Top Shot - Season 3

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Actually, I really liked "Cliff", who got eliminated right before Mike. I hated the fact that he got nominated because of the bounced arrow competition - I thought that was a lame competition. Cliff was an exceptional pistol shooter.

While I'm on this, am I the only one that thinks that Chris must be the luckiest competitor on this show? I think his skills are marginal at best. If I had to vote on who I think the winner should be (overall performance) up to this point it would be either Phil or Alex. To be honest, I'm continually impressed by Alex. This guy doesn't have much of a background in competitive shooting and yet seems to be a naturally gifted shooter with just about anything. How many people can pick up a .50 cal and do as well as he did first time out?

Isn't the overall performance of Dustin even better than those two? Pretty impressive considering he is not a competitive shooter. He would have to get my nod as the best overall shooter. And he won the .50 shootout too.
 
Nice job on the tube - Jake - having an obscene tantrum with the obvious words you used. Kids can really use you for a role model in life and on the playing field.

Trying to be a posturing tough guy. Much compensation here - IMHO.

Just lose and be a good sport. If you win you get a Bass pro card? Oh, my wife would take it and head for the women's clothes! :):D
 
Wow..Jake just screwed over 2 other people in the house.


No, Jake just screwed over how ever many thousands of people auditioned for the show and didn't make it. There are thousands of people who would do anything to have been in his shoes, and he just walks out. I hope there was a clause in his contract about quitting and the show doesn't pay him a dime. What a worthless piece of crap. Navy SEAL, my ass!
 
I think Jake watched himself choke so bad on that last pistol event, that he feared looking EVEN WORSE at the elimination. I think they did NOT tell them that it would be a rifle challenge, and had they told JAke, he would have been emboldened, and maybe stuck it out. I think he forsaw another handgun fiasco for himself, and couldn't handle the thought of choking again. Probably WHY he is not a SEAL anymore, and definitely not someone I'd feel comfortable around in a team.
 
Arkansas Paul said:
I hope there was a clause in his contract about quitting and the show doesn't pay him a dime.
What makes you think they get paid. A lot of good shooters decline to enter Top Shot not so much for the week they have to take off for the audition, but the month they are cut off from the outside world during the competition. I'm not saying there isn't side money, but other than the $2k gift cards, the only money they are looking at is winning and personal appearances afterwards

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I think Jake watched himself choke so bad on that last pistol event, that he feared looking EVEN WORSE at the elimination. I think they did NOT tell them that it would be a rifle challenge, and had they told JAke, he would have been emboldened, and maybe stuck it out. I think he forsaw another handgun fiasco for himself, and couldn't handle the thought of choking again
I believe this too. Jake is a very deliberate shooter...but he is a very good deliberate shooter...the main challenge was a finesse event. It didn't help that he didn't understand the 1911/2011 platform, which plays to the weakness of the locked down thumb grip

Nope. I feel the same way. I can't quite figure out how he made it this far.
I think he is the only shooter I've seen who has who has missed the nomination target :D
 
also mike annoys me by holding his hands up weird when being talked to
it reminds me of ricky bobby in his first interview
 
To me, this says three things about Jake:

1. He is a loser. Only way to get to the elimination stage.

2. He is a quitter. Sends a bad signal to his players.

3. He is not going to live this down for a while. I think he'll be living down the above two for much of the rest of his life.

One thing about Top Shot is that the majority of the shooters I'd love to go to the range with sometime. Jake is someone I WOULD NOT be interested in going out with. (Jay either, but mostly because I don't think Jay'd teach me anything.)

For this ep, I loved seeing the Sako. I got started in shooting with a Remington 6mm Varmint rifle that was capable of .1 MOA with handloads out to 300 yards, and seeing super-accurate rifles in that class is a joy. I am somewhat pondering a bipod now. . .
IMHO Jay was annoying and rejected coaching from the experts...but he had skills. I would shoot,drink,take a golf lesson from Jay any day. Jake was just a huge embarrassment ...I can't imagine him performing with a SEAL unit or coaching kids in college????
 
Jay either, but mostly because I don't think Jay'd teach me anything.

Not a problem, Jay makes the same promise of his shooting coaching as he does to his golf lessons: "If you don't improve, you don't pay"

I liked that catch phrase so much, that I've adopted it myself. Hasn't caused any problems or had any complaints, during the last year
 
I just figured they recieved some compensation during the show.
They provide free lodging and they provide food that the contestants have to cook for themselves...there is no TV, computer access or electronic devices (iPod, cellphones) allowed

Season 1 contestants were lucky, Chris (runnerup) comes from a restaurant family and did all the cooking
 
feels way too scripted to me

They put the show together AFTER all the footage is shot with the contestants. A professional editor and director can put all sorts of story arcs together from the unscripted interplay between people.
 
stupid toe shoes

Just because you're not familiar with them doesn't make the stupid. I saw them on lots of guys on the flights back from Afghanistan and Iraq through Kuwait so I doubt those guys are stupid.
 
If Jake, Gary and Phil were the bottom three in the competition and Jake bailed out after being nominated why wasn't Gary not sent to the elimination challenge? That seemed more fair than bringing Mike back.

I did think it somewhat ironic that Jake, who hated Mike, by quitting allowed Mike to come back.

Jake had a big chip on his shoulder, good to see him gone.
 
They put the show together AFTER all the footage is shot with the contestants. A professional editor and director can put all sorts of story arcs together from the unscripted interplay between people.

Yeah, 'ALMOST' makes me feel bad for Jake.

Although he provided ample fodder for them to work with in their projection of him as 'THE' all-time worst villain of Top Shot, I would bet you anything he never in a million years would have imagined that he would be portrayed quite so negatively on national television for the whole world to see and to echo in the halls of eternal 'hated' TV Show Villains.

Yes, walking off the show was utterly inexcusable.

I'm also certain that magnitude of negative 'press' can't be good for his reputation back home or the future of his career.

YET,....there's always those talent scouts out there searching for the next big 'Hated Reality Show Star' to use for some other TV production, appearance, etc.

Who knows? Maybe he did himself a favor. :confused:
 
Mike's return was most likely a factor of "we need X number of episodes for the season" you bring back a shooter or you're down to 4 shooters before you meant to be.

They also said this ONLY applies to contestants in the individual challenges (green team). Other contestants have left for family issues previously and the game moved on--often changing the team dynamics.

If you have ever organized a contest/read rules for a game show or sport you'll find there's darn near a rule for EVERYTHING. (Ask me about roller derby ;)) While it might be suprising this season, I wouldn't doubt that rule has been in effect since the get go.

And if not, I'm willing to wink and move on.

And for what it's worth I don't doubt Jake could have won that elimination. He really came across as an arrogant hot head who took his ball and went home when the game didn't go his way.
 
Ok someone in this thread must have inside information....how did bringing back Hughes make any sense at all...other than in a "we can't skip the elimination challenge, we need 30 minutes more footage for this episode" sort of way.
It was explained during the show, in the event a competitor in the individual stage refuses to compete, they bring back the last person eliminated. Mike had to beat Phil to get back into the race.............seems fair enough to me.
 
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Interesting they found a "rule" to bring Mike back.
They have had people drop out for non-acrimonious "personal reasons" and did not return anybody.
This is the first time a competitor has quit after making the INDIVIDUAL part of the competition, which was explained rather nicely during the show actually
 
Did you guys ever consider the notion that maybe Jake was a "plant" from the producers? He was "off the charts" for 10 episodes. Maybe he was there to get some drama into the show to boost ratings? Maybe they "took him out" now to keep him from putting out the real top shots in green? It's just a theory.
 
This is the first time a competitor has quit after making the INDIVIDUAL part of the competition, which was explained rather nicely during the show actually

Yes, I heard the explanation. I am not fully convinced that it was not an ex post facto rule. Not that it matters, this IS entertainment.
 
This made me LOL

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Interesting they found a "rule" to bring Mike back.
They have had people drop out for non-acrimonious "personal reasons" and did not return anybody.

They also dropped out earlier in the season before the teams were consolidated. Once the teams are consolidated, the # of finalists needs to play through to meet their episode minimum so they can probably meet their advertisement obligations.
 
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