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I'll see if I can post a pic of a 3rd mod with a Walker cyl.(Kirst gated conversion). It is Hoof Hearteds. Its an awesome looking weapon. I'll be doing mine soon.

Mike
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Well, I'm not sure. They start out as .45 Colt but some rechamber them for .454 Casull and even 460 S&W. Load with bp. Makes a fine lookin package!!

I will prob go with 454 Casull and load to equivalent .45 C (since I shoot smokeless only).

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
Afternoon all,
Some more pictures and a couple of more questions as well. I was about to order a new wedge and some extra nipples from Taylors today and decided over lunch to get the revolver out and attempt to show wedge clearance and a few shots of the loading lever and conversion cylinder. Pulling the gun out of the case I noticed the clear wrap with the nipple wrench that the seller had sent along and see for the first time, other items in there. O' Happy day!, a new wedge and six new nipples. ;o) Onto the questions: How much clearance between wedge and slot walls should there be with the wedge tapped in enough to allow the cylinder to turn freely? Also, anyone else have the Taylor's conversion cylinder and how do you like it?
regards!
 

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I'll see if I can post a pic of a 3rd mod with a Walker cyl.(Kirst gated conversion). It is Hoof Hearteds. Its an awesome looking weapon. I'll be doing mine soon.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com

Mike, if I can differ with you:

3rd Model Dragoons had a round/oval trigger guard with rectangular stop slots. 2nd Model Dragoons had a squareback trigger guard with rectangular stop slots. 1st Model Dragoons had a squareback trigger guard with oval stop slots. (Flayderman's as reference).

In my guesstimation, Hoof Hearted's beautiful pistol used a 2nd Model Dragoon as a base for this conversion.

Man, I wish I was working for a living again so I would be able to maintain a mad-money slush fund for pipe dreams!

Gonna have to save that pic for my dream files!

Jim
 
Afternoon all,
Some more pictures and a couple of more questions as well. I was about to order a new wedge and some extra nipples from Taylors today and decided over lunch to get the revolver out and attempt to show wedge clearance and a few shots of the loading lever and conversion cylinder. Pulling the gun out of the case I noticed the clear wrap with the nipple wrench that the seller had sent along and see for the first time, other items in there. O' Happy day!, a new wedge and six new nipples. ;o) Onto the questions: How much clearance between wedge and slot walls should there be with the wedge tapped in enough to allow the cylinder to turn freely? Also, anyone else have the Taylor's conversion cylinder and how do you like it?
regards!

Well, Painless, I'm glad I could have been some help to you but I'm going to have to defer to Goon or others insofar as the conversion cylinder and the wedge questions. What is the pistol manufacturer (I guess I missed that part)? That will help others in determining the answers to your questions. I do know that the arbor-to-barrel fit has much to do with how the wedge fits and reacts to firing the pistol, and how long it will fit. Glad to know you got some spare parts with the purchase. It would have been nice to see the wedge fit from the other side of the barrel. You seem to have the oval Walker bolt stop slots on the percussion cylinder and the rectangular stop slots on the conversion cylinder. IIRC, I have heard that the bolt for the oval slot cylinder will work with the rectangular slot cylinder, but don't quote me on that.

I'm gonna sit back and learn when others chime in. Where's Goon? :D

BTW, NICE pistol and accessories! I like the green dovetailed front sight. Looks as if the previous owner had a nice project in mind. If this pistol has been abused, these old eyes don't see it in the pics.

Envious,

Jim
 
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ExPat,
Apologies. ;o) This is a Uberti manufacture Walker. The wedge is centered once I tap it twice. The cylinder came in the Taylor's box with a little instruction sheet marked for the Walker so I will cross my fingers on that. The green 'glow' really aids in getting a quick sight picture. Thanks, Doc. I keep her wiped down and have been going through replacing screws, etc.
regards!
 
Ex pat, (I mean Eagle Eye!!)
You are right, I didn't look before I typed!! Lol
I looked and it is a 2nd mod. It could also have been a 1st since all Kirst cyls have rectangular cyl. notches (so the Walker cyl has rectangular as well). Hoof does I.d. it as a 2nd though.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
PW,
The arbor is too short or the cylinder wouldn't bind up. The wedge doesn't set the clearance between the barrel/cyl. The arbor determines it. A nice .002 gap is what I set them at.

I prefer gated conversions for the open tops. I do have, and keep full time, a .45 Colt 6 shot drop cyl. conversion for my 5 1/2" Remie and I love it!!! The Remie is the perfect set up for a drop cyl.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
Dragoon, sir,
I had not noticed any binding while firing or otherwise. I tap the wedge twice with a brass hammer to seat it. The cylinder rotates fine. I'm wondering if I need to tap it more to close up the small gaps on the side of the wedge in the slot. My worry, I suppose, is having the thing loosen up while firing. I will put the new wedge in and see if that makes a difference.
Thank you for looking and answering! I can and will take more pics if that helps in providing answers ;o)
 
Dragoon, sir,
I had not noticed any binding while firing or otherwise. I tap the wedge twice with a brass hammer to seat it. The cylinder rotates fine. I'm wondering if I need to tap it more to close up the small gaps on the side of the wedge in the slot. My worry, I suppose, is having the thing loosen up while firing. I will put the new wedge in and see if that makes a difference.
thank you for looking and answering!

I know I said I would not interfere on these posts, but I need to iterate what Goon said about the arbor to barrel fit. That is the first thing one needs to address if one wants the gun to last for a while. The wedge fit is secondary AFTER one addresses the arbor-to-frame fit.

I guess I lied.
 
Expat, you are correct but not about being a liar!!!

P. Wolf,
The horse pistols and basically all Uberties, have short arbors. The wedges job is to hold the two assemblies together. The arbor length dictates how close the cyl and barrel can get to each other without binding. Without fixing that, precise tuning is a waste of time (read impossible). The gun has to be the same gun every time you put it together and that won't really happen until the arbor is addressed.
The wedge triangulates these points, the forward part of the arbor slot being the front point and the two sides of the barrel being the rear points. With the arbor length addressed (bottoms out in the barrel assy.) and the wedge in place, the revolver will preform as a single unit. The wedge will last now and since I use a BIG set screw in the front of the arbor ( it becomes the forward bearing) , it is adjustable so you can use your wedge from now on (as the wedge wears, from assembly/disassembly, the adjustment will make up for it).

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
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Not one but two!

Well I couldn't take it any more. After reading all of these Walker posts I went to Cabelas last weekend and bought two of them! A soon as I got them home I deblued the cylinders. The one on top has a great trigger the one on bottom however has a hair trigger. Overall they both look great I am very satisfied with them. My plan is to send them off to Goons before ever shooting them as I want them ready for this falls hunting season.
 

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ExPat, Dragoon,
I measured and the .002 was tight and the .003 would barely slide through at all. Looking under a magnifier, I see slight steel deformation in the wedge slot. The arbor looked all right ( I freely admit I'm not sure what I should be looking for ) but the forcing cone could use a stoning. More Pics and again, thank you both.
regards!

P.S. Holl, you're a lucky devil. Those new guns are Beauts. ;o)
 

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I plan on carrying at least one of them during our muzzleloader season. I do most of my hunting with a revolver now and haven't had to shoot past 35yds for the past ten seasons. I think these Walkers will do just fine! But, I want them functioning the best they can first! How do I go about removing the grips? I would like to refinish them also. Thanks!
 
P.Wolf, thanks so much. You will enjoy the Walker for a loooooong time!! (Even with full house loads!!!)

holl, that's awesome!! I would enjoy some handgun hunting with my .45 Dragoons! Maybe one day . . .
To remove the grip, remove the two top back strap screws (either side of the hammer) and the one on the bottom. Pull straight back. Pull the one piece grip from the back strap.



Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
Walker Club Membership Application

Greetings all!

Getting ready to do some first time "Walker" shooting, provided the rains stay away and the shooting range doesn't become a marina!

I'm wondering about round ball size. The chambers all measure .452", the bore measures .441" and the rifling measures .465".

A .457" ball wont shave squat for a ring and a .480" ball will leave about an .014" thick ring. I'm going with the .480"s, to start with. If they don't feel very tough to load I'll try .490" for a larger flat sealing ring around the equator of the round ball. I want to see if a wider flat will have any effect on accuracy... not that accuracy really matters. I mainly want "Wampum Big BOOM!"

Any thoughts on a good round ball size for this thing?
 

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WestTex,

Nice looking Walker! Have you been able to find the Walker Club thread to post your pictures on?

I don't know why, but seeing your pictures makes me want to go out and get another Walker. I guess it is kind of like 'Spring fever' only "Walker Fever".:cool:

Hopefully one of the mods will see your post and move it for you.
 
Damn vacations
had my Walker a week and still fondling it because no time to shoot(wife's family for some reason like me and wants me involved in their functions) BUT tomorrow we will be at the family homestead here in TN and I might get a chance. If I do I will take a photo and ask to come aboard:)
 
Well this is a fine piece of machine, amazed at the grouping in the few times I have had the chance to shoot. Still have not taken a photo but soon.
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Been having a ball with the Walker, cast my first round balls today and poke some holes in paper. Next make some powder. Trying to talk a friend out of his 1860 but he is a hard sell, begging is next
 

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