mercop
Member.
These are toys taken from clients
The so called "Self defense knife."
- Thread starter Carl Levitian
- Start date
- Status
TimboKhan
Member
I carry a knife daily, but I have said over and over that SD isn't one of the reasons (or is at least a minor reason) why I carry a knife. Why?
I don't know how to knife fight, and I have no plans on learning how to knife fight.
I am certain that the basic movements of "thrust" and "slash" are pretty easy to pick up on the fly, and I guess if I had no other option, Stabby McTimbo would make an appearance, but it's pretty low on my list of things to do.
So, call it sarcasm, an honest evaluation of my skills, or a little of both, but in the end the answer is still the same: I would rather use a gun than a bat, a bat than a knife, and a knife than my fists.
I don't know how to knife fight, and I have no plans on learning how to knife fight.
I am certain that the basic movements of "thrust" and "slash" are pretty easy to pick up on the fly, and I guess if I had no other option, Stabby McTimbo would make an appearance, but it's pretty low on my list of things to do.
So, call it sarcasm, an honest evaluation of my skills, or a little of both, but in the end the answer is still the same: I would rather use a gun than a bat, a bat than a knife, and a knife than my fists.
That's what I'm talking about. Few people honestly appraise their skills as TimboKhan has.
I had a buddy that dropped $200 on his super-tactical bad knife. He held it on me, and I slapped it out of his hand. He realized at that moment that buying a Steinway doesn't make you a pianist.
I had a buddy that dropped $200 on his super-tactical bad knife. He held it on me, and I slapped it out of his hand. He realized at that moment that buying a Steinway doesn't make you a pianist.
TimboKhan
Member
THREAD VEER!!! THREAD VEER!!!
Mercop, on thing I do agree with you on, with the exception of a couple minor items, is the contents of your BOE. I particularly like the addition of a shemagh, which is a most useful item to have. I carry one of those and a regular old bandanna in my truck bag. Very little cost to weight or space, very large range of usefulness.
THREAD VEER OVER!!!! THREAD VEER OVER!!!!
Mercop, on thing I do agree with you on, with the exception of a couple minor items, is the contents of your BOE. I particularly like the addition of a shemagh, which is a most useful item to have. I carry one of those and a regular old bandanna in my truck bag. Very little cost to weight or space, very large range of usefulness.
THREAD VEER OVER!!!! THREAD VEER OVER!!!!
Splodge Of Doom
Member
Well, living in the UK, I'm screwed.
Unless it's a tool and you can prove it (i.e. It's in your toolbox):
Anything with a fixed blade is banned.
Any folding knife with an edge of more than 3" is banned.
Any folding knife with a locking blade is banned.
Any object carried for the intention of self defense is illegal. There have been people who've been arrested for carrying a gobstopper! (Granted, it was in a sock, but still...)
All I'm left with is my fists and my wits.
Unless it's a tool and you can prove it (i.e. It's in your toolbox):
Anything with a fixed blade is banned.
Any folding knife with an edge of more than 3" is banned.
Any folding knife with a locking blade is banned.
Any object carried for the intention of self defense is illegal. There have been people who've been arrested for carrying a gobstopper! (Granted, it was in a sock, but still...)
All I'm left with is my fists and my wits.
mercop
Member.
I had our friends across the pond in mind when I put Inverted Edge Tactics together. Because of the inverted edge there is no need for a lock. A SAK or main blade on a mulit-tool becomes a wonderful SD tool.
Timbo, glad you like the BOE. Have you seen my article called Five to survive the first Five?
Timbo, glad you like the BOE. Have you seen my article called Five to survive the first Five?
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
member
- Joined
- Nov 14, 2007
- Messages
- 13,146
I have to point out observations and/or strongly disagree with some of what's been said:
1. Though I cannot deny (necessarily) that a stick of some sort is equal to or possibly superior to a knife, the reality is that its entirely impractical. I cannot carry a stick everywhere I go. I CAN however, carry a folding knife. I can carry a gun a lot more places than I can carry a stick, and a knife even more places than a gun (the beach / lake, for example).
2. A folding knife is an excellent, outstanding, quickly deployed, formidable, deadly weapon, with rapid & multiple strike capability, ****IF*** you don't have a gun. Again, a folding knife can be carried completely concealed whereas a fixed blade knife ordinarily cannot (except for a neck knife, of which I am a big fan). A fixed blade worn externally is only "PC" in certain very limited places. Sure, in an ideal world, a fixed blade is better, but a
Do not discount the deadliness of a sharp, sturdy folding knife (with a good locking mechanism and sure grip) in agile hands.
I do agree with the (a) bring a gun, and (b) run like hell if you have a chance. But (b) is true in ALL self-defense encounters. You should always AVOID if possible.
If I think I'm going to a place where I have an unusually high chance of an incident and cannot carry a gun, I like my Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn folder, which I've made into a 2-edge, or my CRKT "Desert Cruiser" which has the LAWKS system to ensure that it cannot fold while employed. For everyday, the Kershaw Leek, Avalanche, or Spec Bump is carried. I would bet that I could kill someone very quickly with my razor sharp Leek, should I be attacked - even though the knife is relatively small, it's long enough to reach vital organs and slim enough to easily pierce.
I'm sorry to hear about the state of affairs in G.B. I'd have a 3" folder (non-locking) and work on that inverted technique, focusing on slicing, not stabbing, so that pressure is always working against the blade's opening direction, not against its closing direction - nice technique...
1. Though I cannot deny (necessarily) that a stick of some sort is equal to or possibly superior to a knife, the reality is that its entirely impractical. I cannot carry a stick everywhere I go. I CAN however, carry a folding knife. I can carry a gun a lot more places than I can carry a stick, and a knife even more places than a gun (the beach / lake, for example).
2. A folding knife is an excellent, outstanding, quickly deployed, formidable, deadly weapon, with rapid & multiple strike capability, ****IF*** you don't have a gun. Again, a folding knife can be carried completely concealed whereas a fixed blade knife ordinarily cannot (except for a neck knife, of which I am a big fan). A fixed blade worn externally is only "PC" in certain very limited places. Sure, in an ideal world, a fixed blade is better, but a
Do not discount the deadliness of a sharp, sturdy folding knife (with a good locking mechanism and sure grip) in agile hands.
I do agree with the (a) bring a gun, and (b) run like hell if you have a chance. But (b) is true in ALL self-defense encounters. You should always AVOID if possible.
If I think I'm going to a place where I have an unusually high chance of an incident and cannot carry a gun, I like my Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn folder, which I've made into a 2-edge, or my CRKT "Desert Cruiser" which has the LAWKS system to ensure that it cannot fold while employed. For everyday, the Kershaw Leek, Avalanche, or Spec Bump is carried. I would bet that I could kill someone very quickly with my razor sharp Leek, should I be attacked - even though the knife is relatively small, it's long enough to reach vital organs and slim enough to easily pierce.
I'm sorry to hear about the state of affairs in G.B.
I'd have a 3" folder (non-locking) and work on that inverted technique, focusing on slicing, not stabbing, so that pressure is always working against the blade's opening direction, not against its closing direction - nice technique...seeker_two
Member
Maybe I'm in rare company; but I'm one of those who does believe in the concept of the self-defense knife and that, like most things, technique is the decider on lethal vs. non-lethal usage.
My EDC is a CRKT Crawford-Kaspar folder w/ the LAWKS. One of the things I like about it is that, when folded and grasped in my fist, enough of the bottom of the metal-reinforced grip sticks out past my pinky that it makes an effective Kubotan/Mini-Mag-Light-type tool that can be used as a non-lethal alternative...esp. when appiled by hammer fist into soft & sensitive areas. I also like the Ka-Bar-type knives with the round, heavy pommels that can be used as a cosh. I wish more folders and fixed blade knives were made with these considerations in mind.
I guess, like Alton Brown, I like multi-taskers....
My EDC is a CRKT Crawford-Kaspar folder w/ the LAWKS. One of the things I like about it is that, when folded and grasped in my fist, enough of the bottom of the metal-reinforced grip sticks out past my pinky that it makes an effective Kubotan/Mini-Mag-Light-type tool that can be used as a non-lethal alternative...esp. when appiled by hammer fist into soft & sensitive areas. I also like the Ka-Bar-type knives with the round, heavy pommels that can be used as a cosh. I wish more folders and fixed blade knives were made with these considerations in mind.
I guess, like Alton Brown, I like multi-taskers....
RX-178
Member
I have a totally different set of rules for a knife fight.... although, to be completely accurate, my rules are more for PREPARING for a knife fight before you happen to find yourself in one.
1: Pick a knife that you can carry everywhere. It's likely going to be small, a folder, or both. But if you can carry something outside that description, and are willing and able to carry it with you everywhere, there's nothing wrong with that.
2: Learn how to use THAT knife in self defense.
3: Carry that knife everywhere.
As an example, I carry a victorinox swisstool with me everywhere. As a self defense tool, it's used as a fist pack/weight, instead of a knife.
1: Pick a knife that you can carry everywhere. It's likely going to be small, a folder, or both. But if you can carry something outside that description, and are willing and able to carry it with you everywhere, there's nothing wrong with that.
2: Learn how to use THAT knife in self defense.
3: Carry that knife everywhere.
As an example, I carry a victorinox swisstool with me everywhere. As a self defense tool, it's used as a fist pack/weight, instead of a knife.
- Status
