Taurus Raging Judge

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32 gauge ammo is so rare (and so similar to 410 in appearance) some folks who inherit an old foreign "410" shotgun think it looks nice, but complain it sometimes take two or three tries to fire.

32ga being so close to .410 it would not be a good step up. I have seen special order 28ga at the local shop.
 
HAH! Yeah 1% is generous. It's crazy how popular these guns have become. How many different models are there now?? What does that say about people who are buying guns out there?

They even have a rifle version on the way.

I guess if its all about the bottom line, they hit gold.
 
Screw practicality, I want one:D

If legal, I could have a lot of fun experimenting with slug and buckshot loads for it.

Of course, then I'll have to buy the neat, but fugly looking circuit Judge version, and a swaging press to make 28 ga slugs.
 
If you think 410's are pricey, try finding and buying 28ga's. Seems like overkill for snakes and too limited for self defense. I would however, be interested in S&W's new 45acp/45colt/410 for a trail guns for snakes/pests.
 
If they are smooth bore they might well simply be "other weapons" (not AOWs)

From the factory pistol-grip only shotguns are not "shotguns". Shotguns are made or remade, designed or re-designed to be fired from the shoulder. It might be that these aren't "shotguns" if it has a smooth bore.

There was a big to do a while back when the ATF made some statements on PGO shotguns like the mossberg cruisers. People in the general public freaked out that they were going to be considered destructive devises or somehow otherwise illegal

Those guns are a Title 1 "Other" firearm (note, not AOW) that fires shotgun shells. Nothing more. They are legal to own.

Since they are not shotguns, there is arguably no law requiring them have a barrel length of 18" or more. Those PGO shotguns have never been shotguns according to the federal definition of "shotgun" in the GCA of '68. They've always been Title 1 "other firearms."

The issue I see with this gun being a smooth bore and classified as an other weapon is that it might still need to have a minimum 26" length. It is interesting to think about. I'd need to do a lot more research to really have even an informed guess. Taraus probably has paid someone to do that research already.
 
I got an email from gunsamerica today that talked about the Raging Judge
they straight up said,
There is currently no such thing as 28 gauge buckshot, but Federal and at least one other manufacturer have it in the design and testing stages and it should be available this year.

That seems like a poor business practice...to develop a weapon that's primary load does not actually exist.

and for those that dream of carrying a gun such as this...keep in mind that this gun is over a foot long and weighs 4.2 lbs.....That is more than a 6" S&W X-Frame .500 magnum
 
Even my local walmart keeps a few boxes of 28ga. in stock... Some guys really like that guage, and i think it's gaining popularity right now.

DM
 
I'm guessing Taurus wouldn't have produced this without first researching thoroughly to make sure it can be legally possessed by regular people.

I want one along with the circuit Judge in 28. Laugh all you want. I'll have fun with it.
 
That's just retarded, My 6 lb 28 double will bust my chops every once in a while if I all twisted up shooting at doves with 1 oz loads
 
I'm guessing Taurus wouldn't have produced this without first researching thoroughly to make sure it can be legally possessed by regular people.

While I agree they have likely looked into it. Have they announced it will be produced? If not this could just be a gun version of the cool concept cars that get displayed at the auto shows.
 
I think they should skip right to a 12 Ga. Raging Bull Elephant and get the gauge race overwith. Then the follow up could be the Giant Raging Bull Elephant in (Wait for it...) 3" 12 Ga.

Then they could bring out the Ginormus Rabid Raging Bull Elephant.... 12" barrel and 8 lbs. weight. 12 Ga 3-1/2" magnum loads. Now that would be a self defense handgun.....
 
maybe after that the "Raging Blue Whale" in 10 guage available in a standard model with a 14" barrel and a weight of 10 lbs, or in a "pocket protector" model, with a 2.5" barrel and a titanium frame that weighs 5 lbs.
 
even being a 28 ga fanboy, methinks I can pass on this solution searching for a non-problem to fix

besides, I long ago resolved to wait on the 8 gauge version, coming to your neighborhood soon, I do not doubt, probably in a plastic frame snubbie to resolve that CCW weight issue
after all, if you want silly for silly's sake, why go off half-cocked
 
I've never understood why people who hate the judge post in the judge threads. Don't see me badmouthing Garands and Model 700's everytime they come up.
 
I saw one of the Gun blast video's that said the ATF had put a halt to the Taurus raging Judge project. At least for now. He also said Rossi had some sort of mares leg 410 that they had stopped also. I'm not familiar at all with the Rossi.
 
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