Tell me your Armscorp experience

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I have two RIA 1911's. One in .45acp, and one in 9mm, Both Govt models.
Neither has given me any trouble, nor has either failed to function.
I've got close to 50K rounds through the .45acp version. It's my bowling pin gun. Several years ago, I mounted a Bomar Sight Rib on top of it. With no change of springs, this thing keeps chugging along.
I've not shot my 9mm version nearly as much. It has an issue with the bolt hold open on the last shot with an aftermarket magazine that is identical to the OEM. With the OEM it is flawless.
 
I am trying to get mine to run.

I wanted a double-stack 9mm, and this was the easiest, cheapest option. It is the .22 TCM/9mm combo, no rail. The good news is, I have it set up exactly like I want it, and I have modified my carry setup for double-stack mags.

The bad news is, it won't feed. I think it's a bad extractor. I sent it back to Armscor (their CS is handled out of Pahrump, NV.) and they covered shipping and everything, and it still didn't run well. So I gave it to a local smith, he tuned the extractor and ran it, said it worked fine for him. Still didn't work for me. I ordered a Wilson Bulletproof extractor, and I piut it in, the TCM runs perfectly, the 9mm still won't. So I will give it back to the smith, see if he can make one of these extractors work, possible throat the chamber.

I don't blame Armscor really, the rest of the pistol might be great, but if it has a bad extractor, the rest of it doesn't matter. It is possible to need any new 1911 to get some tweaking.
 
I am trying to get mine to run.

I wanted a double-stack 9mm, and this was the easiest, cheapest option. It is the .22 TCM/9mm combo, no rail. The good news is, I have it set up exactly like I want it, and I have modified my carry setup for double-stack mags.

The bad news is, it won't feed. I think it's a bad extractor. I sent it back to Armscor (their CS is handled out of Pahrump, NV.) and they covered shipping and everything, and it still didn't run well. So I gave it to a local smith, he tuned the extractor and ran it, said it worked fine for him. Still didn't work for me. I ordered a Wilson Bulletproof extractor, and I piut it in, the TCM runs perfectly, the 9mm still won't. So I will give it back to the smith, see if he can make one of these extractors work, possible throat the chamber.

I don't blame Armscor really, the rest of the pistol might be great, but if it has a bad extractor, the rest of it doesn't matter. It is possible to need any new 1911 to get some tweaking.

Hope you get it going. Mine is just like yours and eats all 9mm that I feed it. Are you having fail-to-feed issues? I would look to the magazines first. If yours are Mec-Gar branded, they are known for having really strong springs. I cut a loop off the spring on my 2 Mec-Gar mags and they worked better (more consistently) with both 9mm and TCM ammo. The RIA mag I have seems just fine as is. PM me if it still does not work well. I might have some ideas.
 
Yes, FTF. I have the factory mag with the divot cuts for the .22 TCM, and two Mec-Gar mags. I cut two coils off of one of the springs. Between the three, I can't see any difference at all in how they run. The only rounds that feed well are the ones I carry defensively, 124 gr HSTs. (I'm not carrying it right now.)

The problem I have right now is fairly consistent, failure to feed, a slight tug lets it 'click' under the extractor, then it goes. I will run it back to my guy one more time here and see what happens.
 
For those of you who have sent guns back to Armscor in Nevada, what were the logistics like? How did you ship the gun out, and how did you receive it back? I'm guessing you took it to an FFL to ship out, and then received it (after doing a background check) from an FFL.
 
Yes, FTF. I have the factory mag with the divot cuts for the .22 TCM, and two Mec-Gar mags. I cut two coils off of one of the springs. Between the three, I can't see any difference at all in how they run. The only rounds that feed well are the ones I carry defensively, 124 gr HSTs. (I'm not carrying it right now.)

The problem I have right now is fairly consistent, failure to feed, a slight tug lets it 'click' under the extractor, then it goes. I will run it back to my guy one more time here and see what happens.
It sounds extractor related... please post back or PM me if your gunsmith does not solve it for you. Mine is flawless and consistent after I did a little work on the extractor, breechface, mag springs (mec-gar only) and bottom of the slide (center disconnector rib). A little polishing in the right places and extractor hook profiling are the main points, though some other parts make for a very smooth operating pistol.
Hope yours is good to go soon.
 
I'm a die hard "buy American" consumer. Or at least I tell myself I am. Especially so when it comes to firearms. But I've been looking for what would be, essentially, a disposable firearm lately. I never thought I would be considering an Asian made gun, but I've seen some good videos on the u-tubes about Armscorps/RIA guns. And they are dirt dirt cheap. I recognize that cheap ain't quality and quality ain't cheap. But their guns look like knock-offs of Winchester shotguns and Colt revolvers. Those of you who have owned them, or have experience with them, what do you say? Reliability? Durability/longevity?
I Iike the name!!! Nice jump over Washington.
 
Haven't dealt with them in quite some time however I do have two experiences with their folks in Nevada and they were superb.
 
So I'm getting the impression that the autoloaders are relatively good, but the revolvers are somewhat questionable.

I find that interesting as that has always been my experience with Taurus. (good autoloaders, bad revolvers) Speaking of which, I checked prices on Taurus today. Man, those things have gone up. No longer what I would consider "budget" guns anymore.

I was looking for a .38 snub and my research led me to consider that it was just the opposite - Taurus revolvers had a long history of value for the money with the autos being too new to fully trust.

They are running under $250 if you shop them, the black models are the least expensive as they take less finishing. In comparison the Armscorp pistols had plenty of similar issues. If you discount the complaints about fit and finish leaving function as your measuring stick they aren't so bad. Goes to you get what you pay for.

One thing to sort out is how new owners treat the gun, and many are literally new to gun ownership. I read a lot of posts where the new owner didn't clean it, used reloads from the first shot, and then attempted to fire long strings without wiping the front of the cylinder or keeping debris out from under the extractor. Many appeared to be completely uninformed that revolvers are prone to debris buildup which can lock up the cylinder, or use ammo which lacks enough crimp to keep the bullet from sliding forward until it catches the barrel. Since the clearance is usually about .002" its not hard for a loose fitting round in front of a +P load to move forward under recoil.

You guys insisting revolvers are utterly reliable are likely exercising due regard to these things, yet new owners are largely clueless. My point is that revolvers came of age in an era where nobody fired 500 rounds in a range session. Finances and supply a hundred years ago were drastically different, but now, if you treat one like an auto loading pistol, these issues are more common.

Armscorp vs other snubbies boils down to more than a price advantage, tho, as we often prefer to purchase a firearm which impresses us more than anyone else. So it goes - does it actually have the styling cues of a more expensive gun? No, not even the S&W's do that well, with the barrel shape and underlug the primary visual items. So it goes - I bought a Taurus 85 UL - and saved $100 off the price of a BIN S&W 442. Which leaves a lot of ammo, loading strips, and a holster as the difference. This is why they are even considered, as they will be carried far more than shot, and are certainly not a major heartbreak if they should be entered into evidence. You could temporarily carry something else while ordering a replacement and not be exorbitantly punished in the process. When a revolver starts costing more than a full set of tires on a daily driver, tho, then you have to ask what is the real point, defense, or - ?

At half the price of the average LCR, it becomes significant and yes, you can improve the trigger with careful work that doesn't need the replacement of springs. Like the AR15, hammer spring tension governs pull weight, you trade reliable ignition for a lighter trigger. Be aware, if it's for self defense, adopting target range modifications is a pit of snakes for a carry gun.
 
I have one will & never buy another one. Mine is the 10mm and had to be sent back to the factory twice for the same reason Fail to feed.
 
I have one will & never buy another one. Mine is the 10mm and had to be sent back to the factory twice for the same reason Fail to feed.

Was it a bad extractor? Still working on mine.

I have found peace with the fact that ANY 1911 is more likely to need tuning. But yeah, back to the factory once, then to a smith, and now another extractor BACK to the smith, I would really like the thing to just run.

I still don't hold it against all RIAs. A bad exctractor can happen to any 1911. I still think it's a matter of trial and error.
 
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It sounds extractor related... please post back or PM me if your gunsmith does not solve it for you. Mine is flawless and consistent after I did a little work on the extractor, breechface, mag springs (mec-gar only) and bottom of the slide (center disconnector rib). A little polishing in the right places and extractor hook profiling are the main points, though some other parts make for a very smooth operating pistol.
Hope yours is good to go soon

So I gave it back to the gunsmith with a Wilson Combat Bullet Proof extractor. He was having trouble getting a combination of tension that works for both the TCM AND the 9mm. So I told him to make the 9mm work, because I want to carry it, and maybe I will build a separate slide for the TCM setup later. So he tuned the Wilson extractor for 9mm.

He gave it back, and I just ran six magazines through it, rapid and slow fire, a mix of different factory ammo and reloads, and it ate them all flawlessly. I am considering buying a Wilson Combat extractor for all of my 1911s just to have on hand. Starting to carry it today.
 
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