The THR 1851/1860 Club

[amdobos]

She's a maiden no longer...

I finally got out to the Isaak Walton range after work mid-week and fired my first 13 rounds. Pretty much sprayed from 50 ft: 2 on the circles, 7 more on the paper, and 4 on the backing. Had a great time, though and even cobbled together a makeshift carrying case to boot.

 

[PainlessWolf]

The Pietta Marshall in .44

Good afternoon,
A few wanted to see a couple of pics of this revolver when it arrived. It was manufactured in 1996 (per the dating stamp) and has seen use and care. Once I polish it up and the Goon has time slated on his schedule, I will send it down for a complete go over. The action is smooth but nothing that couldn't be improved upon. Overall, this fantasy revolver is much lighter than any of my Saddle revolvers but still packs a potent punch. It will be a fine companion while out walking my land.
regards!

 

[Bullseye]

1851 Pietta 44 cal Navy Yank London Model
came today. Anyone know when Cabela's put these out?

 

[45 Dragoon]

Very nice!!!



Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
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[Blackpowdershooter44]

Sigsmoker,
Cabelas had them last year in the summer and around christmas time.

 

[expat_alaska]

1851 Pietta 44 cal Navy Yank London Model
came today. Anyone know when Cabela's put these out?

No, but what is the date code on the right side of the frame? That will approximate it.

I see that it has not the European walnut (straight-grain quarter-sawed) wood but the European hardwood with the reddish stain, which I actually prefer.

My Pietta 1851 Navy Second Model (below with the red grip) and my Pietta G&G (with the walnut straight-grain grip) for comparison.

Your Pietta does not have the infamous "tail" as my 1851 Navy (CM: 2014) with a thinner wrist but rather has a grip like the G&G (CN: 2015) with a thicker wrist. I also think that Pietta has bowed to pressure from folks like usto produce a grip/frame without the "tail".

Good luck figuring out what an original "proper" grip/backstrap/trigger guard is.

Peruse Nathan L. Swayze's " '51 Colt Navies" and you will see for yourself. There is no standard throughout the production years.

I am of the opinion that Pietta, Uberti, ASM, et al, made subtle differences from the original Colt Navies so as not to allow easily made copies to pass as originals because of pressure from collectors of the originals 50+ years ago. There was even a campaign from original Colt collectors to not allow advertising in NRA magazines for such replicas back in the '50's/'60's.

That day has long since passed, and given that Pietta has boldly put its mark on the barrels, it is hard to defarb their pistols to pass as original Colts. I actually think that there a fair share of folks who, like me, are active in collecting the various replicas (Pietta, Uberti, Navy Arms, ASM, ASP, GU, various Colt 1st, 2nd, 3rd replica models given their history, et al).



sigsmoker, nice pistol!

Jim

 

[Bullseye]

Thanks for the comment and reminder to look for the date code. Mine is CM 2014, as well. It is found stamped near the serial no on the underside.
The brass 1851 Navy has the duck tail grip but the Navy Yank London has a thicker middle, and shaped more closely to original 1851 grip.

Pay no attention to the Remington, as that's a different club and the Walker that isn't in the picture or in my collection yet.

LATE EDIT: The year 2014 is stamped plain as day, under the loading lever on the barrel.

 

[midland man]

i hope i can be in the 1851 club!

heres my 1851 colt navy and I just love this fine shootin iron!! infact I plan on buyin more of these in kit form like this one here I just got thru doing and as I enjoy the kits from Dixie gun works! plus I am hooked now gotta own more of these colt pistols... the addiction is on mine has the date of 2015 underneath the barrel but I bought it last week.

 

[bannockburn]

sigsmoker

Like the latest addition! Nice coverage with the engraving Looks good with the blued finish along with the color case hardening.

 

[Crawdad1]

Welcome midland man!!!

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[DeoreDX]

Pietta from 1971 according to the proof marks. Took a while to remove all of the rust and get the nipples free. Had to drill one nipple out but I haven't finished renippling that one as I didn't have a 6x.75 tap clean up the threads. Removed a lot of the bluing to get all of the rust out. Barrel and cylinder are now rust free. She's ugly but the shoots great and was free A little phosphoric acid on the flash rusted surfaces turns the iron oxide into a more stable iron phosphate which is what the blackish speckles on the cylinder are. I actually like the faded work look. When people see it they think it's a real antique at first glance.

EM120092 by deoredx, on Flickr

 

[midland man]

deoredx I like the look of your pistol its very nice as I like the used look more so! plus crawdad1 thanks for having me in the club this is the best place to be!!

 

[Crawdad1]

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[kBob]

Well since brass seems OK now.....how about three of a kind.

A triploid Fantasy of three brass frame '51 in .44 never were guns.

For those of you that have been around THR for a bit, yes, that is the Clunker in the middle flanked by a couple of Piettas a couple of decades apart I believe. One has the Texas/Yutan navy vs the Mexican navy scene and the other is blank.

They go boom, make much smoke and much smell.

They are fun. The top plain cylinder gun once had a chain fire and came through OK. Paid less than list for all and likely would not have gotten into BP revolvers were the first not " a good deal" at the time with some accessories.

edit: Margle fargle attachments!
-kBob

 

[kBob]

....maybe this time.

-kBob

 

[pbragoli]

Here is my Colt. I just got it as a familial transfer and need to learn much prior to shooting.

 

[Suntiger]

I apparently have caught a case of 1851 fever.. Have purchased 2 Piettas w square back trigger guards ...they are a joy to shoot!

 

[midland man]

kbob I sure like the looks of those brassers very nice infact I am threatning to buy the one from cabelas that's on sale right now!

 

[Crawdad1]

#1 Choctaw, #2 Crawdad1, #3 Malachi Leviticus Blue, #4 HUnter58, #5 Berkley, #6 volleyfire, #7 dickydalton, #8 Ephriam Kibbey, #9 Prairie Dawg, #10 Fingers McGee, #11 45 Dragoon, #12 Willie Sutton, #13 todd haley, #14 Doubledeuce 1, #15 1KPerDay, #16 J-Bar, #17 sltm1, #18 bannockburn, #19 NineMilePete, #20 Yankee John, #21 mykeal, #22 driver243, #23 44 Dave, #24 ImperatorGray, #25 RS1860, #26 A526051, #27 dwh4784, #28 dagger dog, #29 StrawHat, #30 Skinny 1950, #31 gopguy, #32 RonC, #33 alexander45, #34 daboyleroy, #35 expat_alaska, #36 Brad_Bradsher, #37 perldog007, #38 RCampb6131, #39 jaxenro, #40 NMRevolverGuy, #41 PainlessWolf, #42 Avartarshots, #43 canaris, #44 sigsmoker, #45 mrdeltoid, #46 Z1900, #47 Yankee John, #48 Elhombreconnonombre, #49 RDCL, #50 dtalley, #51 mr wack, #52 686 Shooter, #53 Jimster, #54 webrx, #55 ZVP, #56 amdobos, #57 Stormson, #58 Cooldill, #59 Joshboyfutre, #60 Whacked, #61 highpower, #62 midland man, #63 DeoreDX, #64 pbragoli.

 

[expat_alaska]

@midland man:

kbob I sure like the looks of those brassers very nice, in fact I am threatening to buy the one from Cabela's that's on sale right now!

I believe the pistol you are referring to is a .44 fantasy Navy brasser.

If you already own a Pietta 1851 Navy steel-framed octagonal barrel .36, you can mix-and-match barrels, frames, and cylinders with the Pietta pistol listed below to create several variations of the 1851, to include a replica Colt 1851 3rd Model, a Griswold & Gunnison, a Leech & Rigdon, a Schneider & Glassick, and several fantasy variations if you have a squareback trigger guard:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/shoo...volvers/_/N-1115735/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580

The pistol as shown on Cabela's website has a Pietta "tail" but this pistol (manufactured since date code [CN]: 2015) does not have the tail, but is thicker in the wrist.

Comparison:





Just FYI. I have done just as outlined above with my two pistols.

The squareback Pietta TG was purchased from Taylor's for $25, but it took about 2 months to receive it as it was a special order, came in with a bulk shipment from Italy, and had to clear Customs. This TG only works with the "tail" backstrap and the "tail" wood grip. An easier way to purchase a Pieta squareback 1851 Navy steel .36 is to go through Dixie Gun Works and get the complete gun, but I believe that costs $250 + shipping. This pistol has the same "tail" configuration as the 2014 [CM] pistols and previous, and not the same as the 2015 [CN] configuration.

And I know I have posted the same pic of two revolvers on this thread. Just trying to show differences in the replicas.

I hope this is not too confusing.

Jim

 

[midland man]

okay thank you well mine is a 44c but I do have in mind of owning some 36c models as I have never shot a 36c before! but is there much I can do with the 44's? thank's for the help!

 

[Suntiger]

At the risk of showing my complete ineptness with my iPhone... How do I post a picture of my Navy on this thread?
Actually .. It's two of them now... Can't believe it took me this long to discover how much fun they are....

 

[vhram]

I've only got 1 1860 right now. Its currently with the goon Getting goonerized.

 

[Crawdad1]

If you want to be a member please tell me.

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[Suntiger]

Trying to post photo... Hope this works ... Would like to be counted in!

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