"The Fight" Force on Force Primer and Scenarios in AZ

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This class is just over a week away and we still have a few open slots remaining.

December 8 The Fight - FoF Primer Gilbert, AZ
December 9 - 10 The Fight - FoF Scenarios Gilbert, AZ

Hit our schedule page if you want to register: http://www.TacticalResponse.com/training/schedule.php

Rather than posting the course descriptions I'd rather share a few thoughts from the students in the last class we taught.

An absolutely amazing and essential class! Anyone who carries a gun should strongly consider taking a force on force class. Being able to hit nickels at 30 yards isn't worth a damn if you can't hit a guy running at you, while you're running from him. Shay, Aaron, et al, do a great job of setting up realistic, every day scenarios that test your decision making and tactical skills. A special thanks to all the role players, "innocent" bystanders, instructors, and classmates. Everyone had something valuabe to add. As usual, Tactical Response has exceeded my expectations.

This class is excellent. The lessons you learn from being placed in the everyday situations that come to life in the class are priceless. Shay and Aaron accomplished teaching thought provoking lessons in two days what most people might not realize in a lifetime. How you think you would react and how you actually do so are sometimes vastly different. This sometimes becomes painfully obvious in these scenarios. Now you can take your reactions, hone them if you are happy with them, or work to change them if you are not. For some reason some people think that work on a range transfers to life off the range exactly how they see the paper target downrange. Shay and Aaron were able to show us that we need to live it. I learned so much from the other students also, from their reactions and reasonings to some very good decisions and some very bad ones. These are some life lessons dealt out swiftly and effectively in two days. I want to encourage everyone to take this class. Thanks!

A definite eye opener. Lessons learned: (ways to improve)

**** happens fast.

Tunnel vision is real and take a conscious effort to combat. (drill scanning to the point where it takes no conscious thought. Never re-holster w/o a scan)

Hands get shot a lot. (More practice one handed reloading/weak hand shooting)

Some times I amazed myself with my response to situations, both good and bad. Some scenarios the right thing to do was natural and happened with out much conscious thought. Some times I did stupid things and good tactics didn't come to mind until too late. One scenario in particular I remember just kind of looking dumbfounded for a couple seconds. I think part of the difference between quick responses and dumbfounded-ness, is the result of playing the what if game before. Although there are infinite possibilities on what can happen in the real world knowing some basic rules of who and what am I willing to fight for is key. If there was a direct threat to myself, and no other innocents at risk decisions happened quickly and generally were good. As more people got involved, I could get into a state if indecisiveness when I need to be doing something...(AT LEAST MOVE) instead of wasting time weighing philosophical questions of defense of others in my mind. (Think in advance and know who and what is worth fighting for, so when/if something happens I don’t get my OODA loop messed up trying to make complex decisions I can make in advance)

Memory under stress is strange. I remember some things vary vividly, yet can’t even immediately after a scenario remember other things at all.

One scenario I remember yelling a command that know one else heard, Don’t know if I muttered it or just thought it, but I should have Yelled, and thought I did, but no one else heard it and it could have saved a life or two. (If I can find a range where yelling stop and similar such things doesn't get me banned do it. Also I should start yelling at my dry fire targets in the basement...my roommates think I'm nuts already, yelling at a wall shouldn't surprise them too much.

Targets Move. (Someone brought up traing on moving targets, and I;ve shot running man targets, but people shooting at you or charging w/ a knife isn;t realy the same as a target moving across 60ft at a constant speed. If I could find a target system that had a more random, charging/moving off line/ changing speed/ retreating patern that would be awesome. )

I'm far from perfect (more Force on Force training is definatly worth investing in.)

It is definatly one of the most eye opening experiences I've had in a while. I also learned a fair amount just waiting in the room with everyone, talking about previous scenarios, and what ifs, a peoples expereinces. I think it was a good group of guys, and a great training experience. The role players did an exelenct job of making good scinarios. Thanks to everyone involved for the great opertunity.



If I could sum up the FOF Scenarios class in 2 words it would be: "Complete Mind****". ... in a GOOD way

The scenarios were well thought out and had GREAT lessons. My head is still spinning a bit, trying to digest everything I and others did in various situations.
I CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS CLASS ENOUGH. I took Fighting Pistol a few months ago (from Shay & Aaron) and learned an incredible amount (it was my 1st formal gun class). Fighting Pistol was great and taught me a helluva lot bith skill-wise and mindset-wise. The FOF Scenarios class built upon fighting pistol and it's importance CANNOT be emphasized enough. It drills home important lessons that are incredibly difficult to emphasize without FOF training in various scenarios. We can talk about mindset and play out "what would I do" all we want online or talking with friends but until you're actually pulling the trigger (or NOT pulling the trigger) on another moving human being that wants to live as much as you do, there's no realistic way to train EXCEPT using FOF. Tactical Response is an great company and I would encourage ANYONE that owns a gun to take this class. If you're a CCW holder or cop that carries off-duty, THIS CLASS MUST BE TAKEN.

I've spent a lot of money over the years on gear / training / range time, etc. and this class is the best money I've spent so far. YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS CLASS!

I really can't emphasize the importance of this class enough. All of Tactical Response's classes are worthwhile but the FOF is where the rubber meets the road and will blow your mind. It's incredibly worthwhile and I've learned a lot.

The Trainers and Roleplayers were great. Everyone was very professional and the roleplayers in particular did a great acting job while the trainers drove home the incredibly important lessons.

It was good to hang out with a great bunch of guys and talk over our experiences and hear everyone's different takes on the different scenarios, etc.

I'll say it again:
I CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS CLASS ENOUGH.
 
Anybody who doesn't find a good FOF class an "eyeopener" probably didn't survive the class. You've not had any real training until you've had FOF. That's not to say other class don't have their value, you just really NEED to take some FOF's also!!

Stay safe (and practice, unlike me)
Bob
 
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