Turtles recipies and questions.

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Hello.

We cuaght a turtle today, and after cleaning it, we were wondering what to make with it. What are some good recipies for turtle soup?

Also, what meat is good? Can I eat the redish meat too?

Thanks!
 
Turtle soup

Glock19--The "classical" turtle soup was made with marine turtles, which are endangered today, and protected. I don't know much about it, except that it was supposed to be so glutinous as to stick the diner's lips together.

Along the US Eastern Seaboard, there is a group of freshwater turtles called "terrapins," which have traditionally been made into a soup, again, of which I know very little. I seem to recall reading that terrapins also are not doing well population-wise. (Could it be because of their deliciousness?) Seems to me the U. of Maryland's nickname is the Terrapins.

Anyhow, turtle soup elsewhere is normally made with snapping turtles, monsters which when mature wouldn't fit into a bushel basket. They inhabit rivers and lakes all over the eastern 2/3 of the US. They have a terrific bite (can easily remove your finger, for example) and can reach almost all the way back over their back to grab you. The only safe way to lift them is by the tail, but keep 'em away from your leg if you do! Snappers don't fit into their shells the way most turtles do, so their only defense is a good offense. And theirs is GOOD--so much so that they are quite fearless. Biggest snapper I've seen recently challenged a car and lost--they do that.

You behead 'em with an axe, and open the shell the same way. All the muscle tissue is edible; there are supposed to be 7 different kinds of meat in a snapper but I never saw much difference. Don't fool with the head after cutting it off--the reflexes and jaw muscles last quite a while--legend has it until sundown.

The liver and if a gravid female, the eggs, are supposed to be edible, also. Have never tried either. I would certainly consider the heart as one more muscle for the soup. Seems to me that almost any other turtle would work just as well for culinary purposes, but the snapper is so much bigger.

Anyhow, you brown the meat in oil, add whatever ingredients you have at hand (I try to use celery and carrots at least but "whatever" for veggies is fine) add rice to sop up the excess liquid, let it cook, and serve it. I wouldn't go overboard with seasonings--the meat's flavor is delicate. If that sounds kind of irreverent and informal, kind of like how chicken soup happens, it's because that's how I make soup. Sorry not to have a formal, repeatable recipie, but this will get you in the ball park, and you can develop the recipie to suit your own taste.

As Julia Child would always say, "Bon appetit!"
 
Last week driving back to DC from Chattanooga I passed at least half a dozen large turtles that had been run over or otherwise killed trying to cross I75 south of Knoxville.

Very strange sight. I had never noticed a dead turtle on the interstate before - but there were a bunch and some were huge! I am assuming they were snappers.
 
Liklihood of snappers

Countertop--The ordinary snapping turtle, Chelydra serpentina , is by far the largest turtle in North America, going up to 50#--EXCEPT for, the alligator snapping turtle, Macroclemys temmincki , which is just more of the same. AST's can get to 200#. They are found up the Miss. River halfway up Illinois, a little up the Ohio, extreme eastern Neb, OK, and TX, all of AR and Louisiana, and in freshwater all along the US Gulf Coast, TX into FL.

I get the chills just thinking about "finding" an AST, while wearing a swimsuit and my own sweet hide! My nature book says it is less aggressive than the snapper. Someone else may check that out.

Female turtles unfortunately cross roads in springtime, looking for just that perfect place for laying eggs. This is fatal to a lot of them, not only snappers. If you see a turtle on the road in spring, it is doubtless a gravid female, and deserves being not run over, at least by those who think about the next generation.

The finest book on the private life of the snapping turtle is a beautifully illustrated book meant for kids, but it's almost poetic, and highly worthy of study by any interested adult. Title: Minn of the Misissippi, by Holling C. Holling.

Anyhow, the huge deceased turtles you observed were almost certainly snappers; couldn't be much else.
 
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Back when they were still in business a restaurant in Wilmington, DE called DiNardo's served a snapping turtle soup. Every time my family went there (mostly for their steamed blue crabs - [homer] mmmm, ... steamed blue crabs [/homer]) I would order the soup. Partially becuase they served it with sherry, and as a kid I got a kick out of that. Very tasty soup. I wish I knew the receipe.
 
I see them trying to cross the road here all the time. One time with an ex of mine she did the "aww, egt out and save it routine, and like an idiot I pulled over, got out the work gloves and went out to get it across the road. The @#% thing of course hissed and did its best to bite me, but daamn the worst part was the SMELL! Damn! I don't philosophically have anything against eating turtle, but damn I had to throw those gloves away, even after leaving them outside for like a week to "air out" the stench was so bad you could smell them from across the lawn. After that little encounter I don't really have a huge urge to eat something that smells that bad... :barf:
 
Scubie02's turtle

Scubie--I suspect if it stank it was a musk turtle, aka stinkpot, Sternotheras odoratus (I swear, I'm not making these names up!)
They have a higher rounded shell than snappers, they smell bad, their disposition is just as ugly, the only good thing is that they don't grow anywhere near as big.

They are found over most of the US east of the Miss. River. (All except the northern 1/2 of the northern row of states.)

You deserve credit for saving Mama Stinkpot, anyhow! So good on you!
 
Be careful cleaning and cooking them. They're not exactly the cleanest critters.
 
I have a very good but involved recipe for turtle soup at home. If my old brain can remember I’ll bring and post this evening when I get back here at work. Female turtles like hens are born with all the eggs they will ever lay. The eggs move through the body to be laid as they get fertilized. Turtle eggs are indeed good to eat. Those that are still in a yoke state can be put in the soup. Those that are in the leathery white shell (they look like ping-pong balls, feel like them too) can be boiled. The yoke will get firm but the white stays liquid and clear. The yoke is very grainy almost sandy. They have a strong fishy taste not unlike anchovies. We would eat them by pricking a hole in the shell and with a suck, squeeze the whole contents would end up in your mouth. I always liked them still do. I’m sure we have all heard the tails of the gas generated by beer and pickled eggs, is nothing to the gas produced by turtle eggs. It is down right toxic. It has a kill radius bigger than 40MM HE rounds and those that aren’t killed are reduced to drooling cabbages. :what:
 
smokey--could be it was some other kind--I just assumed snapper by its size and the fact that I thought it was mostly what was around (it was probably a foot and a half wide or so) mostly. Yeah, I still got it across the road so it lived to snap at someone else another day haha. Hate to see anything killed for no reason on a highway. I see alot of them with thick layers of something green appearing to be growing on the shells.
 
I actually carry a large stick in my truck just for removing snappers from roadways. My wife thinks I'm nuts for it, but they really are dinosaurs. And there's alot of dimwits who think it's cool to run over a reptile that can't hardly get out of it's own way on pavement.

My crazy uncle Bill used to make turtle soup. Good stuff. He used to wander around in the swamps with a gaff, and swear on my mother, would step on the turtle and then gaff away. Like I said, he's crazy.
 
Soup?? When I was younger when we caught them they were cut up, breaded and fried just like chicken or pork. I knew some people that used jugs with baited chunks of old beef under them in ponds. Others walked the banks with a long pole with a hook on one end and a spike on the other. Used the spike to feel them in the mud near the banks then yank them out with the hook. Although I saw it done I could never get the hang of it.
 
EXCEPT for, the alligator snapping turtle, Macroclemys temmincki , which is just more of the same. AST's can get to 200#
I've seen one in the wild.

When I lived in Tn, we had one cruise through our yard. I was about 9, but this thing looked like it was 2' tall and nearly 3' across. It had a spikey looking tail and a very bumpy, armored shell. It was truly a monster.

When I lived in NC (before the Tn episode), we used to play a local forest that was full of snappers (lots of small streams and bogs). Luckily, none of us ever got bit.

Chris
 
Not a stinkpot!

Scubie02--18" across--GOTTA be a snapper, nothing else that size would cross the road. Alligator snapper would have to be bigger to be an adult female. Snappers often do get a growth of some kind on their shells commonly but I don't know what it is--algae or some pondweed I suppose.

Scubie02 and Smokemaker both--again, good on you for helping females across the road--Oh, I meant turtle females! :D I do that too; there are nitwits hereabouts that seem to think it's sport to run down anything smaller than their tires: Dazzled raccoons, idiot 'possums, the neighbor's cat, dumb bunnies, and of course, slow turtles. :fire: But it would surprise me if my area has a monopoly. On nitwits, I mean. I bet those are the same SOB's who give us all a bad name by shooting highway signs!

Crawfish--Interesting way of eating turtle eggs!

Smokemaker & Bakert--I've heard of feeling for and then hooking snappers out of the water. I would cook it for someone who would show me.

Mtnbker--I envy your experiences! Would LOVE to see an AST!
 
Guys,
That's some great info!

I often ate them as a kid. However, not sure how my folks ever did them up. Used to catch them with clorox bottles, a treble hook and chicken gixxards for bait. Needed to get them out of our pond.

They were always tastey in soup!

Sorry that I don't have any real help, but will say that they are worth cleaning and eating!
 
Smokey Joe, what does your literature say about the status of the assorted snapping turtles, with regard to frequency and protected status, etc? I thought I'd heard that some of them were protected/endangered.

And what are these turtles that get into our local (N Texas) fishing ponds and creeks? Up to a foot across, very prolific. They're hard on the fish, but they're excellent .22 targets. Often wondered if the bigger ones would be worth eating.
 
Turtle populations

Matt G--Sorry to say I have nothing on current population figures or protection of turtles.

On yr. N. TX turtles--The False Map Turtle gets into extreme NE TX, and it can get up to 10" in length. However the adults are vetgetarian, so not hard on fish.

The only other turtle that gets to a foot in length, and inhabits TX, is the snapping turtle, which is found all over the state (in the wet places!) except for the extreme south and the extreme west. And it of course would look on a fish pond as a lovely smorgasbord. And the larger ones would be quite worth the eating of course. By yr description I suspect that is what you are dealing with.

Your State Dept of Public Natural Resources, should have figures on population, as well as regs for legal harvest. Some states do require a license; don't know abt. TX.

Here's a lovely thought: I understand that skunks love turtle eggs, so to decrease the snappers, increase the skunks!

Edited to add--Looking over this answer, I can't help thinking: "Geez that sounds bureaucratic!" Sorry it's the best I can do on short notice.
 
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My step sister has a simple recipe.
Diced turtle with cream of mushroom soup.
Maybe it's cheating but it's damn good
 
I am fortunate enough to have lived in a time when gopher tortoises were so plentiful they were almost a nuisance.

They are very tasty and way easier to catch
 
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