The Romanian AK market

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So, I have a WASR-3. The Romanian clone of the AK-47 chambered in 5.56x45-mm.

Ammo, is getting insane. Over here Wolf is getting to be $7.50/$8 a box where as American Eagle was sitting in that price range 6 months ago. .223REM is becoming a hard caliber to feed.

My mind, is telling me to do a switcher-roo. Sell or trade the WASR-3 223 for a WASR-10 7.62x39, where ammo is still resting around $5 a box for Wolf over here.

So, is this a wise move to you guys?

I know, the more the better, but I'm on a lowwww budget here... And I can scrounge up the dough for ammo anyday, its just an extra rifle that makes the wallet go "Yikes!".

Any opinions/suggestions?
 
Get the WASR 10 .. Cheap and fun to shoot .. check for cant and trigger slap if you can
 
If you already have mags and accessories and stuff, don't sell it. You might regret 5~ years from now when 5.56mm becomes cheap again and maybe 7.62x39 becomes expensive. You never know. I thought 5.45mm would never come in the states in large numbers and then look what happened. Some say the plentiful 7.62x54R is drying up too. It sure wasn't a couple of years ago.

If you want a WASR-10 then get it. But to sell one gun to get another? I don't approve.
 
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Get the WASR 10 .. Cheap and fun to shoot .. check for cant and trigger slap if you can
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Yup yup. along with Mag wobble...
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Century stopped using the slapping fire control groups about a year ago (maybe longer) and have been using quality G2 FCGs since.

As far as mag wobble, if you can grab the magazine and pull on it (directly away from the rifle), and it stays in place, what more do you want?
 
of all things to check in a wasr. the most important is cant, bend and well slop/

too much cant is annoying, but fixable
too much bend (wasrs often bend in barre and reciever) can be a problem
too much well slop is a problem.
 
What do you have to do in Alaska in the winter besides handloading?
 
My mind, is telling me to do a switcher-roo. Sell or trade the WASR-3 223 for a WASR-10 7.62x39, where ammo is still resting around $5 a box for Wolf over here.
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It won't be $5 for long...

If you like what you have, I'd keep it and look into ordering ammunition in bulk online.
 
I'll second the "keep it,you will regret selling"!!!
Pick up one of the .22LR AK types going around now.

I've stopped shooting mine for the most part.and moved
to .22's.
 
If you're going to play musical chairs to follow the ammo market, why not get an AK in 5.45? :rolleyes:
 
Maybe if you could do an even trade rifle for a rifle it would be ok, but it you are going to lose out at all I don't think it is worth it. 223 AKs are nicer to shoot IMO and should bring a premium over a 7.62. Around here Wolf 223 is still cheap enough at under $5/box, with 7.62 at under $4/box.
 
Well, the trade fairly square. I got $300 for it and I put that down to have a WASR-10 on layaway (serial # indicates a 1987 build).

So, after picking it up I will get some reports underway.
Personally, I think it was worth it.

I'm stuck with a LOW budget most of the time, and for the Wasr-10, parts and mags are ALOT easier to get ahold of and less pricey. The ammo is available in surplus bulk which is a plus, and has some more grain to the bullet. I have the AR if I need the lesser weight.
 
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and I put that down to have a WASR-10 on layaway (serial # indicates a 1987 build).
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The trunnion was made in 1987. The rest of the gun was probably assembled within the last couple of years. WASRs are made from parts that didn't pass military standards. These parts are kept in bins and used to make WASRs and STgs.

Still nothing wrong with 'em, just can't go by the trunnion date.
 
WASRs are made from parts that didn't pass military standards. These parts are kept in bins and used to make WASRs and STgs.
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That's the first time I've ever heard that. Do you have a source? Not saying it's not true, just curious since in all the AK/AR boards I've been hanging out on in the last 5 years, that is the first time I've ever heard that. Curious as to which parts too, as WASRS have a lot of US made civilian parts in them.
 
military "standards", eh?

I wonder what that means as to quality/reliability on those parts...
Its another thing if the parts were stripped off the military models

Either way, its still set to be a reliable machine, right?
 
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military "standards", eh?

I wonder what that means as to quality/reliability on those parts...
Its another thing if the parts were stripped off the military models

Either way, its still set to be a reliable machine, right?
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One of the larger crap dealers is selling milsurp ammo rejects. This is 5.56 M855 made for the US military, but the lot tested out to be 12fps slower than the specs called for.

Is this ammo gonna shoot just fine? Yes.

Are you gonna be able to tell the difference? Not very likely.


Same deal with the WASR parts. Rejected because it fails military standards doesn't mean it's complete junk.

I've not had any troubles with my WASRs. Ever.
 
I'm really new to the gun market and am beginning to look for a WASR-10 but have no clue as to what a good deal for one would be. any help?
 
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Well, i'm just curious about how they didnt pass... or what 'standards' it takes to pass
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Find the dstorm1911 posts on the sites I mentioned. This has been asked (and answered) before now.

Again, just because it's not to military specifications, doesn't mean it's junk.

Another example: Military boot 2nds are often indistinguishable from "acceptable to issue" boots. The military has very precise expectations, it seems.
 
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