cdpII
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has anyone shot the stoeger cougar yet?
stoeger cougar
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ftierson
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I haven't shot one, but I've handled a couple of them (9x19mmP ones) in the store.
I was originally thinking of buying one, since there have been a couple of magazine write-ups claiming that the Stoeger Cougars (made in Turkey) are every bit as nice as the original Beretta guns (and I have a Beretta Cougar), for much less money.
Although I think that the Stoeger Cougars are a good buy, they are not quite up to the Beretta standard in quality of workmanship.
However, having said that, they are certainly worth the relatively small amount of money that is being asked for them...
I passed on picking up the two that I looked at (one had the inclined flats on the front of the slide a little rounded at the front (where it wasn't supposed to be rounded) and the other had some tearing in the metal surface of the slide on the rounded part near the rear sight from the machining process. These were both relatively minor flaws, but enough for me to pass on the guns.
I may still end up picking one up eventually...
The Cougars are about the best feeling guns in the hand that I know of, just slightly less wonderful than the Steyr M-A1, but still close...
Forrest
I was originally thinking of buying one, since there have been a couple of magazine write-ups claiming that the Stoeger Cougars (made in Turkey) are every bit as nice as the original Beretta guns (and I have a Beretta Cougar), for much less money.
Although I think that the Stoeger Cougars are a good buy, they are not quite up to the Beretta standard in quality of workmanship.
However, having said that, they are certainly worth the relatively small amount of money that is being asked for them...
I passed on picking up the two that I looked at (one had the inclined flats on the front of the slide a little rounded at the front (where it wasn't supposed to be rounded) and the other had some tearing in the metal surface of the slide on the rounded part near the rear sight from the machining process. These were both relatively minor flaws, but enough for me to pass on the guns.
I may still end up picking one up eventually...
The Cougars are about the best feeling guns in the hand that I know of, just slightly less wonderful than the Steyr M-A1, but still close...
Forrest
Bought one yesterday. Had a hell of a time finding one....try looking online at the different gun sales sites (ie gunbroker, budsgunshop etc) and you'll see what I mean. Finally found one in a backwoods gun shop.
I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I find myself comparing it to my CZ-75b, the finish isn't quite as nice as the CZ but the feel is great. Some VERY light tooling marks inside the slide but nothing like the marks all over the inside of the CZ. Slide is REAL smooth and for a pistol that has yet to be fired, the trigger feels outstanding. No trigger creep at all like you find on the CZ's.
It has great balance and fits my hands perfectly. If it shoots as well as the hype built up.....I'll be sneaking back to the backwoods gunshop to buy some more.
Jerry
I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I find myself comparing it to my CZ-75b, the finish isn't quite as nice as the CZ but the feel is great. Some VERY light tooling marks inside the slide but nothing like the marks all over the inside of the CZ. Slide is REAL smooth and for a pistol that has yet to be fired, the trigger feels outstanding. No trigger creep at all like you find on the CZ's.
It has great balance and fits my hands perfectly. If it shoots as well as the hype built up.....I'll be sneaking back to the backwoods gunshop to buy some more.
Jerry
usp9
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ajoker31,
I've been hunting for one too. If you don't mind sharing ...what did it cost?
I've been hunting for one too. If you don't mind sharing ...what did it cost?
ftierson
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The Sportsman's Warehouse in Colorado Springs has them for $329.99...
The suggested retail is now $370, although it was only $350 until a few weeks ago...
Specialty Sports in Colorado Springs had them for $399.99 when the suggested retail was $350, but I don't know what they are there now...
For what it's all worth...
Forrest
The suggested retail is now $370, although it was only $350 until a few weeks ago...
Specialty Sports in Colorado Springs had them for $399.99 when the suggested retail was $350, but I don't know what they are there now...
For what it's all worth...
Forrest
I paid $359 plus tax. After searching for a while I spoke to a dealer that said the Stoeger Cougar was on massive back order and they didn't expect to see more this year. I've also heard that they will be filling military contracts prior to relieving the back order (but that could VERY well be a load of crap).
With the lack of product and considering the quality (even though it's made in Turkey) I really just wanted to pick one up instead of wait.....and risk maybe having to pay $500 later.
Jerry
With the lack of product and considering the quality (even though it's made in Turkey) I really just wanted to pick one up instead of wait.....and risk maybe having to pay $500 later.
Jerry
possum
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i have been wondering about them as well, and since i am so far away from a real gun shop and can't fondel one i will have to take you guys word for it, i saw and read about them in a gun rag sent to me and it looked and shot pretty good, and they are an awesom value, so i might have to check one out on rxr! btw thanks for sharing guys.
wolfe28
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Thanks a bunch.
I saw one for the first time this past Monday. It looked like a great gun, and since I'm one of those 9mm deprived sods, the $350 price tag looks pretty good. Thanks again for the imput. I'll probably pick it up in a week or two.
D
I saw one for the first time this past Monday. It looked like a great gun, and since I'm one of those 9mm deprived sods, the $350 price tag looks pretty good. Thanks again for the imput. I'll probably pick it up in a week or two.
D
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im really looking for one myself and $350 works for me, i cant find one anywhere around me in cincinnati and im having a hard time finding them online also. Can anyone direct me to an online shop selling them. thanks
Kymasabe
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I've owned both the .40cal and the 9mm and found both guns to be reliable and very accurate. I'm not a .40cal fan but the Stoeger Cougar is very managable, light recoil. The 9mm is great, super easy gun to shoot, excellent ergo's. Buy one if you find one, you won't be sorry.
Alphazulu6
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Everything Berreta has been pushing from their factories as of late has been garbage quality. I bought a brand new Brigadier Elite and it is trash. The sights are so far off the mark its impossible to sight in, the bluing is peeling from anywhere that the weapon has a crease or even thinks about rubbing, and the Berreta Rep I took it too looked at me with a blank face and did nothing to help. HAHA I'm done with Berreta. Good luck!
ftierson
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As far as I know, except for the original prototypes of the Beretta Brigadier Elites, all of the production has been in Accokeek, MD, USA.
The Beretta Cougar was made in Italy.
The recent Beretta PX4 that I purchased was made in Italy, and it's beautifully made...
As an American, it pains me to say that the conclusion that I reach from this (and also from observing many American made 92s and Italian made 92s) is that Beretta's American made quality control suffers considerably compared to Beretta's Italian made quality control.
But that's a problem that's not unique to Beretta.
Forrest
The Beretta Cougar was made in Italy.
The recent Beretta PX4 that I purchased was made in Italy, and it's beautifully made...
As an American, it pains me to say that the conclusion that I reach from this (and also from observing many American made 92s and Italian made 92s) is that Beretta's American made quality control suffers considerably compared to Beretta's Italian made quality control.
But that's a problem that's not unique to Beretta.
Forrest
( If you like the Cougar in .40 you'll love the PX4 Storm)
At first I was looking to buy PX4 or a Steyr m1 until my wife decided she needed a gun so the $600 had to be split. She got a Bersa Thunder .380 which I love to shoot and I bought the PT140 PRO.
After 50 rounds and having to hold the mag in for ever shot I traded it for the Cougar 9mm. I still want a .40 but will save up for one.
At first I was looking to buy PX4 or a Steyr m1 until my wife decided she needed a gun so the $600 had to be split. She got a Bersa Thunder .380 which I love to shoot and I bought the PT140 PRO.
After 50 rounds and having to hold the mag in for ever shot I traded it for the Cougar 9mm. I still want a .40 but will save up for one.
Anvil,
I made almost the same choices you did for the same reason. Sold the
.380 (great shooter but the ammo is expensive and I prefer the wife shoot at least a 9mm so I bought the wife a 24/7 pro). The trigger spring on the .380 also kept popping loose which kinda gave me that not so fuzzy feeling.
Sold the PT-145 and bought the Stoeger Cougar, sold the Stoeger and bought the PX4 in .40. Just kinda moving my way up the food chain as I can afford it. I really like the PX4 though....really shoots soft....can't imagine getting rid of it.
I'd like to sell the wifes 24/7 pro and get her something else but she likes it too much.....
Joker
I made almost the same choices you did for the same reason. Sold the
.380 (great shooter but the ammo is expensive and I prefer the wife shoot at least a 9mm so I bought the wife a 24/7 pro). The trigger spring on the .380 also kept popping loose which kinda gave me that not so fuzzy feeling.
Sold the PT-145 and bought the Stoeger Cougar, sold the Stoeger and bought the PX4 in .40. Just kinda moving my way up the food chain as I can afford it. I really like the PX4 though....really shoots soft....can't imagine getting rid of it.
I'd like to sell the wifes 24/7 pro and get her something else but she likes it too much.....
Joker
gaowlpoop
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I looked for one in 9MM for about 2 months before I found one at a gun store about 40 miles away. As soon as I picked it up, I knew it felt "right". I bought it on the spot. I have been pleased with it as a carry weapon and as just something fun to shoot.
FieroCDSP
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Not to revive a thread, but I just bought one today at $329.00. I'm hoping to take it out tomorrow. Anyone have a detailed diagram on this thing? It seems pretty simply to put back together, but I got pulled away in the middle of the detail cleaning and I could use the reference.
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