Uberti Cattleman percussion?

[AbitNutz]

I was just made aware of this gun. It's a Colt SAA with a percussion cylinder. It has a loading gate and ejector rod housing. I don't know if there is actually an ejector rod in the housing. It would have no purpose at all.

As goofy as this whole idea would appear. I have heard that these are really terrific pistols. I would imagine they're not legal for SAS. I'm looking to start competing in Frontiersman with my ROA and the Uberti 1858 I just ordered. Both will be on their way to Goon's to be made as bulletproof as possible for shooting in competition.

Does anyone have one of these 1873 Cattleman percussion revolvers? I'm intrigued....

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

I would imagine they're not legal for SAS.

Howdy

You imagined correctly. The 1873 Uberti percussion revolver is specifically not allowed as a Main Match revolver in the SASS Cap & Ball categories.

This gun was developed for the European market, where cartridge revolvers are illegal to own in some countries. It is specifically designed so it cannot be converted to firing cartridges, the cylinder chambers and the firing pin are off center so a cartridge cylinder cannot be successfully fitted to it.

There are really much better choices for Cap & Ball revolvers if you want to shoot Cowboy, your ROA and 1858 Remington being among them.

 

[CraigC]

^^^ What he said.

 

[dickydalton]

I was just made aware of this gun. It's a Colt SAA with a percussion cylinder. It has a loading gate and ejector rod housing. I don't know if there is actually an ejector rod in the housing. It would have no purpose at all.

As goofy as this whole idea would appear. I have heard that these are really terrific pistols. I would imagine they're not legal for SAS. I'm looking to start competing in Frontiersman with my ROA and the Uberti 1858 I just ordered. Both will be on their way to Goon's to be made as bulletproof as possible for shooting in competition.

Does anyone have one of these 1873 Cattleman percussion revolvers? I'm intrigued....

washbuster at GunslingersGulch has one that's been Goonerized.

 

[Fingers McGee]

^^^ What he said.

Ditto

 

[45 Dragoon]

They are nice guns!
It's a Cattleman that houses a C&B cylinder. They can be made to run rings around an El Patron (or any of the other "factory tuned" offerings from Italy)!!

I'm "fixing" one for Brushhippie right now!

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
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[AbitNutz]

Mike, this is Al. As soon as you get my ROA and Uberti Remi 1858 done. I'll be sending you a Cattleman...I can't help it...you talked me into it.

 

[45 Dragoon]

Hey Al!!
If I would have read all of your post, I would have known it was you! My mistake.
That said . . . . . . Ok!! Lol!!

Mike
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[Dorset_Dave]

I have one and it's brilliant! They group really well, if not a bit low (10" off at 25 yards!) Our club chairman is a fantastic shot and he prefers it to his ROA! As I live in the UK it's as close to a SAA as I will ever get :-( . The only thing I've been told is not to load them up to hot as it can damage the ratchet on the back of the cylinder(?). I load 18gr of 777, cork wad, with a lee 220gr conical on top for target work. Again I was informed by the local "expert" that the rifling twist on the gun was better for conicals and not RB.

If anyone more knowledgeable would like to offer advice I'm always happy to learn

Thanks

Dave

 

[45 Dragoon]

Dave,
I don't know how much powder you can put in the chambers and since the '73 doesn't have a bearing for the cylinder on the recoil shield (like o.t. C&B revolvers have), that is probably good advice. Since the '73 is a cartridge design, the head of the case protects the ratchet. That is one of the revolver design differences between C&B and cartridge guns.

Mike
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[45 Dragoon]

After talking with one of my "Research Department" associates (lol). We came to the conclusion that there may not be enough room for enough powder to do any damage. Of course, the hardness could vary enough so that while some may not have an issue, some might. Keep an eye on the frame for any ratchet imprinting and/or the ratchet for any deformation.

Thanks Washbuster!!

Mike
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[Dorset_Dave]

I think about 25gr with conical and wad is getting close to full. I co worker suggested machining a thin plate to sit on the rear of the frame behind the cylinder to absorb the recoil. I might look into it in the future but for now I'm just loving shooting the thing!

Thanks

Dave

 

[AbitNutz]

This is going to call for a real change of behavior on my part, close to a frontal lobotomy. Ok, a second frontal lobotomy. I have had the OEM cylinder on my ROA deepened by Clements as well as a Classicballitix cylinder that has even a bit more capacity than that.

I love to load the ROA with 45gr of T7....with a 210gr BigLube HP bullet. Yes, HP. I had Eric at Hollow Point Mold tune the BigLube 6 cavity mold to spit out 200gr hollow points. I even tried 4F Swiss to see if I could turn the wick up even more. Nope, Triple Seven still is the mostest. I like having a gun that is blowup proof. When this thing goes off you know it. Heck, everybody knows it.
And....the stupid thing doesn't lead and is STILL accurate no matter what I shoot.

Staying within the realm of sense with the new Remmie I have coming and the Cattleman are going to take some doing.

 

[45 Dragoon]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

I like yer thought process!!! (Lobotomy or not!!!!)

Mike
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[Dorset_Dave]

Thanks for all the advice Mike, I might up the powder charge a little to see what gives the best accuracy and POI. I just didn't want to beat up such a pretty gun by being a bit over eager on the powder!

At least light loads are cheap ;-)

Thanks

Dave