Staging the trigger on an M&P

[Ric]

I was reading a gun mag the other day (I know, I know) and they had an article on the M&P and said that the owners manual recommends not staging the trigger because of some AD's when you release the trigger without firing. Does anybody have any exp. with this? Does the manual say that?

I carry TDA and DAO and stage the trigger for accurate shots at times. The Sig Academy teaches staging the trigger (Mr. Gray)

Is the M&P drop safe if it can fire without the trigger being pulled through the draw stroke? I thought that was what a firing pin/striker block is for.

I was thinking about an M&P but maybe I'll look at the XD again.

 

[DomMega]

I like both so you won't get an argument out of me.

 

[Coronach]

Both are good guns. I've never heard of an M&P ADing from staging the trigger.

Mike

 

[average_shooter]

See the owners manual (PDF) here:

http://stevespages.com/pdf/s&w_m&p_pistols.pdf

Bottom of Page 18 has a warning against "staging" the trigger, though it may be just a CYA warning.

Hope this helps...

Edited: Sorry, just read the top of Page 19. They do specifically state that an unintentional discharge is possible with a "staged" trigger.

 

[Chris Rhines]

Staging the trigger means that you pull through the first stage, then hold at the second stage. There is no possible way that this can cause the gun to fire. It is mechanically impossible.

What can happen, is that if you walk around holding the gun with the trigger staged, and trip, or get startled, you can accidentally squeeze off a round. This kind of thing is to be avoided.

I stage the trigger of my M&P every time I draw it in competition. I have yet to have an ND or a mechanical failure of the trigger.

- Chris

 

[nwilliams]

I stage the trigger of my M&P every time I draw it in competition. I have yet to have an ND or a mechanical failure of the trigger.

Ditto

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Originally posted by Ric:
Is the M&P drop safe if it can fire without the trigger being pulled through the draw stroke? I thought that was what a firing pin/striker block is for.

It can't fire without the trigger being pulled through the complete stroke.

Originally posted by Chris Rhines:
Staging the trigger means that you pull through the first stage, then hold at the second stage. There is no possible way that this can cause the gun to fire. It is mechanically impossible.

Agreed. What can happen is that under excitement or stress you can apply too much pressure to the trigger when held "staged" and fire the shot prematurely. This is not a gun defect.

The MP's trigger, with a short light takeup and heavier but fairly crisp "break", is easier to "prep" or "stage" than the Glock, with the heavier takeup and somewhat "mushy" break, or the XD, with its very long takeup and light break. (I own a Glock - and have owned two others - and a MP, and have shot an XD.)

 

[Browns Fan]

If you dry fire enough you should be familiar with how far you can stage the trigger before it breaks.

 

[Coronach]

I suspect quite strongly that the "ADs" from staging are actually NDs- in other words, it is not a mechanical defect, but an operator error.

Mike