some knives in Super Blue that I am already thrilled with because of how well they hold an edge and how easy they are to sharpen, so Maxamet sounds really exciting.

I've always found it cool how Spyderco brings some crazy steels to the market for such reasonable prices. I was perplexed by how they managed to make so many affordable folders in 110V because I've read it's not an easy steel to machine in the least bit.

 

[JShirley]

No idea when I'm getting it. Expected UPS delivery date seems to have changed from Fri to Mon to "it's complicated".

 

[ugaarguy]

I was perplexed by how they managed to make so many affordable folders in 110V because I've read it's not an easy steel to machine in the least bit.

What I've read is that S110V is actually much easier to machine than S90V, similar to S35VN being easier to machine than S30V. I'll have to dig around and see what I can find to confirm this.

 

[JShirley]

Would also explain why the Maxamet is so much more tha 110V.

 

[cdk8]

What I've read is that S110V is actually much easier to machine than S90V, similar to S35VN being easier to machine than S30V. I'll have to dig around and see what I can find to confirm this.

Huh...I must have my steels mixed. Maybe I am thinking of S125V or 10V as the one that is supposedly ridiculously hard to machine???
http://www.crucible.com/PDFs\DataSheets2010\Datasheet CPM S110Vv12010.pdf

Due to its carbide content and high annealed hardness, machining and grinding CPM S110V will be more difficult than 440C (or D2), and comparable to or slightly more difficult than CPM S90V. Grinding equipment and practices similar to those used for CPM S90V are acceptable. SG type alumina wheels or CBN wheels are recommended for best performance with CPM steels

 

[ugaarguy]

Huh...I must have my steels mixed. Maybe I am thinking of S125V or 10V as the one that is supposedly ridiculously hard to machine???
http://www.crucible.com/PDFs\DataSheets2010\Datasheet CPM S110Vv12010.pdf

Due to its carbide content and high annealed hardness, machining and grinding CPM S110V will be more difficult than 440C (or D2), and comparable to or slightly more difficult than CPM S90V. Grinding equipment and practices similar to those used for CPM S90V are acceptable. SG type alumina wheels or CBN wheels are recommended for best performance with CPM steels

Huh, clearly I'm the one who is confused. Thanks for finding the info. Now I'm trying to figure out which other super steel I was thinking of that isn't so bad to machine.

 

[cdk8]

Huh, clearly I'm the one who is confused. Thanks for finding the info. Now I'm trying to figure out which other super steel I was thinking of that isn't so bad to machine.

Well I'm off too since it says machining is roughly the same. I think I mixed up 125V with 110V, as 125V appears to be the one that is insanely hard to work with.

Maybe you are thinking of M390 or K294?

 

[CopperFouling]

Well I'm off too since it says machining is roughly the same. I think I mixed up 125V with 110V, as 125V appears to be the one that is insanely hard to work with.

Maybe you are thinking of M390 or K294?

From what I've read on bladeforums.com, 125V is really difficult to work with.