THR Discount Offer from Missouri Bullet Company
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Brad,
I need to order a small dump truck load of .357s .. blew through 500 of them this afternoon in no time at all .. very good bullets!
I need to order a small dump truck load of .357s .. blew through 500 of them this afternoon in no time at all .. very good bullets!
BK
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If I didn't cast, I'd take advantage.
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Brad,
I just wanted to say thanks again for providing and excellent service! I don't know if you remember me, but I always try and leave a note in the comments section of my orders because I used to live in Missouri and really am home sick about moving back from Rochester, NY...Anyway, I sent you good folks an email a few weeks ago inquiring about adding some buckshot projectiles to the list of offerings that you have.
Do you guys have any plans or even notions of adding buckshot lead balls to your offerings? Right now ordering from cabela's for hornady lead shot is about the only game in town and I'd really like to give my business to you for that aspect of my reloading budget.
Thanks again,
-Matt Hammond in Rochester, NY
I just wanted to say thanks again for providing and excellent service! I don't know if you remember me, but I always try and leave a note in the comments section of my orders because I used to live in Missouri and really am home sick about moving back from Rochester, NY...Anyway, I sent you good folks an email a few weeks ago inquiring about adding some buckshot projectiles to the list of offerings that you have.
Do you guys have any plans or even notions of adding buckshot lead balls to your offerings? Right now ordering from cabela's for hornady lead shot is about the only game in town and I'd really like to give my business to you for that aspect of my reloading budget.
Thanks again,
-Matt Hammond in Rochester, NY
Joemyxplyx
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Fast service, low price + discount
Brad,
Thanks for the discount and fast service. I ordered 2,000 125 grain .358 CAS bullets on Saturday at 6:00am and got them today, Monday at 1:00pm. That's 55 hours inculding a sunday. Way to hustle.
Brad,
Thanks for the discount and fast service. I ordered 2,000 125 grain .358 CAS bullets on Saturday at 6:00am and got them today, Monday at 1:00pm. That's 55 hours inculding a sunday. Way to hustle.
MissouriBullet
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Shipping time
Well, you're certainly welcome!
I do not understand the problem other casters seem to be having with getting orders out in a timely manner. We make bullets every day, the 3 of us plus the shipping department, and nearly always can get an order out the same day if it is received by noon CST. This would be because we have the bullets in stock. Now, there may be some who would assume that we have them in stock because we aren't selling many and so have huge piles of bullets lying around. That would be an incorrect perception, as we manufacture and ship over a million bullets a month, which works out to more than 2,000 boxes of 500 bullets. This is in addition to supplying a growing number of gunstores nationwide and all the major gunstores in our area. Like I said, we make bullets all day, typically, 75,000 of them. Not hard to do when you have enough equipment.
Anyhow, to those who wonder how we do it, that's how. We work all the time and have never skimped on buying bullet casting/sizing equipment (4 Magma casters, 5 Magma lubrisizers), keeping spares on hand (motors and other critical items), and lots and lots of moulds that we use to cast the (currently) 42 bullets in our lineup. We buy alloy by the 22 ton truckload on a long-term contracted price so we always have the lead and a forklift to move it with. And when I say we work all the time, I mean we work our a$$es off!
So I guess we're doing something different from the other casters who are quoting 3-4 weeks or more to ship bullets that they ought to be able to get out to their customers in the next day or so. I wish I knew what the problem is. I really do.
Anyhow, it's the end of another long day. If you want some bullets that aren't in stock, order by 0800 tomorrow and they will be made and shipped tomorrow. But you really don't have to do that, because everything is already in stock
Brad
Well, you're certainly welcome!
I do not understand the problem other casters seem to be having with getting orders out in a timely manner. We make bullets every day, the 3 of us plus the shipping department, and nearly always can get an order out the same day if it is received by noon CST. This would be because we have the bullets in stock. Now, there may be some who would assume that we have them in stock because we aren't selling many and so have huge piles of bullets lying around. That would be an incorrect perception, as we manufacture and ship over a million bullets a month, which works out to more than 2,000 boxes of 500 bullets. This is in addition to supplying a growing number of gunstores nationwide and all the major gunstores in our area. Like I said, we make bullets all day, typically, 75,000 of them. Not hard to do when you have enough equipment.
Anyhow, to those who wonder how we do it, that's how. We work all the time and have never skimped on buying bullet casting/sizing equipment (4 Magma casters, 5 Magma lubrisizers), keeping spares on hand (motors and other critical items), and lots and lots of moulds that we use to cast the (currently) 42 bullets in our lineup. We buy alloy by the 22 ton truckload on a long-term contracted price so we always have the lead and a forklift to move it with. And when I say we work all the time, I mean we work our a$$es off!
So I guess we're doing something different from the other casters who are quoting 3-4 weeks or more to ship bullets that they ought to be able to get out to their customers in the next day or so. I wish I knew what the problem is. I really do.
Anyhow, it's the end of another long day. If you want some bullets that aren't in stock, order by 0800 tomorrow and they will be made and shipped tomorrow. But you really don't have to do that, because everything is already in stock
Brad
Gryffydd
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I'm out in Washington State and I ordered on Thursday, received on Saturday
As fast as that is for getting bullets period, that's freaking fast for USPS to do anything. You make them an offer they couldn't refuse or something?
Haven't had a chance to load them up, but I managed to free up about 1,000rds of brass this weekend, so I'll be getting to them soon. I'm really looking forward to trying out those .45 300gr TCs!
Now if I could get powder and primers as easily and quickly I'd be in hog heaven. Course the wife might have something to say about that
As fast as that is for getting bullets period, that's freaking fast for USPS to do anything. You make them an offer they couldn't refuse or something?
Haven't had a chance to load them up, but I managed to free up about 1,000rds of brass this weekend, so I'll be getting to them soon. I'm really looking forward to trying out those .45 300gr TCs!
Now if I could get powder and primers as easily and quickly I'd be in hog heaven. Course the wife might have something to say about that
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Here is your Load Data Spreadsheet
After allot of you asking for my load data spreadsheet I decided to post it here for all of you to enjoy.
Most of the formulas were found easily on the net. I only used these formulas to ease in data collection.
The output cells are non password protected to protect the formulas from getting altered and the spreadsheet not functioning correctly.
Cell B1 & B20 are the weight of gun in Oz. (used for felt recoil)
B2-39 is powder charge in grains (used for felt recoil)
C3-38 is weight of bullet in grains
D3-M38 is input bullet velocity in FPS (calculates an average in column N)
Column O is Power Factor (column n * column c )
Column P is +/- 125000 power factor
Column Q is +/- 165000 power factor
Column R is kinetic foot lbs. at muzzle
Column S is felt recoil in feet per second
Enjoy
LoadData.zip
No Guarantee's on the Excel 2003 version. I used Excel 2007 to create this.
After allot of you asking for my load data spreadsheet I decided to post it here for all of you to enjoy.
Most of the formulas were found easily on the net. I only used these formulas to ease in data collection.
The output cells are non password protected to protect the formulas from getting altered and the spreadsheet not functioning correctly.
Cell B1 & B20 are the weight of gun in Oz. (used for felt recoil)
B2-39 is powder charge in grains (used for felt recoil)
C3-38 is weight of bullet in grains
D3-M38 is input bullet velocity in FPS (calculates an average in column N)
Column O is Power Factor (column n * column c )
Column P is +/- 125000 power factor
Column Q is +/- 165000 power factor
Column R is kinetic foot lbs. at muzzle
Column S is felt recoil in feet per second
Enjoy
LoadData.zip
No Guarantee's on the Excel 2003 version. I used Excel 2007 to create this.
Supertac45
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Can you ship UPS instead of USPS?
Boxerrider
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Whoo Hoo!
Just got back from the post office with a box from Montana Gold and two from Missouri Bullets. I apologized to the clerk about the package weight but that I can't buy those around here. His reply was, "You sure got your money's worth."
I agree.
Y'all even had in stock the Lewis lead remover I've heard such great things about but haven't been able to find. I don't suppose you're starting primer production soon, are you?
Many Thanks
Enjoy!
Just got back from the post office with a box from Montana Gold and two from Missouri Bullets. I apologized to the clerk about the package weight but that I can't buy those around here. His reply was, "You sure got your money's worth."
I agree.
Y'all even had in stock the Lewis lead remover I've heard such great things about but haven't been able to find. I don't suppose you're starting primer production soon, are you?
Many Thanks
Enjoy!
MissouriBullet
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New Discount Code for THR Members
We've had the THR discount in place for a while now and have had an excellent response to it. However, over time, the code has leaked out to other fora, with the result that folks who aren't members of The High Road have been taking advantage of it.
And so, as a security measure designed to actually get people to come to the High Road and actually join and participate, I have decided to change the discount code.
It was "HighRoad5" and now it is "THR-Original".
Enter it exactly as you see, the quoted text inside the quotation marks.
Maybe we can pick up a new member or two this way.
Thanks, y'all!
Brad
We've had the THR discount in place for a while now and have had an excellent response to it. However, over time, the code has leaked out to other fora, with the result that folks who aren't members of The High Road have been taking advantage of it.
And so, as a security measure designed to actually get people to come to the High Road and actually join and participate, I have decided to change the discount code.
It was "HighRoad5" and now it is "THR-Original".
Enter it exactly as you see, the quoted text inside the quotation marks.
Maybe we can pick up a new member or two this way.
Thanks, y'all!
Brad
rfwobbly
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Gosh, I hope so. Sounds like you and the little lady have way too many hours each day just swinging quietly in the porch swing. Maybe business will pick up.
floydster
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Brad, it didn't work with the quotation marks, so I dropped them then it went thru on my order.
Thanks,Floyd
Thanks,Floyd
MissouriBullet
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Glad you got it working, Floyd! The code is indeed the text inside the quotation marks, as referenced in the posting: "Enter it exactly as you see, the quoted text inside the quotation marks."
floydster
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Thanks Brad, you guys are the greatest!!!
Floyd
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I'm interested in the 158 grain round nose. would these be a good choice for .38 special snubnose shooting? It says "cowboy action" i'm interested in "full power" and +P 38 special loads
what would you recommend for regular pressure 38 special loads?
what would you recommend for regular pressure 38 special loads?
MissouriBullet
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Our 12 BHN Cowboy line will accommodate anything a .38 Special handgun can generate.
I'd go with the 158 grain SWC over the round nose. Crisp, clean holes in the paper, vicious tearing of a permanent wound cavity in tissue. The best of both worlds!
Brad
ps - Probably we should take follow up conversations to a new thread so as not to clutter this one with folks looking for the new discount code.
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rschmelzle
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I just joined THR today and found this thread. I started loading for my 45 ACP a couple of months ago, and just placed my second order with Missouri Bullets last week. Great bullets, to bad I missed out on the discount.
Bob
Bob
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I take it your already loading from that order aren't yah?
Justin
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Thank you for the discount!! 2k of the 9mm 115 grainer's headed my way!!! I can't think of a better way to spend my Visa gift card I got for Christmas!
Thanks again,
Dave
Thanks again,
Dave
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I just received my order of 2K .40 S&W 180gr CFP bullets from Missouri Bullet Company. Having purchased cast bullets from S & S Casting previously, I thought a comparison would be in order, so please accept my comments in the constructive frame I intend to offer them:
Shipping
Missouri: +1 for Speed. I ordered my bullets on 12/30 and they arrived this morning (1/2/2010, and a holiday occurred during the shipping period).
S & S: 0 points; a bit slower than Missouri. I ordered 1K 140gr CFP .40 S&W and 1K 180gr CFP same caliber from them on 12/8, they arrived 12/12. No points deducted due to the fact that getting them in 4 days was still pretty quick.
Inside the Box(es)
Missouri: -2 for Arrival Condition. While I understand MBC doesn't have much control over how the USPS treats their boxes once they've left the factory, I think the packaging/protection could use a little improvement. The exterior box looked like it was rolled end-over-end from Missouri to Maine, and one of the internal boxes of bullets had ruptured. There was no additional packing material cushioning the boxes inside the USPS carton, other than a plastic bag. The rupture released a handful of bullets into the surrounding plastic bag, and I could hear them rattling around when I picked the box up at the post office. There was also quite a bit of dust inside a couple of the boxes, which I suspect is dried-out lube that had flaked off (or was rubbed off by the looseness of the bullets inside their 500ct boxes). Some of the bullets have significant gaps in their lube channels. I don't know whether it was the dust or oxidation, but they just weren't as shiny and neat appearing as the S & S bullets.
S & S: +2 for Arrival Condition. They package their bullets in boxes of 500 just as does MBC, but at least for 180gr .40cal the boxes were more appropriately sized for their contents, and additional packing material surrounded the boxes in the USPS flat-rate box. On top of that, heavy foam rubber padding material was inserted into the free space inside each 500ct box to minimize movement of the bullets during shipping. The bullets were bright, shiny, dust-free and uniformly lubed with no gaps in the lube channels.
Selection
Missouri: +1 for a large selection of calibers, although only an adequate selection of bullet types within each caliber. Offers 170gr SWC and 180gr CFP for .40cal S&W. Met my needs, since I was looking for 180gr CFP.
S & S: +1 for additional choices within each caliber (although fewer calibers offered). Offers CFP in 140, 180 and 220 grains, and SWC in 175 grains for .40cal S&W. I'll be going back to S & S for their 140gr CFP bullets.
Price
Missouri: +1 for the Discount and charging only for Shipping (no handling surcharge). With the THR discount, Missouri offers a very attractive price. My shipment of 2K bullets came to a grand total of $134.45. MBC also offers discounts to registered gun clubs.
S & S: -1 for Overall cost. Although their bullets' retail price is within $1.50 of Missouri's for the same quantity, they offer no affinity discount for members of any on-line forum or gun club that I'm aware of. They also assess a handling fee, which is added to the uninsured flat-rate shipping cost. This brought the grand total to $144.55 for the same quantity and type of bullet.
Support
Missouri: +1 for MBC's Technical Details, specifically regarding bullet hardness, available on their web site. I have not yet had the occasion to request additional technical information from them, however, so I feel unqualified to comment on that.
S & S: 0 points. I would've awarded S & S a point for support after my initial inquiry was answered fairly quickly. However, the lack of response on the 2nd inquiry reduces my satisfaction level quite a bit. Finding very little in the way of load data for their 140gr CFP in .40 S&W, I emailed Jim Stinar at S & S to get his recommendations. He responded within 48 hours, suggesting 5gr of WST. A 2nd inquiry requesting the COAL for that bullet and load has gone unanswered for over a week.
Summary
My overall, highly subjective ranking:
+3 for Missouri Bullet Company
+2 for S & S Casting
In the end, though, the most important criteria is how they shoot. I am getting some lead fouling with the S & S bullets; they seem a bit softer than the Missouri Bullets so I'm hopeful that shooting the MBC bullets will reduce the amount of scrubbing I need to do after a shoot.
I'll post an update when I've had a chance to shoot some of the MBC bullets.
Shipping
Missouri: +1 for Speed. I ordered my bullets on 12/30 and they arrived this morning (1/2/2010, and a holiday occurred during the shipping period).
S & S: 0 points; a bit slower than Missouri. I ordered 1K 140gr CFP .40 S&W and 1K 180gr CFP same caliber from them on 12/8, they arrived 12/12. No points deducted due to the fact that getting them in 4 days was still pretty quick.
Inside the Box(es)
Missouri: -2 for Arrival Condition. While I understand MBC doesn't have much control over how the USPS treats their boxes once they've left the factory, I think the packaging/protection could use a little improvement. The exterior box looked like it was rolled end-over-end from Missouri to Maine, and one of the internal boxes of bullets had ruptured. There was no additional packing material cushioning the boxes inside the USPS carton, other than a plastic bag. The rupture released a handful of bullets into the surrounding plastic bag, and I could hear them rattling around when I picked the box up at the post office. There was also quite a bit of dust inside a couple of the boxes, which I suspect is dried-out lube that had flaked off (or was rubbed off by the looseness of the bullets inside their 500ct boxes). Some of the bullets have significant gaps in their lube channels. I don't know whether it was the dust or oxidation, but they just weren't as shiny and neat appearing as the S & S bullets.
S & S: +2 for Arrival Condition. They package their bullets in boxes of 500 just as does MBC, but at least for 180gr .40cal the boxes were more appropriately sized for their contents, and additional packing material surrounded the boxes in the USPS flat-rate box. On top of that, heavy foam rubber padding material was inserted into the free space inside each 500ct box to minimize movement of the bullets during shipping. The bullets were bright, shiny, dust-free and uniformly lubed with no gaps in the lube channels.
Selection
Missouri: +1 for a large selection of calibers, although only an adequate selection of bullet types within each caliber. Offers 170gr SWC and 180gr CFP for .40cal S&W. Met my needs, since I was looking for 180gr CFP.
S & S: +1 for additional choices within each caliber (although fewer calibers offered). Offers CFP in 140, 180 and 220 grains, and SWC in 175 grains for .40cal S&W. I'll be going back to S & S for their 140gr CFP bullets.
Price
Missouri: +1 for the Discount and charging only for Shipping (no handling surcharge). With the THR discount, Missouri offers a very attractive price. My shipment of 2K bullets came to a grand total of $134.45. MBC also offers discounts to registered gun clubs.
S & S: -1 for Overall cost. Although their bullets' retail price is within $1.50 of Missouri's for the same quantity, they offer no affinity discount for members of any on-line forum or gun club that I'm aware of. They also assess a handling fee, which is added to the uninsured flat-rate shipping cost. This brought the grand total to $144.55 for the same quantity and type of bullet.
Support
Missouri: +1 for MBC's Technical Details, specifically regarding bullet hardness, available on their web site. I have not yet had the occasion to request additional technical information from them, however, so I feel unqualified to comment on that.
S & S: 0 points. I would've awarded S & S a point for support after my initial inquiry was answered fairly quickly. However, the lack of response on the 2nd inquiry reduces my satisfaction level quite a bit. Finding very little in the way of load data for their 140gr CFP in .40 S&W, I emailed Jim Stinar at S & S to get his recommendations. He responded within 48 hours, suggesting 5gr of WST. A 2nd inquiry requesting the COAL for that bullet and load has gone unanswered for over a week.
Summary
My overall, highly subjective ranking:
+3 for Missouri Bullet Company
+2 for S & S Casting
In the end, though, the most important criteria is how they shoot. I am getting some lead fouling with the S & S bullets; they seem a bit softer than the Missouri Bullets so I'm hopeful that shooting the MBC bullets will reduce the amount of scrubbing I need to do after a shoot.
I'll post an update when I've had a chance to shoot some of the MBC bullets.
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MissouriBullet
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Oh yeah? Well, how come you didn't compare our live shop webcams, huh? Huh? Huh?
A nice review. I will quibble with the ding for the shipment being damaged, though, as nothing can survive a determined USPS worker when it comes time to destroy a carton and mush the bullets together so they aren't so shiny anymore. And on selection - we do have 50 bullets, more than most anybody out there. I'd have though another point for that would have been nice. But it's a minor quibble.
Brad
ps - if you want to compare shopcams, ours is at www.missouribullet.com:1024. I don't know what the URL of theirs is.
A nice review. I will quibble with the ding for the shipment being damaged, though, as nothing can survive a determined USPS worker when it comes time to destroy a carton and mush the bullets together so they aren't so shiny anymore. And on selection - we do have 50 bullets, more than most anybody out there. I'd have though another point for that would have been nice. But it's a minor quibble.
Brad
ps - if you want to compare shopcams, ours is at www.missouribullet.com:1024. I don't know what the URL of theirs is.
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I think Jim Stinar runs a leaner operation, and I don't believe he has a shopcam
My beef with the damage wasn't so much that USPS tenderized the box, it was that there wasn't a lot of additional support inside the box to keep things from shifting around. The S & S box was very carefully packed, with additional padding inside the individual bullet cartons and surrounding them in the enclosing USPS flat rate box.
The S & S box was pretty beat-up looking when it arrived, too. But the bullets weren't
I'd love to check out your shopcam. I don't seem to have the requisite credentials to sign on, though . . . it's prompting me for a user name and password.
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