Taiwanese Tasco "World Class"

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I recently glommed a Swiss K31 which came with a Tasco "World Class" 6-24 x 40 scope made in Taiwan. I know that the later Chinese Tasco scopes are not well thought of but the Japanese made Tasco's are supposed to be OK.

Anyone know anything about the Taiwanese Tasco's?
 
I had one and the glass was terrible. Got it with a rifle. Still have the rifle and couldn’t give the scope away.
 
When I was a kid made in Japan was cheap junk, then they got good at manufacturing, after that is was made in Taiwan was junk, but that also changed a long time ago.

The old "World Class" line of optics was pretty good, but, as posted, optics/coatings have come a long, long way since then.
 
A friend has factory codes and can tell where an Oriental scope came from, no matter the cosmetics and trademark. He has gotten Deals and avoided duds.

I didn't and bought two scopes of the same brand. One was a jewel, the other a lemon.
 
In my experience, both Chinese and Taiwanese companies respond exactly to specifications.

Whatever you want to produce, they're ready for you. You can produce guns, hacksaws, chain, railcars, gi-normous cranes or tiny tin cups. And they'll produce your product exactly as you tell them to.

You can go to either place, specify junk, and get junk. They'll be happy to grind out ten thousand, a hundred thousand or a million pieces of your junk, and every piece will meet your specifications.

You can also go to each country, set extremely high specifications, (like, for instance, Apple does) and they will meet your specifications, and your product's quality will be exactly what you specified.

These days, low quality coming out of Taiwan or China has nothing to do with them. It has to do with what was specified.
 
Yup
The last time I went to the SHOT Show, there was a large display of optical products with no known logo, attended by a couple of Oriental gentlemen. I bet you could order a conex of scopes of any grade with your name on them.
I have read that you have to monitor them closely, that quality will slide if they think you are not watching.
 
These days, low quality coming out of Taiwan or China has nothing to do with them. It has to do with what was specified.
And how well the buyer scrutinizes the end product, holds their feet to the fire per say. But I imagine that is true many places. When we buy from someone who produces their own product, they are apt to hold their own standards, good, bad, great, whatever (And we know ahead of time what that is), but when we specify from a company that produces to order, it is up to us to do some quality control/checking.

For the most part these days we know the quality range of scopes coming from different countries.
 
"Made in Taiwan" and "Tasco": two phrases that just scream "quality."


LOL...well I get your point, but quality is a relative term.

I was not asking if the scope was the equal of a Nightforce. Since there is general agreement that the Japanese made Tasco's were better than today's Chinese made Tasco's, my question is were the Taiwanese made Tasco's also better than the current Chineseum Tasco's.
 
I recently glommed a Swiss K31 which came with a Tasco "World Class" 6-24 x 40 scope made in Taiwan. I know that the later Chinese Tasco scopes are not well thought of but the Japanese made Tasco's are supposed to be OK.

Anyone know anything about the Taiwanese Tasco's?

When I was a kid made in Japan was cheap junk, then they got good at manufacturing, after that is was made in Taiwan was junk, but that also changed a long time ago.

The old "World Class" line of optics was pretty good, but, as posted, optics/coatings have come a long, long way since then.

I assumed that the Tasco was made in China (mainland) and assigned zero value to the scope when bidding on the rifle, so I don't consider it to have cost me anything. I didn't realize that Taiwan had ever made Tasco's (or any other scopes) and wondered if they were any better than the current Chinese made "World Class" scopes.

Anyone ever hear of Taiwan made scopes before?
 
In my experience, both Chinese and Taiwanese companies respond exactly to specifications.

Whatever you want to produce, they're ready for you. You can produce guns, hacksaws, chain, railcars, gi-normous cranes or tiny tin cups. And they'll produce your product exactly as you tell them to.

You can go to either place, specify junk, and get junk. They'll be happy to grind out ten thousand, a hundred thousand or a million pieces of your junk, and every piece will meet your specifications.

You can also go to each country, set extremely high specifications, (like, for instance, Apple does) and they will meet your specifications, and your product's quality will be exactly what you specified.

These days, low quality coming out of Taiwan or China has nothing to do with them. It has to do with what was specified.

And how well the buyer scrutinizes the end product, holds their feet to the fire per say. But I imagine that is true many places. When we buy from someone who produces their own product, they are apt to hold their own standards, good, bad, great, whatever (And we know ahead of time what that is), but when we specify from a company that produces to order, it is up to us to do some quality control/checking.

For the most part these days we know the quality range of scopes coming from different countries.

Yup
The last time I went to the SHOT Show, there was a large display of optical products with no known logo, attended by a couple of Oriental gentlemen. I bet you could order a conex of scopes of any grade with your name on them.
I have read that you have to monitor them closely, that quality will slide if they think you are not watching.

My only experience with these matters is a cousin who sold fairly high-end fishing gear . He started out having it made in China. He advised that it was possible to get his gear from China made to his specifications...if he spent 24 hours a day on the factory floor examining the products. He ultimately met an Asian manufacturing broker who convinced him that he needed to use a South Korean manufacturer. It was a much happier arrangement.
 
LOL...well I get your point, but quality is a relative term.

I was not asking if the scope was the equal of a Nightforce. Since there is general agreement that the Japanese made Tasco's were better than today's Chinese made Tasco's, my question is were the Taiwanese made Tasco's also better than the current Chineseum Tasco's.
Let me clarify: everything Tasco is junk.
 
In my experience, both Chinese and Taiwanese companies respond exactly to specifications.

No, they don’t. Delta machinery, among others found out the hard way and it permanently damaged their reputation while bleeding money the whole way. The factory manager openly admitted that workers would never take quality seriously without a US QA team overseeing operations on site.


Let me clarify: everything Tasco is junk.

I own Japanese Tasco scopes that at present are mounted on rifles and working fine. They’re repeatable, clearer than most current $100 scopes, and despite the tank like build quality they’re far more svelte than most modern glass. 27C1F990-B67F-405E-8287-D253BA645BA2.jpeg


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I also own a Taiwanese Tasco which was also reasonable quality-wise until the power ring screw stripped. It’s JB’d back in place again but unmounted for now. May become a dust collector or part of a cheap project. It did manage over a decade on my 30-06.
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This is a cheap Japanese Tasco that I installed on this rifle

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Considering every case neck cracked due to old powder, I can't blame the scope for any problems.

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I have a number of inexpensive scopes from that era. And let me say, hold the thing up, look at something at distance, look at the edges of the field of view, and it if looks clear, there is nothing wrong with the optics. These were not target scopes, you set the windage and elevation with a coin and left it there. I don't trust these things to track repeatably like a target scope. And, I don't fully trust target scopes to track repeatability. My F Class buds have stories of very expensive scopes, like $3,000 scopes, that tracked irregularly, or not at all! But, once set, they seem to stay put with a reasonable number of rounds.
 
Keeping with the Tasco World Class scope topic I have no experience with the Japanese and Taiwanese models but I do have a circa 1995 purchased World Class 3-9x 40mm that was made in Korea. Put it on a sporterized #4 Mk. 1 Lee-Enfield; sighted it in and didn't touch the settings at all until 765 rounds later in 2007, according to my log book, when it lost zero and a didn't seem to respond to an adjustment. Pulled it off immediately and put on a different scope I had laying around here. Maybe I was too hasty. Gonna re-mount it on something someday and play with it to see exactly what the story is. I've never heard of any of those Korean Tascos . Any one else have any experience with them? Original box and paperwork says nothing about where it's made. Only on the ocular ( eyepiece end ) of the scope "Made In Korea" is printed in black print on the black scope finish and is hard to see. IMG_7697.JPG IMG_7693.JPG IMG_7701.JPG Been wondering about those Korean models but never hear anything or see any.
 
Put it on a sporterized #4 Mk. 1 Lee-Enfield; sighted it in and didn't touch the settings at all until 765 rounds later in 2007, according to my log book, when it lost zero and a didn't seem to respond to an adjustment. Pulled it off immediately and put on a different scope I had laying around here. Maybe I was too hasty

I don't know a way other than mounting a scope and shooting it on paper to determine that the reticule is loose within the tube. I will say, many times have I experienced what appeared to the a busted scope, only to find the base screws were loose, rings were loose. The first thing I do in a match, when sight adjustments do not correspond to bullet movement, is to grab the sights, be they irons or scope, and give them a wiggle. Usually, like 99% of the time, the bullet movement is due to poor trigger control or, in the case of small bore, imperceptible wind changes, but 1% of the time, the sights are loose. I had one recently. I over tightened the base screw on the rings of my Redfield 3200. I could feel the front screw give. Opps! However I continued to shoot, did well, till I tipped the rifle over on the mat. It hit the scope and the front base screw must have totally sheared its threads. That moved the groups irregularly, about a complete rotation.

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Luckily, that occurred on the last day of the match, the scope stayed attached until the end of the day, and I did not have any extra big bore ring base screws. Things would have been bad had it been the first day of a four day match.
 
I bought a new world class (chinese made??) 1.5-4.5x 32 about a year or so ago, mounted it on my 7.62x39 AR. Seems to hold zero well but I had a harder time with the initial zeroing as it didn't track well. I was impressed for the price and havent had any issues so far.
 
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