The Walther P22 vs the Smith&Wesson M&P-22 vs the Ruger SR22 vs the Steyr RFP etc.

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I bought a Ruger SR22 and decided I really like this class of handgun: tacti-cool 22 autoloaders. Has anyone fired both the Ruger and any of the others in the thread title, and can compare them? My one complaint about the Ruger is a bit of hammer bite. It has been 100% reliable and quite accurate.
 
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Which one works best with a suppressor?
A lightweight short / little 22LR pistol with a suppressor would be perfect for me around the ranch. Good for shooting things that need to be shot w/o further damaging my hearing.
 
The worst gun I ever owned was a Walther P22, I had every malfunction imagineable with it.. needless to say I’d advise against it.

Although I haven’t ever shot one I’ve heard nothing but good things about the SR22, I may have to pick one up.
 
My wife's SR22 has been nothing but reliable. One of her 2 favorite guns. And an easy 5 sec. to remove slide. I don't know anything of the hammer bite you have experienced.
I wouldn't mind checking out the S&W. But I would like to get the SR22 in the 4 1/2" barrel too!
Too bad for the Walther's 22. I haven't checked one out, but never have read anything to make me want too.
 
I had the same experience with the Walther P22 as Deep South: worst semi-auto .22 pistol I have ever encountered.
 
My SR22 is a peach. That little pistol shoots any ammo that I feed it, and does it all day long. The girls use it, my wife uses it, and I love to plink with it. Its a great pistol for getting someone started, or for inexpensive all day plinking.

-Jeff
 
I've since "graduated" to a Beretta M9-22, as I wanted something more full sized, but my Ruger SR22 is still one of my all time favorite guns to shoot... and I've shot it a lot.
 
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Which one works best with a suppressor?
A lightweight short / little 22LR pistol with a suppressor would be perfect for me around the ranch. Good for shooting things that need to be shot w/o further damaging my hearing.
You want what I just bought, the Browning 1911-22. The size you are describing and most of the available stock right now is threaded for suppressor. Two barrel lengths plus with or without the threads. Nice gun. Good deals on gun.deals.
 
My S&W Plastic M&P .22 Compact is thus far 100% with fresh HV. I bought the compact because I considered it likely to be better quality than the Umarex full size smallbore.
 
My Walther P22 was finicky on ammo at first, but after a few hundred rounds, it's not fussy at all, runs like a champ. When I first got it, the front sight popped out and I had to replace it with one of the extras in the box, but it's stayed put ever since.
A friend has a SR22, and it was worse than the Walther for finicky, but a few hundred rounds of CCI Mini Mags loosened it up good.
A guy I worked with has the S&W M&P 22 compact. When he got it, a spring on the rear sight was missing.
Took him a couple tries to get the right thing from S&W, but he did get the right one, and we finally got to sight it in.
The S&W shot everything he had with him with no issues.
If I was buying a new one, I'd get the S&W, if for no other reason than I like how it looks.
 
My S&W Plastic M&P .22 Compact is thus far 100% with fresh HV. I bought the compact because I considered it likely to be better quality than the Umarex full size smallbore.

That has been my experience too with my M&P .22 Compact being very reliable with a wide range of ammo. My son just tried it last week and liked it so much it is on load to him.
 
The early Walther P-22's did have some problems...mostly due to the magazines. After a while they figured it out and with the later version mags they feed OK. However their magazine safety is not so good and causes a lot of drag on the slide and is the major contributor to failures. It is easy to remove and afterwards you have a very well functioning pistol so if you find that one feels good in your hand....and are willing to tweak it a bit, the P-22's can be a good gun.
 
IIRC, the Walther P22 isn't "really" a Walther. It's made by Umarex and is basically the same thing as a Sig Mosquito. I had a Sig Mosquito. It was a piece of garbage.
 
IIRC, the Walther P22 isn't "really" a Walther. It's made by Umarex and is basically the same thing as a Sig Mosquito. I had a Sig Mosquito. It was a piece of garbage.
My son had the Sig. He off loaded it the first chance he had. He did buy the SR22 on the Rural King deal.
 
I bought a SR-22 for my daughter to learn on. It's a great shooter, it fires all 22lr I put into the magazine.

I also own a Sig Mosquito It shoots well but only CCI mini-mag.

I would recommend the SR-22 to anyone looking for a 22lr.
 
But that's the problem, why do these companies keep selling crap to the public that the end user has to test out for them.

Samples of the gun should have been thoroughly tested prior to the first gun being brought to the market.

The early Walther P-22's did have some problems...mostly due to the magazines. After a while they figured it out and with the later version mags they feed OK. However their magazine safety is not so good and causes a lot of drag on the slide and is the major contributor to failures. It is easy to remove and afterwards you have a very well functioning pistol so if you find that one feels good in your hand....and are willing to tweak it a bit, the P-22's can be a good gun.
 
I have the GSG 1911-22. It has been a solid performer, with a minimum of malfunctions. I bought it a few years back when I was carrying a Browning Hi-Power as my CCW. I figured it would have a similar-enough manual of arms. Other than I'm not doing much .22 shooting since the shortage, I found it to be a solid investment.
 
But that's the problem, why do these companies keep selling crap to the public that the end user has to test out for them.

Samples of the gun should have been thoroughly tested prior to the first gun being brought to the market.
Agreed....but we've seen this many times in the past where a basically good design is ruined by an afterthought add on magazine safety to comply with Company Lawyers or Local Ordinances where they're needed for sale. The Walther G-22 bullpup suffered the exact same fate where the mag safety ruined the reliability as well as complicated the assembly to a ridiculous degree. Ruger also had some pistols that were unreliable due to their mag safeties which seem to need extremely close tolerances to function properly. If the mag doesn't push up hard and far enough...the gun goes 'click' not 'BANG', and if it pushes up just a wee bit too hard it drags on the slide enough to impair cycling.

The better mag safety design is one that blocks the trigger down below the slide level which leaves it free to do it's thing as normal, but this older design might not pass the modern drop testing requirements. I don't know why they choose to have the magazine push on a release in the slide rather than the much simpler and reliable trigger interrupting type device. Regardless of make and model...if the pistol has a mag safety and seems really fussy on ammo....that is likely the problem and once removed many will run happily on just about anything you choose to feed them.
 
I had a P22 an it was ok for what it was. Worked well with minimags or golden bullet, but sucked with anything else. Paid 220, sold for 280.

Replaced with dedicated .22 Glock which works better and helps as a trainer.
 
I have a Walther P22 and a Ruger SR22. The Walther is a neat little pistol but we've had some issues with it. It's not in the same class as the Ruger. The Walther has not been fired since we got the Ruger.
 
It's not a tough sell. :)
I with I had bought another one when Rural King had them for $269 a year or two ago.
You can find the SR22 for less than that on Gunbroker. Mine was 239, though shipping was another $20.
Ruger seems to have a real hit with this gun. I have literally never heard a bad word about it. It is sure a hoot to shoot.
 
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