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AlexanderA said:
You are looking at this optimistically. I hope you are right, but the truth is that gun owners are a diminishing minority. Especially activist gun owners.
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Really?

You know from 1775 to 1783, the British thought they were going to win until they lost. The patriots who became activists for their cause were not activists until 1775. Most actually just wanted to be treated as equal British subjects under the royal rule but taxation without representation and stuff happened and they came together to fight a common enemy. You think many colonists thought that's what they would do just a few years prior? Heck no.



And in 2016, everyone thought Trump was going to lose until he won.



And historic record breaking number of guns in biblical proportions have been sold the past 10 years. The new gun rights activists will be these new gun owners who bought millions of guns in recent years because they wanted/needed to defend their lives and lives of their families.



And their fear is likely hitting panic level with anti-gun law makers' talk of gun confiscation/ban. You think many of them are motivated to vote and send money to protect their concerns/lives? You bet. Gun owners from all walks of life now have a common enemy. I believe and hope, just like the patriots of 1776, they will come together to fight the common enemy and win.



And now the anti-gun law makers think they can confiscate/ban guns ...

This is a gun forum. Stop wasting bandwidth and peddle your propaganda on another forum where that matters.

Are you for gun rights or not?

Answer me. And if you are, help our cause and start posting like you support gun rights/2A.
 
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AlexanderA said:
Of course I am. I don't have my head buried in the sand, though. I see what's going on around me, here in Virginia, and it doesn't look good.
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That is interesting comment.

In another thread you argued with me and stated that the Democrat candidates for President are lying about wanting to pass strict gun control laws and banning of firearms.

You have also strongly commented about how you do not support the NRA.

Now that the chicken has come home to roost with your party being in control of the State government you seem to be shifting your position about them passing strict gun control laws.
 
Jammersix said:
You've convinced me that our cause is doomed.
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What cause is your cause? From your postings so far I have assumed you are anti gun.

That said, all the chicken little types drive me nuts, we have made great progress for the most part on gun rights. Is the battle over? No, it will never be over. Eternal vigilance my friends, and don't fall for the "it's no use we can't win" BS.
 
BSA1 said:
In another thread you argued with me and stated that the Democrat candidates for President are lying about wanting to pass strict gun control laws and banning of firearms.
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I initially believed that none of the Democratic candidates, except Swalwell, actually wanted to confiscate guns. That was based on their official statements, and also on political reality. A Democratic nominee cannot advocate gun confiscation and at the same time hope to win the swing states of the Rust Belt and Sun Belt.

O'Rourke's change of position after the El Paso massacre was an eye-opener. Not so much about O'Rourke's personal chances, because that clearly was a desperation move, but about his assessment that it would appeal to the Democratic base. If rank and file Democrats really want Australian-style confiscation, that's a very bad sign for us. Still, though, Kamala Harris continues to harp on silly themes like banning imports of "assault weapons" (as if any are actually imported). That's a good sign for us.
BSA1 said:
You have also strongly commented about how you do not support the NRA.
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I don't support the current leadership of the NRA. Wayne LaPierre has to go in order that the organization can become more effective. As a Life Member, I think I'm entitled to that opinion.
 
My good people and fellow patriots, wake up and smell the coffee.

Listen to Obama's words in the following video very carefully because what he DENIED over and over that Democrats ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY have COME TRUE. And listen to his other words that are luminous as to what the anti-gun law makers are trying to do.

Do not listen to the crafty/clever arguments of those who are trying to distract your focus away from the real issue. It's simple. There are those who SUPPORT gun rights and the Second Amendment and these people want you to keep your guns. And then there are those who DON'T SUPPORT gun rights and the Second Amendment and these people want to "eventually" take your guns away. If they don't support gun rights/2A at the core of their belief, nothing that comes out of their mouth really matters as they are simply crafty/clever words of distraction.

Why restrict "good" gun owners, resident asks President Obama at town hall



Ben Shapiro fires back at late-night hosts on gun control - Common sense gun control won't stop mass shootings.



Ice T's gun comment leaves Michael Moore cold - Ice T speaks the truth about the Second Amendment



Why new gun control laws just won't work ... and what will - Gun laws don't get to the root of the problem. Banning guns will not stop the violence by people who are violence prone



So, getting back to the OP, prices are lowest in decades and items are in stock. NOW is a great time to STOCK UP on all the things you WANT and NEED. ;):D

BUY BUY BUY while you can. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

And BTW, there's a thread full of postings that "correct" misinformation being propagated by the anti-gun/2A people out in the open or trying to deceive people while acting like gun owners and gun forum members - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...of-firearms-related-information.849620/page-6
 
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LiveLife said:
NOW is a great time to STOCK UP on all the things you WANT and NEED. ;):D

BUY BUY BUY while you can.
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By counseling people to stock up (to buy more than their immediate needs), you are tacitly admitting that some form of further restrictions (perhaps less than outright confiscation) is coming.

Wow. That means that you are just as "defeatist" as I am !
 
AlexanderA said:
By counseling people to stock up (to buy more than their immediate needs), you are tacitly admitting that some form of further restrictions (perhaps less than outright confiscation) is coming.

Wow. That means that you are just as "defeatist" as I am !
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I'd say the person who really needs to stock up is the anti-gunner type who just happens to meet the profile of the gun owner: maybe rural, Southern, physically fit, known to buy fishing gear, owns a pickup truck. When they set aside the fourth and fifth Amendments as well, he can't expect the officers who come for his guns to believe that he indeed did vote for Liberal Democrats. If his dreams come true, part of that dream will involve being thrown in jail for failing to have the foresight to pick up a few cheap guns to turn in.

After all, he's not going to want every one of us rednecks to skate over an obvious lie like we lost them, gave them away, or sold them, or expect the fine young officers to take the time to find where we buried them.
 
AlexanderA said:
By counseling people to stock up (to buy more than their immediate needs), you are tacitly admitting that some form of further restrictions (perhaps less than outright confiscation) is coming.
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Nice try but you are wrong as I am an "optimist".

I started "Where are there reloading components on sale" support thread in the Handloading & Reloading category during the last "Great Component Shortage" to help THR members find reloading components in stock and have been chanting the mantra to "stock up" when things go on sale or during annual "Black Friday" sales - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...omponents-on-sale.707473/page-17#post-8885202

It's simple rule of economy. Buy when things go on sale. And compare to last several decades of inflation and price increase, price of guns and gun related items have actually gone down, even after factoring for inflation.

Many THR members who have followed my posts since 2010 know my true intentions. But over the years, and more recently, your intentions seem to show a questionable agenda. You already disclosed you won't vote in 2020 but haven't answered my ongoing question of what have you done to support gun rights and the Second Amendment.

What I see you doing instead is arguing for the anti-gun side.

So tell us, what are you doing to support gun rights/2A instead of irritating THR members?

And in case you forgot, this is a GUN FORUM where we care about gun rights/2A. Go spread your anti-gun propaganda on another forum that cares.
 
LiveLife said:
My good people and fellow patriots, wake up and smell the coffee.

Listen to Obama's words in the following video very carefully because what he DENIED over and over that Democrats ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY have COME TRUE. And listen to his other words that are luminous as to what the anti-gun law makers are trying to do.

Do not listen to the crafty/clever arguments of those who are trying to distract your focus away from the real issue. It's simple. There are those who SUPPORT gun rights and the Second Amendment and these people want you to keep your guns. And then there are those who DON'T SUPPORT gun rights and the Second Amendment and these people want to "eventually" taken your guns away. If they don't support gun rights/2A at the core of their belief, nothing that comes out of their mouth really matters as they are simply crafty/clever words of distraction.

Why restrict "good" gun owners, resident asks President Obama at town hall



Ben Shapiro fires back at late-night hosts on gun control - Common sense gun control won't stop mass shootings.



Ice T's gun comment leaves Michael Moore cold - Ice T speaks the truth about the Second Amendment



Why new gun control laws just won't work ... and what will - Gun laws don't get to the root of the problem. Banning guns will not stop the violence by people who are violence prone



So, getting back to the OP, prices are lowest in decades and items are in stock. NOW is a great time to STOCK UP on all the things you WANT and NEED. ;):D

BUY BUY BUY while you can. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

And BTW, there's a thread full of postings that "correct" misinformation being propagated by the anti-gun/2A people out in the open or trying to deceive people while acting like gun owners and gun forum members - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...of-firearms-related-information.849620/page-6
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Can I borrow some money?
 
I still have cases worth on hand and have shot consistently through the panic. I stock a continual rotation of 3 cases of each caliber on hand and 5 of my favorites (.22 WMR, 9mm, and 5.56mm)
 
LiveLife said:
Go spread your anti-gun propaganda on another forum that cares.
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Nothing I've written is "antigun propaganda." I have a lot invested in my guns. I would be hurt very badly if the antigunners won.

I am trying to find a way to keep what I have. If you and others like you persist in stonewalling, we will all lose everything. As the wise Italian Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa said, “If we want things to stay as they are, things will have to change.”
 
AlexanderA said:
By counseling people to stock up (to buy more than their immediate needs), you are tacitly admitting that some form of further restrictions (perhaps less than outright confiscation) is coming
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He said it clearly, prices are low so it is time to stock up within your budget. I said the same thing earlier
AlexanderA said:
Wow. That means that you are just as "defeatist" as I am !
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That doesn't, but you have had some posts where it sounds like you are giving up without a fight. If it's truly your honest opinion, there's nothing wrong with that, but you may get dissenting opinions.
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AlexanderA said:
If you and others like you persist in stonewalling, we will all lose everything
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No.

Having lived in CA for past 40 years, we HAVE tried the "common sense, reasonable and sensible" gun control thing over the decades. Well, after a mountain of anti-gun laws passed that directly impeded on our gun rights, IT IS NOT ENOUGH for the antis and now they want to take guns away with the direct threat of confiscation and ban.

The antis are the ones who have been unreasonable and insensible. In addition to arbitrary "assault weapon and assault rifle" terms, they now add "weapons of war" and "military style firearm" to expand the slippery slope of additional guns they can ban.

Guess what?

22LR pistols/rifles, revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action carbines, shotguns and semi-auto pistols/rifles all have been used as "weapons of war" and in essence "military style"! Yes, wars were fought with all of these firearms. So with that declaration, the antis effectively want ALL GUNS banned.

So just like the colonists, it's time to say no as the antis have already declared WAR. The time for diplomacy is over and various gun control laws and AW bans have not worked to stop mass shootings. Thankfully, president Trump has appointed numerous federal judges and SCOTUS justices to tilt the courts towards pro-gun/2A and another election win in 2020 (which I am betting Trump will win again) will secure the judicial future to protect and preserve gun rights/2A for decades and generations - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

And new gun owners who had to buy those millions of guns the past 10 years to protect themselves and their families (I thought the government banned crime long ago? :eek:) are going to vote for Trump if they want to secure the gun right/2A future for their children and their grandchildren because every one of Democrat candidates has called for more gun control laws and outright confiscation and ban. So the antis have tied our hands. We have no choice but to respond to the declaration of WAR with everything we got - No more compromise (We fought "limited war" in Vietnam and look what it got us. ;)).

And together, the old gun owners like me and new gun owners like the younger Millennial/Generation Z along with lifetime Democrat, minority, liberal, feminist, MGTOW and LGBTQ, etc. who bought guns the past 10 years will come together to secure gun rights by voting in pro-gun/2A law makers. I have worked 24 years in state government service and have seen this trend right before my eyes and more people I have "actually" talked to have bought guns for self protection and have changed their perspectives of gun rights and the Second Amendment.

You don't believe me?

That's OK, time will tell. We'll see the results in 2020.

So once again, it's time to fish or cut bait. You posted you can't vote for Trump. Well, that shows you are not willing to vote in just one election during your lifetime of voting to support your gun rights/2A when many Democrats/liberals/feminists/LGBTQ and even "green" progressives I helped train over the decades defensive shooting have let me know they voted for Trump in 2016 for "their" gun rights to defend themselves.

And you won't support NRA for "many excuses" ... Well, whether we agree with NRA leadership or not, "Enemy of my enemy is my friend." And there are many other pro-gun/2A organizations you can support. Are you supporting any of them?

This thread encourages gun owners to spend money "stocking up" guns and gun related items which directly supports gun and gun related industry which many donate to PAC and pro-gun/2A law makers and pro-gun/2A organizations.

If you are not going to support gun rights/2A, stop wasting our time.
 
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LiveLife said:
So once again, it's time to fish or cut bait. You posted you can't vote for Trump. Well, that shows you are not willing to vote in just one election during your lifetime of voting to support your gun rights/2A when many Democrats/liberals/feminists/LGBTQ and even "green" progressives I helped train over the decades defensive shooting have let me know they voted for Trump in 2016 for "their" gun rights to defend themselves.
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You're from California. What good are all those pro-2A, pro-Trump votes there when the result is a foregone conclusion? Virginia is the same way.

Maybe we should consider a national popular vote for president, so all those millions of pro-2A votes won't be wasted.
 
AlexanderA said:
Maybe we should consider a national popular vote for president
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Heck no. Once again, why are you sounding like anti-gun? Stop supporting the antis!

Popular Vote = Democracy where the WILL of the majority CAN be imposed on the RIGHTS of the minority.

Electoral College = Constitutional Republic where the WILL of the majority CANNOT BE imposed on the RIGHTS of the minority.
 
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