Treadwell's death and body recovery - a live-action account

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ronaford said:
I did see the DVD, Grizzly Man last night and found it disturbing. This man, Timothy Treadwell, was obviously mentally ill to get so close to wild bears. So many in this world if not all of us in some way or another somewhat mad as well, just watch the news every night. It was a tragedy in all respects and very sad. What really makes me wonder though, is the incredible lack of compassion for this individual and his girlfriend. Were they wrong to be there, of course! I personally feel sad that his mental illness took him down this path and an unfortunate innocent as well.

Perhaps if we cared a little more for those that are struggling with inner termoil and sadness, we would have fewer tragic stories to write about.

Won't do a damn thing for Treadwell. He's dead. Save it for the living.

JY
 
I watched the movie a few days ago. The g/f rented it as a joke because I always laughed at it while perusing the shelves at the movie store.

Needless to say, I wasn't let down. It was just as horrible and humorous as I had thought it would be. :D

Treadwell was seriously out there...and got what he deserved. The amazing part is that it didn't happen years earlier.

Ed

PS. The helicopter pilots' comments were downright comical.
 
Far fetched?

Treadwell's co-existence with the bears was tenuous.

Add in his GFs period and tenuous went to hopeless.

It's not far fetched for those knowledgeable about being around dangerous animals.

John
 
"Grizzly Man" drinking game.

Take a swig when:

--Treadwell claims he's not gay
--Treadwell curses the park service
--Treadwell calls a wild animal by a pet name
--Treadwell touches bear scat
--Treadwell mourns for a dead animal.
--Treadwell mentions "poachers"
--Treadwell tries to touch a bear
--Werner Herzog interrupts his own film
--Werner Herzog makes an interview seem oddly staged
--Werner Herzog makes some grand comment on life
 
spacemanspiff said:
pish posh!!!! everyone knows that if timmy had grown out a tactical beard he'd still be alive today because those ninja bears would have been swiping and trying to chomp on his scruffy beard instead of his head or throat.

LOL

It's worked so far for me. No bear has ripped my neck open since I started my tactical beard.
 
It's a sad end for an obviously mentally unbalanced man and his girlfriend, but Treadwell made the world more dangerous for the bears he apparently loved and the people foolish enough to believe his trendy drivel. Not too long before Treadwell and his girlfriend were killed, I had an argument with a fellow in an astronomy group, (amateur astronomers have to go out in secluded places where it's dark,) about the dangers of bears. He specifically mentioned Treadwell, and said that if a bear were to come around he'd "spank it" and it would run away. I wonder how many other people swallowed this crap. Bad for people, bad for bears.
Marty
 
Templar223 said:
Treadwell's co-existence with the bears was tenuous.

Add in his GFs period and tenuous went to hopeless.

It's not far fetched for those knowledgeable about being around dangerous animals.

John

Again....

from: http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/menstruation_data.html

Bears and Menstruating Women
Information provided courtesy; Kerry A. Gunther, Yellowstone Park Bear Management



Bears and Menstruating Women. Should You Camp?

On the evening of August 13, 1967, two women were attacked and killed by grizzly bears (Ursus arctos horribilis) in separate incidents within Glacier National Park (GNP). Following these incidents, there was speculation that due to odors associated with menstruation, women may be more prone to attack by bears than are men (Rogers et al. 1991).

The objective of this paper is to present the data available on this subject so that women can make an informed choice when deciding whether or not to hike and/or camp in bear country during their menstrual period.


Polar Bears
In a study designed to test the hypothesis that bears are attracted to the odors of menstruation, Cushing (1983) reported that when presented with a series of different odors (including seal scents, other food scents, non menstrual human blood, and used tampons), four captive polar bears (Ursus maritimus) elicited a strong behavioral response only to seal scents and menstrual odors (used tampons).

Cushing (1983) also reported that free-ranging polar bears detected and consumed food scent samples and used tampons, but ignored non menstrual human blood and unused tampons. This suggests that polar bears are attracted to odors associated with menstrual blood.

Grizzly Bears
Herrero (1985) analyzed the circumstances of hundreds of grizzly bear attacks on humans, including the attacks on the two women in GNP, and concluded that there was no evidence linking menstruation to any of the attacks. The responses of grizzly bears to menstrual odors has not been studied experimentally.

Black Bears
Rogers et al. (1991) recorded the responses of 26 free-ranging black bears (Ursus americanus) to used tampons from 26 women and the responses of 20 free ranging black bears to four menstruating women at different days of their flow.

Menstrual odors were essentially ignored by black bears of all sex and age classes. In an extensive review of black bear attacks across North America, no instances of black bears attacking or being attracted to menstruating women was found (Cramond 1981, Herrero 1985, Rogers et al. 1991).

Treadwell and Annie were not killed by a polar bear (the one bear that by necessity is almost solely carnivorus as opposed to the browns and bears which are far more omnivorous) so apparently the menstrual issue is a non-issue.
 
I'm pretty sure the whole "time of the month" issue was cooked up as an excuse to keep wives and girlfriends out of the woods.

Hundreds of people had warned Treadwell he might get killed in just the manner he ended up getting killed. The big surprise is it didn't happen sooner.
 
I had read about Treadwell several years ago and saw a picture where he was approaching Grissleys way to close. I told my wife then he would not last long.

I've been around Black Bears most of my life. At one time in the Smokies black bear were commonly seen along the roads. We watched from the car people trying to feed these wild animals as if they were pets.

They are not as commonly seen now that trash cans have been taken away from the park. A few years back a husband and wife were fishing in one of the streams common throughout the park. As the wife sat on the bank the husband waded out of sight. Upon his return he found two bears feeding on what was left of his wife. From all indications she was stalked and killed for food. The largest of the two weighed 110 lb.

A couple of days ago a coworker was telling me he had watched the Crocodile Hunter on cable. He was in Africa and made the statement that "Lions were so used to man they were no longer a danger!" That will be another idiot eaten you watch!
Jim
 
Treadwell

There was a show about 20 years ago on TV about a guy that lived around and worked with wolves. He was was telling a reporter-et how gentil they were and how they cared for their young. He was doing this with a female and some here pups in a running cage and just happened to step between the female and her pups and WHAM the female nailed him. After all the time with them he still looked like a threat to her pups to her.He said he made mistake and no one else should do this. One picture is worth a thousand words.:what:
 
I still can't decide if I want to see this goofy guy on DVD or if it will make me sick. I think they are going to play his movie on TLC this week sometime maybe I will watch it for free.
 
sturmruger
I just watched the rental last night. IMHO it was worth that price because:
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---the bear footage is pretty good, especially the bear fight, though Herzog could have used more of it.
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---it shows how utterly detached from reality Treadwell and his entire cohort of "friends" and enablers really are. Actors, "ecologists", "girl friends" and the wacky coroner come across as the types you avoid at all cost just by looking at them, knowing they will eat up piece of your life with worthless nonsense.
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__as a litmus test down the road if anyone praises Timmy and/or Grizzly People you know exactly what they are and have the ammo to blow them out of the water in discussion.
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---some parts are unintentionally hilarious.
 
grisly man's story

Werner Herzog, maker of the doc "Grizzly Man" has stated on the record
that Treadwell romanticised the bears, assigning human feelings where
Herzog saw "only the overwelming blank stare of the bear" in Treadwell's
own footage of the bear that probably ate him. Treadwell petted large
omnivores cooing "I love you, I do, I do I do"? The bears loved him too,
and his girlfriend as dessert. Bears and people need to be taught to
respect and stay away from each other for their own good. Bambi is
fantasy, kids, don't try this outdoors.
 
I think Discover will be airing a documentary about Mr. Bear Bait in a couple weeks. Keep your eyes open (unlike Mr. Bear Bait)
 
sturmruger said:
I still can't decide if I want to see this goofy guy on DVD or if it will make me sick. I think they are going to play his movie on TLC this week sometime maybe I will watch it for free.

Watch it on Discovery. It offers great insight into the same sort of brains that want to ban firearms.

It's on this Friday BTW.
 
"Mr Treadwell, who never carried weapons, then asked her to get a pan and to hit the bear, police said. At that point, the tape - much of it fuzzy and inaudible, stops, Mr Wilkinson said."

It has been my learned opinion that there is considerable overlap in the intelligence between the smarter animals and the stupidest people.
 
Having worked with a couple of grizzlies for awhile last year, I cannot even *begin* to understand Treadwell's actions and how he survived for as long as he did.
Biker
 
The sad part is that this idiot got 2 bears killed. The funny part is that wild animals seem to hate hippies. Mountain lions always eat people jogging in the mountains. Grizlies find the unarmed to be easier prey. And don't forget the chick from PETA a few years ago who was protesting bulllfighting in pamplona. She was in a side alley during the running of the bulls. When one of the bulls charged down the alley ignoring a few dozen people. Then stopped and gored her for a couple of minutes before running off to the arena.
 
That Treadwell guy was one disturbed mothereffer.
He was asking for it; and, he got it.

Man, what kind of fool thinks a wild bear - Brown bear no less - is their friend???

Looks like the Park Rangers pump shotguns and rifled slugs did their job well. I wonder if a .450 Marlin would've been just as effective on one of those suckers.
 
Treadwell and Company

Although it's tragic whenever anybody comes to a horrific end during an encounter with wild animls...Treadwell seems to have thoroughly and
completely asked for it. The bears were killed for acting like bears...for BEING bears. Treadwell's assumption that if he pretended to be a bear, that they wouldn't notice his position on the food chain. He also seems to have assumed that if he could...by mental telepathy, I suppose...demonstrate to the bears that he meant no harm, they'd accept him as one of their own instead of viewing him as either an arrogant tresspasser or dinner. He gambled on that and lost. He got exactly what he invited. Sad that his girlfriend and the bears had to die for his moronic assumptions...but she should have known better too. Who...in their right minds...wouldn't be
just a little intimitaded by a wild, 800-pound carnivore 30 feet away? I mean...Really!:rolleyes:
 
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