Talo vs. Lipsey

[ODT]

Hi everyone. I just purchased a ruger super blackhawk and found out it is an exclusive edition distributed by Talo rather than Lipsey. Is there a difference? What do these distributors do to the gun to make it an exclusive? Thanks in advance.

 

[rcmodel]

They don't do anything to the gun.
They don't touch them. They just sell them.

They have enough clout to get Ruger to build special run guns to thier specifications.

Or maybe Ruger has anointed them exclusive distrubrator rights to Rugers special run guns?

I don't know which?
It's sorta the 'which came first the chicken or the egg question'.

rc

 

[ODT]

Lipsey vs. Talo

Thanks for your response. Yes I know they are only distributors and not manufacturers. They do ask Ruger to make alterations, then call them exclusives, making fewer numbers. Both Lipsey and Talo do this, and aside from company size (Lipsey being the larger) I was trying to determine the difference between the two (i.e. what do they ask Ruger to do) Thanks again.

 

[JellyJar]

I don't know which?
It's sorta the 'which came first the chicken or the egg question'.

As long as my chicken is fried and my eggs scrambled I don't care either.

 

[rcmodel]

I have never sat down and compared them side by side, feature by feature.

But it always appeared to me the never offer the same exact models.

Go to Rugers website and click on the Distributor Exclusive's for each model and you will see who offers what.

They are never the same things.

rc

 

[Barry the Bear]

As far as I know they are owned by the same company as both models will show up on the lipseys website. Maybe like Remington does with multiple brands they ask for different makes and models under different names for more profit.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

The difference on the Talo guns is cosmetic only. However, I really like some of their offerings. It's just a matter of paying a few extra bucks for a non standard variant.

I had a S&W 642 talo and as near as I could tell the only difference I could see was some nice laminat grips from Altamont.

Now my 686+ came with Altamont grips a "case hardened" colored trigger and hammer, though that seems more standard now, but it also came with a unflutted cylinder, which I personally really like. I replaced the grips with Nill grips.

I like having a gun that's 3 degrees from standard. The value is up to you to decide.

 

[Saleen322]

Sometimes you can get something very special from a distributor run. I have a blackhawk in 10mm/38-40 that was contracted by Buckeye Sports. Not only does it have a high polish blue and very nice engraving of the calibers on the cylinders, it also came in a caliber that I don't believe Ruger ever offered. Great gun and very accurate shooter, a keeper for sure.

 

[ODT]

Thanks for all of your responses. I really didn't know anything about it. I saw the gun and have wanted a .44 mag and really like Ruger so I got it sort of on impulse. I learned about this dealer exclusive stuff only later. The image is a stock photo. Mine is used but was only produced about 5 months ago and I don't think ever fired, so I saved a couple hundred bucks, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it. Its my first experience with a .44 Mag. and I cant wait to shoot it! Thanks again

 

[Dain Bramage]

My understanding in the SBH .44 mag, both have 3.75" barrels, but the TALO version has the standard "plow-handle" SAA-style grips, and the Lipsey's has Bisley grips.

I own the Lipsey's version, and the Bisley grips make the gun a joy to shoot, even with 300 gr. full power loads.

I have never shot or held the TALO version. I do have a 50th Anniversary .44 mag Flattop Blackhawk with new XR3-style grips. I find I need shooting gloves to comfortably shoot full power loads in that gun. Even reduced power loads can be uncomfortable in extended sessions.

 

[ODT]

If I don't like the Talo grips can I just replace them? Do all SBH models have interchangeable grips?

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I would think so. They wouldnt have changed the grip frame.

 

[Barry the Bear]

I have the lipseys bisley version which is my cc. I did a review on here for it as well if your interested in it. The grip frame on the talo edition will be the same as the 4.62/5.5 versions.
Altamont makes great entry level grips or you can check out some custom makers for more variety.

 

[ODT]

So in case anyone was interested I found out exactly what the difference is between the two. The Lipsey "Beasley" edition has a slightly different grip, a more curved trigger, and a longer hammer grip. That's it. The Talo is more like your standard Super Blackhawk. Thanks for all of your responses.

 

[Airman Basic]

The Talo is more like your standard Super Blackhawk.

That's true. The TALO SBH uses standard New Model grip frame and I found rather quickly the Pachmayrs are pretty much a necessity.

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[CraigC]

The TALO version has the same hammer/trigger/grip frame as the standard 4 5/8" and 5½" Supers, which is the same as the standard Blackhawk, except the wide spur hammer. The Lipsey's version has the Bisley hammer/trigger/grip frame. Otherwise, they are identical.

The Lipsey "Beasley" edition has a slightly different grip, a more curved trigger, and a longer hammer grip.

It's "Bisley" and pronounced BIZ-lee.

I have a blackhawk in 10mm/38-40 that was contracted by Buckeye Sports. Not only does it have a high polish blue and very nice engraving of the calibers on the cylinders, it also came in a caliber that I don't believe Ruger ever offered.

Davidson's ordered a few hundred Vaquero's in .38-40/.40S&W back in the `90's.

As far as I know they are owned by the same company as both models will show up on the lipseys website.

No, TALO is not a single company but a cop-op of several distributors, Lipsey's is a single distributor. Who happens to be part of the TALO co-op, as is Davidson's.

 

[Barry the Bear]

The TALO version has the same hammer/trigger/grip frame as the standard 4 5/8" and 5½" Supers, which is the same as the standard Blackhawk, except the wide spur hammer. The Lipsey's version has the Bisley hammer/trigger/grip frame. Otherwise, they are identical.



It's "Bisley" and pronounced BIZ-lee.



Davidson's ordered a few hundred Vaquero's in .38-40/.40S&W back in the `90's.



No, TALO is not a single company but a cop-op of several distributors, Lipsey's is a single distributor. Who happens to be part of the TALO co-op, as is Davidson's.

I did not know that. Thanks Craigc!