US SB2068 - Total Ban On All Non 'Personalized' Guns Within 3 years

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The text for this bill came in today and what a piece of garbage this thing is:

'Beginning on the date that is 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may manufacture in the United States a handgun that is not a personalized handgun.'

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'Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized hand gun or a retrofitted personalized handgun.'

So by 3 after passed all handguns that aren't personalized would be outlawed .... talk about a gun ban!

https://amgoa.org/Proposed-Federal-Gun-Legislation-SB2068/Federal-Law/515
 
Wow, as is always being said here, any legislation can be introduced, doesn't mean it will pass. But wow is that scary just reading. The first of many attempts I'm sure, time for more people to start setting up home based manufacturing capabilities.

Also, maybe someone more informed on the legal process can tell us if we should start contacting our reps now or wait until it gets to a certain point in the legislative process.
 
Another Democrat dream, smart-guns for all! Sounds more like a nightmare to me.

From what I read, it would not forbid possessions or carry of non-smart guns if they were purchased before the date. Still a total BS law though. Here's hoping it gets crushed, and I don't believe it has a hope in hell in the House.

(Edited: Sorry about the innopropriate language everyone!)
 
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After further reading this bill would suck up 2 BILLION dollars to pay manufacturers to do these conversions .... like that money couldn't be used elsewhere.
 
egyas said:
Smart-guns for all! From what I read, it would not forbid possessions or carry of non-smart guns if they were purchased before the date. Still a total BS law though. Here's hoping it gets crushed, and I don't believe it has a hope in hell in the House.
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Yes but did you read the part about any non-personalized gun not being able to be sold after 3 years?
 
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I mean if you look hard enough you can find all kinds of crazy legislation that dies in committee every congressional session. This goes nowhere and probably won't even be reported on any major news network.

The only thing remotely newsworthy about this bill is that one of its sponsors, Elizabeth Warren is a darkhorse for the democratic nomination in 2016.
 
dc dalton said:
Yes but did you read the part about any non-personalized gun not being able to be sold after 3 years?
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Yes, and I'm not saying that I am in favor of this IN ANY WAY. Just pointing out that those us us with them currently would be able to hold onto them,. For now at least.
 
This isn't science fiction, idle gossip or rumor mongering. New Jersey ALREADY has this signed into law since 2002. And the law states that when smart guns become commercially viable, it kicks in a provision that 3 years from that date....all guns sold in NJ will have to be 'smartguns'. That means "dumb guns" can no longer be sold or transferred once the law fully goes into effect.

Now how many of us were even aware that such a law already passed here in the United States, some 12 years ago?

Here is a discussion on it.....


"Weinberg writes the AG to activate the smart gun law"

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index....o-activate-the-smart-gun-law/?hl=+smart++guns


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"So the Armatix IP1, a smart gun that requires you to wear a goofy watch, is now for sale in California.

Weinberg now writes the AG to activate NJ's smart gun law, because this gun is for sale.

Chances that the AG will do it? I don't know.

But it's 2014, and if it's certified, you have until 2017 to get all the "dumb" guns you want. "


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egyas said:
Yes, and I'm not saying that I am in favor of this IN ANY WAY. Just pointing out that those us us with them currently would be able to hold onto them,. For now at least.
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Not to get too off topic but that mindset right there is the one a lot of people used to have, they're not coming for MY gun right now so I'm not too worried about it.
We need to make sure that we all stand together to fight ANY further restrictions.
 
dc dalton said:
... 'Beginning on the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, no person may distribute in commerce any handgun that is not a personalized hand gun or a retrofitted personalized handgun.'

So by 3 after passed all handguns that aren't personalized would be outlawed .... talk about a gun ban!

https://amgoa.org/Proposed-Federal-Gun-Legislation-SB2068/Federal-Law/515
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I think it means "outlawed" (as in unable to be possessed); just unable to be "sold" (i.e. "distribute in commerce"). There was no mention of inherited or gifted. But overall still a bad bad bad law.

Just when the big manufacturers had a way to squeeze CA by not selling there at all including law enforcement, someone comes along and tries this.

chuck
 
It's not mentioned in any of the material posted in this thread, but I'm betting that LEO and military are exempt. I think that all political security staff should be the first ones REQUIRED to use these firearms.
 
Markey is running for re-election this year. He is pandering to his anti-gun constituents back home in MA. This bill stands a snowball in hades chance of becoming law.
 
tomrkba said:
What is their legal justification for this bill?
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I believe Markey wanted free publicity in this re-election year. So he decided to take one of New Jersey's worst gun laws (on the books since 2002) and decided to introduce this law on a Federal level. He would be pandering to his constituents (like the other poster said) and he will be pandering to the anti-gun crowd as well.

Well Markey's plan to get free publicity worked. Here we are here in different parts of the country on a pro-gun site talking about a politician we barely recognize. He really isn't a household name like DiFi or Bloomberg.

Why did Markey look to NJ in the first place? Simple, after all Massachusetts FID card scheme was developed in NJ first and all bad gun laws and anti-gun politicians seem to come out of NJ. It was just a matter of finding the most preposterous anti-gun law in NJ, adopting it and then co-sponsoring it on the Federal Level in order to get his name in the papers without spending a dime of his own re-election money.


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Just like history is full of wars that everyone KNEW wouldn't happen, Bills can be passed that everyone KNEW wouldn't pass. We don't have to get our blood pressure up over every Bill but let's remember to remain ever vigilant and keep an eye on each one that could affect our Freedom.
 
Ryanxia said:
Not to get too off topic but that mindset right there is the one a lot of people used to have, they're not coming for MY gun right now so I'm not too worried about it.
We need to make sure that we all stand together to fight ANY further restrictions.
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We are in complete agreement. I don't accept any restrictions. I was only trying to point out what I believe was an inaccuracy int he OPs wording.
 
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