Trouble in NY Microstamping

[SilenceIsGolden]

Remington will hopefully begin production of a certian old-fashioned handgun soon, however if this bill passes they will be unable to produce it from their main factory in NY and will have to make it in NC instead. being able to produce this gun in upstate NY will create even more jobs beyond its current growth Remington provides a source of income for almost an entire county by itself not to mention the surrounding companies that prosper and exist just because the factory is there. also this is the most current news I can find about this issue if anyone knows more current please let me know.

New York: Micro-Stamping Bill Heads to Senate Floor in Albany!

Wednesday, June 03, 2009

Please Contact Your State Senator Today!


Senate Bill 4397 passed the Senate Codes Committee and is headed to the Senate floor where it could be considered any time.


Sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31), S4397 would ban the sale of all semi-automatic handguns not equipped with micro-stamping technology. Micro-stamping is an unproven technology that would require unique identifying information from the firearm, including the make, model, and serial number to be etched into the firing pin and breech face in such a manner that those identifiers are imprinted on the cartridge case upon firing. The technology can easily be defeated with common household tools, has no public safety value, and adds substantially to the cost of the firearm. If passed, the availability of semi-automatic handguns in New York could be in jeopardy, as manufacturers simply may choose not to build or sell firearms for purchase in the state.

It is imperative that you contact your State Senator TODAY and respectfully urge them to OPPOSE S4397! Your State Senator can be contacted through the Senate switchboard at (518) 455-2800. To find your State Senator, please click here. Also, please email NRA-ILA’s State & Local Affairs Division at state&[email protected] and let us know what response you are getting from your State Senator considering S4397.

 

[2RCO]

Microstamping keeps getting thrown back but for safety sake email your congressfolks or better yet send them a handwritten letter.

Microstamping is stupid and won't work anyway but they'll keep trying.

 

[chuckusaret]

Micro stamping is like maintaining a round from every gun that is manufactured. Sounded like a good idea but didn't Md. try it at a cost of millions of dollars and has not been useful in solving any shooting cases.

 

[Colt Smith]

Called an wrote everybody many times. Keep calling and writing. Don't forget, in addition to 4397 (microstamping) there are also these anti-gun bills pending:

Senate Bill 4753, sponsored by State Senator Jose Serrano (D-28), would prohibit the possession of concealed firearms in any park or recreational area. Its companion bill is Assembly Bill 7183, sponsored by State Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4).



Assembly Bill 801A, sponsored by State Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-8), would require five-year renewals on pistol licenses. Its companion bill is Senate Bill 1598, sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).



Assembly Bill 1093, also sponsored by Assemblywoman Paulin, would impose new restrictions on licensed dealers and require retailers to obtain liability insurance against the possibility of a crime being committed with a firearm any time after it is legally sold. The companion bill to A1093 is Senate Bill 1715, sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).



Assembly Bill 1326, sponsored by Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4), would outlaw handguns ”capable” of being fired by anyone five years of age or younger, this legislation would outlaw virtually all handguns in New York.



Assembly Bill 2881, sponsored by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), would ban frangible ammunition. The companion bill for A2881 is Senate Bill 2379, sponsored by State Senator Frank Padavan (R-11).



Assembly Bill 2882, also sponsored by Assemblyman Koon, would expand the ballistic imaging program.



Assembly Bill 3076A, sponsored by State Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh (D-74), would institute a training requirement for issuance of a pistol license.



Assembly Bill 3211A, sponsored by State Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington (D-3), would outlaw .50 caliber firearms.



Assembly Bill 5844, sponsored by State Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg (D-20), would require the mandatory storage of firearms. The companion bill for A5844 is Senate Bill 3098, sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).

Assembly Bill 6157, sponsored by State Assemblyman Matthew Titone (D-61), would expand the state’s current ban on so-called “assault weapons.”

 

[Colt Smith]

The flip side, please call and write to have your reps support the following:


Friday, June 05, 2009

There are a number of pro-gun bills pending in Congress that require your attention and action. Please review these legislative initiatives and be sure to contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121, and your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121, and urge them to cosponsor and support these measures. Additional contact information can be found using the "Write Your Representatives" feature at www.NRAILA.org.

• S. 941/H.R. 2296-- the "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act." This bill would roll back unnecessary restrictions, correct errors, and codify longstanding congressional policies in the firearms arena. These bipartisan bills are a vital step to modernize and improve BATFE operations. Of highest importance, S. 941 and H.R. 2296 totally rewrite the system of administrative penalties for licensed dealers, manufacturers and importers of firearms. S. 941 and H.R. 2296 would allow fines or license suspensions for less serious violations, while still allowing license revocation for the kind of serious violations that would block an investigation or put guns in the hands of criminals. This will help prevent the all-too-common situations where BATFE has revoked licenses for insignificant technical violations -- such as, improper use of abbreviations, or filing records in the wrong order.

For more information on S. 941/H.R. 2296, please click here.

To see if your Senators are a cosponsor of S. 941, please click here.

To see if your Representative is a cosponsor of H.R. 2296, please click here.

• H.R. 197-- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act." This bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that issue permits, a state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. In states that do not issue carry permits, a federal standard would apply. The bill would not create a federal licensing system; it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses.

For more information on H.R. 197, please click here.

To see if your Representative is a cosponsor of H.R. 197, please click here.

• H.R. 442-- The "Veterans' Heritage Firearms Act." This legislation would provide a 90-day amnesty period during which veterans and their family members could register firearms acquired overseas between June 26, 1934, and Oct. 31, 1968, without fear of prosecution. Congress granted a limited amnesty in 1968, but most veterans did not receive enough notice to participate. H.R. 442 would not apply to all firearms brought home by veterans. The only firearms that normally have to be registered at the federal level are those subject to the National Firearms Act (NFA). More common trophies, such as bolt-action rifles or semi-automatic pistols, need not be registered. Therefore, H.R. 442's proposed amnesty would only apply to machineguns and other NFA firearms. (It also would not apply to "destructive devices" such as bombs and grenades.)

For more information on H.R. 442, please click here.

To see if your Representative is a cosponsor of H.R. 442, please click here.

• H.R. 1074 -- "The Firearms Interstate Commerce Reform Act." This bill would remove several antiquated and unnecessary restrictions imposed on interstate firearms business since 1968. The bill would update certain procedures applicable to commerce in firearms and remove certain Federal restrictions on interstate firearms transactions.

For more information on H.R. 1074, please click here.

To see if your Representative is a cosponsor of H.R. 1074, please click here.
Again, please contact your U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators and urge them to cosponsor and support these measures. For additional information on these bills, please visit www.NRAILA.org.

 

[Rich219]

Hopefully these go nowhere. NY needs to wake up.

 

[Yo Mama]

Dates on these bills looked like they already passed?

 

[Texshooter]

I just do not understand how these weapons manufacturers continue to stay in states (thus providing jobs, tax base, etc.) when those same states continue to do things to try and put them out of business.

Insanity

 

[toivo]

These bills passed the Assembly--they always do, due to the Democratic majority there. They always get defeated in the Senate. But right now, the New York State Senate is deadlocked in a leadership struggle. There was a new, razor-thin Democratic majority this session, but two Senators jumped ship to the Republicans, then one went back, and it's now 31-31 with no clear leadership.

If they don't settle it soon, the Gov will call a special session and make them stay after the official end-of-session until they settle it. Right now, it's a circus and nothing's getting done. Which is just as well, IMO.

The New York State Legislature has always been a goat rodeo. It couldn't really get much worse.

 

[GRIZ22]

Micro stamping is like maintaining a round from every gun that is manufactured. Sounded like a good idea but didn't Md. try it at a cost of millions of dollars and has not been useful in solving any shooting cases.

I saw an article a few years ago where the MDSP were asking the state legislature to repeal the microstamping law. MDSP said it hadn't solved one crime and was costing them several million dollars a year to maintain.

Apparently the MDSP wanted to spend the money for some other wild and crazy idea like catching criminals.

 

[BigNYMini]

All we need now is for the criminals to register their "stolen" firearms like the good little boy scouts they aspire to be and microstamping should work famously .

 

[billwiese]

I hope you have some bright NRA/NYSRA leg. liaisons, and not just 'jhardworking volunteers'.

You need a friendly (or even publicly 'unfriendly') party to mark up that bill such that, even if it passes, it's unimplementable. The best way to do that is to ensure that proprietary or licensed technology is not used and that the (say) AG must certify it's not in violation of patents/licensing. The writing should be couched such that these amendments are "good government" work in avoiding "sole-source provider".

Sometimes legislators that are 'antigun' by public vote are willing to mark up bills behind the scenes; you can use weird friends in weird places: that's the game you play when in hostile territory.

This strategy worked in California. We have microstamping on the books, but it's essentially unimplementable - and it further depends on our Roster of Not-Unsafe Handguns, which will be going down the drain (the Calguns Foundation and SAF are suing CA DOJ over the Roster).

For CA microstamping to be implemented, the Calif DOJ Firearms Bureau (under our AG) would have to put on its patent examiner hat - and it neither has the budget, nor technical skill, nor inclination, to go up against a whole host of semicondutor-related marking patents and their defenders.


Bill Wiese
San Jose CA

 

[toivo]

Interesting insights, from Bill Wiese--the fact is that the "sole source" of microstamping technology (along with reps from Brady Campaign and New Yorkers Against Gun Violence) has been lobbying New York legislators at closed-door meetings from which NRA and NYSRPA representatives have been barred. The whole thing stinks.