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The SECOND Revolution...

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SteyrAUG

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OK, I know the general consensus among patriotic, freedom loving, constitutional gun owners is that we stand ready to feed the gun grabbers and other "domestic" enemies to the hogs. Gun boards (especially those with a "militia" edge) are ripe with Phase ONE (Expose the Bildeburgs, etc.) plans of the coming revolution that will wipe out socialism and restore consitutional representation to "the people."

The logic being once the "citizenry" is made aware of the diabolical plot and awakened we will "throw the bums out" and restore a truly representative government in Phase TWO. After all we have at least 750 men with SKSs waiting for the "marching orders." And once these fine Americans fire the "first shot heard round the county" everyone will jump on the bandwagon and join the winnning team.

Just a few problems.

1. The populace has already been enlightened to the problem and they just don't care. Seriously, Bill Clinton openly wiped his butt with the Consitution on a regular basis and the average Oprah viewer thinks he's some kind of hero. Hillary commited felony (and probably capital) crimes and was duly elected Senator. I firmly believe you could publish photos of the Clintons having 3 way sex with Janet Reno while negotiating the sale of NORAD systems to China while Osama Bin Laden films the decadence and 54% of the country would still vote for them. Just remember Marion Barry got RE ELECTED if you were about to say it would NEVER Happen.

2. The average "gun owner" doesn't even know what is legal anymore or what laws have been passed until AFTER he has been arrested for an illegal configured firearm. he ain't exactly in touch with anything let alone waiting for "marching orders." At best the MOST an average gun owner will do is occassionaly spend $25.00 on a NRA membership every couple of years to help fight the good fight. But don't ask him to be a annual member every year or give anything extra. After all $25.00 is a load of money. You can get a gun "transfered" for $25.00.

3. As soon as the 37 members of the various militias "open fire" when the timing is right, they will be immediately portrayed as extremist fringe groups and tied to white supremecists, doomsday cults, satanists and NAMBLA. NAMBLA will sue for defamation and win. When these patriots are rounded up and sentenced to life for "crimes against the Consitution" the nation will breath a collective sigh of relief. After all these 37 rednecks with pump action shotguns are certainly the GREATEST threat to national security that has ever been faced.

4. Mr. average gun owner will watch it all on TV from the comforts of his lazy boy in his air conditioned living room on a SONY Big Screen. He will think to himself that gun owners like that give him a bad name. He will feel safe that he owns a pump action shotgun in case he ever needs to defend himself from such terrorists. He has no idea that Congress is currently in a closed door session drafting legislation to outlaw the NEW weapon of choice for terrorists, the Pump Action Assault Shotgun.
 
There will be no revolution.

Because there will be no communication.

Unless you can find a bunch of silversmiths who can ride horses real fast.
 
Look, the government is so big and has so many resources any display of civil unrest from a militia is either going to be wiped off the playing board and forgotten or arrested and sent to prison for national terrorism (probably related to some kind of supremacy cult or something).
 
The reason most insurgencies fail is that they do not offer the people anything better than what they already have. I don't know of any other country in the world where the average citizen has it better than in the US. So in abscence of any improvements... I don't see any type of revolt occuring in the US.

Edit: To clarify, they don't have to actually offer anything "real" that is better... only the illusion of a better life.
 
Before this thread is closed, here's a few questions:

Who are the 37 militia members going to use those pump shotguns on? Are traffic cops part of the global communist conspiracy? Maybe its Wal*Mart clerks? Oh, wait, traders on the New York Stock Exchange? No, no... It must be government regulators. Thats it, the militia should raid the Consumer Products Safety Commission!

Seriously, most people are happy to sit back and watch the government grow outside of its legal, Constitutional boundaries. When enough people realize it has gotten too big, they do something about it at the ballot box.

If you want the government to shrink, and to remove outside influences on it, VOTE for Ron Paul for president, and any Libertarian candidates for other offices. Leave the 37 Mossburg-toting bubbas out of it.

Civil war doesn't fit into my social agenda this New Years.
 
I too do not understand what the revolution will be about.
Is this country as great as it could be?
No.
Is this country as bad as it could be?
No.
Is this country still the greatest country on earth, despite constant claims to the contrary by politicians, media, and activist groups?
Yes.

Despite all the infringement on the 10th Amendment, it's still in effect.
You're still the government.
The reason the 37 bubbas don't get the respect you think they deserve is because they are too ready to pull the trigger and not explore other options.
When elections go the wrong way, work on making them go the right way.
When elections stop happening, THAT is when we need to march.
 
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Sorry, gents, I do believe this is where the water gets too deep for wading.

Reminder: link in the upper right-hand corner (APS = Armed Polite Society) takes you to the forum where stuff like this would be a more viable topic.

Now, if you honestly think this is the right place, you can PM Justin or Larry. You can PM me, too, but I've already given you my opinion.

I'm not saying it isn't interesting, I'm saying this isn't the place.
 
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