Stupidest idea for gun control yet

[SharpDog]

I thought smart guns were bad until I heard about requiring the non-existent bullet micro-stamping. But attempting to make ammunition so much less effective it won't kill could be the dumbest idea yet.

New York Times: Next Front for Gun Control Fight Is Smaller Bullets:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ont-for-gun-control-fight-is-smaller-bullets/

As a side benefit, I guess they solved the stopping power argument ... SMH

 

[Heir Kommt Die Sonne]

Umm, the AR-15, supposedly the 'biggest mass killer tool' in history, uses a .22 caliber bullet... fail to see how this'll solve anything, even with their logic

 

[ontarget]

Umm, the AR-15, supposedly the 'biggest mass killer tool' in history, uses a .22 caliber bullet... fail to see how this'll solve anything, even with their logic

Did you say "their logic"? Now I'm totally confused. Antis and logic don't belong in the same sentence.

 

[Tommygunn]

Umm, the AR-15, supposedly the 'biggest mass killer tool' in history, uses a .22 caliber bullet... fail to see how this'll solve anything, even with their logic

Logic? The antigunners use logic?


He'd be surprised ....

 

[LRDGCO]

Already under discussion in another thread.

 

[Demi-human]

Perhaps this one can stay open if we stay on the idea, rather than the vector of the idea.

To wit, I have never thought of a Thirty Two as less deadly than a Nine Millimeter. Statistics be damned.

 

[LRDGCO]

The problem is that no discussion of the idea can be held that does not immediately revert to the vector. There is no merit in the idea. It's goal is not edification.The goal is to build a case for further restrictions on firearms ownership based on an absurd and faulty premise.

 

[H&R Glock]

The best preventive law that would stop crime is a 25 year mandatory sentence for anyone committing a crime with a firearm.
Any comments? Maybe we oughta' suggest this to our Democratic friends in the legislature.

 

[jmorris]

Umm, the AR-15, supposedly the 'biggest mass killer tool' in history, uses a .22 caliber bullet... fail to see how this'll solve anything, even with their logic

No, they are completely safe now that our President made some plastic stocks illegal, problem solved....

 

[CapnMac]

he problem is that no discussion of the idea can be held that does not immediately revert to the vector.

This is probably the nut of it.
Given that "gun control" is inherently "stupid"--arguing how much is pretty pointless.
Much is the same way that making more thing illegal does not reduce "crime"--it only makes more "criminals."
Which flows from the flawed concept of law=behavior control.

 

[GAF]

I find the whole idea of legislating smaller bullets to be funny. almost hysterically funny. I guess they have never heard of shot placement which the article never mentioned. The next law will be that everyone has to be a poor shot. .Even a.177 pellet can be deadly.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC500806/

 

[Ed4032]

Logic is never the issue. It’s about control. It’s about how much better they are to decide what is best for you.

 

[Deanimator]

You don't have to be stupid or dishonest to support racially invidious gun controls... oh, who am I kidding?

You really DO have to be stupid or dishonest to support racially invidious gun controls.

 

[Drail]

I would like to see their response when shown a .22 cal. bullet from an AR 15 military assault weapon. You know, the horrible rifle that they claim ALL the mass shooters like to use?

 

[jonnyc]

I personally was shocked to learn that the .45ACP round only became popular in the 1990s! Quelle surprise!!!

 

[theotherwaldo]

-So where does the 5.7mm "cop-killer" round fit in?

 

[Labguy47]

I personally was shocked to learn that the .45ACP round only became popular in the 1990s! Quelle surprise!!!

It’s been around a long time, used in WW II, Korea, and Vietnam. It wasn’t until the automatic ban of ‘68 and the banning of Tommyguns that people realized what they where missing. An iconic piece of history made popular by the Valentine’s Day massacre during prohibition.

 

[Labguy47]

-So where does the 5.7mm "cop-killer" round fit in?

Right beside the .38 and .44 donut cutter rounds, with honorable mention to the .500

 

[Tom609]

At least they didn’t mention the dum dum bullet.

 

[Deanimator]

At least they didn’t mention the dum dum bullet.

Somebody in India ought to open a commercial ammunition plant and call it "Dum Dum Arsenal".

They should sell .38 Special, .44 Special, .45 Auto Rim, and .45 Colt self-defense ammunition loaded with dead soft lead bullets with a huge hollow point.

They'd probably clean up.

 

[Zerodefect]

These are the same people that want to put a catalytic converter on a dairy cow?

 

[Myers431]

The best preventive law that would stop crime is a 25 year mandatory sentence for anyone committing a crime with a firearm.
Any comments? Maybe we oughta' suggest this to our Democratic friends in the legislature.

25 year minimum for not locking up your firearm inside your locked house? Dangerous principal when they might be the ones deciding what “crimes” you’ve committed.
This idea continues to demonize firearms. If my firearm is not evil why is the sentencing longer? A firearm is a tool, the perpetrator is the criminal.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I personally was shocked to learn that the .45ACP round only became popular in the 1990s! Quelle surprise!!!

I suppose you could say .45 ACP became more popular with civilians in the ‘90s. The AWB limited mags to 10 rounds so the 7-8 round mags of 1911s became less of a disadvantage in capacity. Plus, if one is limited to a certain number of rounds, one might as well choose larger rounds.

 

[Spats McGee]

I read the title to this thread and figured someone, somewhere had said, "Hold my gluten-free soybeer."

 

[Spats McGee]

I'm a little bit amused by the underlying article from the NYT (which can be found here). In particular, the following three paragraphs:

Over recent decades, the size of bullets fired by the typical handgun has increased. Changes in design have made it easier to fire big bullets from concealable weapons, and manufacturers have marketed more powerful guns as better tools for self-defense. In the 1970s and 1980s, the guns most commonly used in crime tended to be revolvers or small, inexpensive pistols that fired .22-caliber rounds, so-called for their 0.22-inch diameter.

But regulations meant to reduce crimes committed with these cheap, disposable guns, sometimes called “Saturday night specials,” pushed them out of gun stores. And advances in gun technology caused a new generation of weapons to hit the market — and eventually the streets. The newer guns, which started to become common in the 1990s, were semi-automatic. They could fire multiple rounds more quickly, and tended to be able to store more bullets in their magazines, meaning they required less reloading in long shootouts.

And instead of buying guns that fired smaller bullets, people started purchasing ones that fired rounds that were 9 millimeters wide, about 0.35 inches, then 0.40 and 0.45 inches.

Let me make sure I understand the complaint . . . . Gun control advocates pushed for banning the "Saturday Night Special," a cheap, small-caliber pistol common in crimes of the 1970s. They got a whole bunch of regulations put in place to cover them. Gun makers complied with the regulations and the result was better-built, larger caliber pistols . . . . And now the Antis are unhappy about that.

Some days, I truly adore the Law of Unintended Consequences.