Va-alert: Vcdl Update 10/9/07

[W.E.G.]

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From: Jim Snyder -- vp vcdl
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:36 PM
Subject: VA-ALERT: VCDL UPDATE 10/9/07

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Complete report at http://www.geocities.com/rkba2da/vcdl20071010.pdf


VCDL UPDATE 10/9/07 - Defending your right to defend yourself

1. Gloucester county weighs ban on firing, hunting in some areas
2. Gloucester residents: Shooting zone discussions should include us
3. FOIA on open carry incident in Arlington
4. Self-described RINO, Devolites Davis, brags she is the anti-gun
candidate
5. RTD on ice cream shop shooting charges
6. RTD letter: We're on our own
7. Virginia Tech releases crime statistics for 2006
8. LTE: Virginia Tech panel displayed no gun sense
9. Virginia Tech gets air raid siren
10. JMU students receive 'timely' email about possible threat--three
days later!
11. Daily Press: Guns on campus 'very, very stupid'
12. (TN) Who needs a gun on campus?
13. New militia group at Georgetown Law Center
14. NRA: The untold story of gun confiscation after Katrina
15. (GA) Gun buy-back 'fruitful'? Or full of fruits?
16. (MD) Baltimore to track 'gun offenders'
17. 'Progressive' anti: Let's increase gun violence
18. (CA) Women take aim - Growing numbers pick up guns for security, for fun
19. Fred Thompson on the Second Amendment
20. Who needs a gun to combat government oppression?
21. SmallArmz.info: 'All things RKBA'
22. Gun bloggers: People of the Gun
23. Gun signs for your home or office
24. (UK) Correction: Swords NOT banned in the UK
25. Gun shows and events!

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Complete report at http://www.geocities.com/rkba2da/vcdl20071010.pdf

 

[Robert Hairless]

"Duck and Cover" lives again!

Does anyone else remember "Duck and Cover," the 1951 campaign by the U.S. Civil Defense Department?

It taught school children how to survive an Atom Bomb attack. No joke. You might think that there is no way to escape unharmed if an enemy drops a nuclear bomb right next to you, but that's not true according to the federal government and the schools throughout this country.

Here's how you do it.

The government installed lots of sirens in all major cities, just like Virginia Tech has just done on its campus.

The sirens would sound when there was a nuclear attack, just as they will sound on Virginia Tech's campus if there's a mortal threat to students and faculty there.

Then all a kid had to do was duck down and cover his head with his arms or a coat or just about anything, and the kid would survive the bomb unharmed.

(Some of you might recall that thousands of people did not survive the nuclear bombs dropped on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and others were mortally affected years later, but it could be that they didn't duck and cover, huh.)

Now Virginia Tech's version of "Duck and Cover" is that people on its campus are supposed to duck into a place where they can get more information on the nature of the immediate threat. The threat could be severe weather, for example, or a chemical spill or a lunatic shooting up defenseless students, faculty, employees, and visitors.

This is good thinking on the part of Virginia Tech's administration, the same good thinking that left students and faculty unable to defend themselves against Cho earlier this year.

If a student hears the siren and wonders if someone is murdering his classmates he can go to his computer, log onto their system, and find out that it's happening. He won't have to look at their bodies. He can also determine whether a guy shooting at him is really an officially declared bad guy simply by checking the Virginia Tech system. He won't have to figure it out for himself when the bullet hits him.

Of course if the siren turns out to be alerting the campus to severe weather instead, the student who doesn't know enough to come in out of the rain would be told to do so. Once he came in out of the rain, that is.

And if the siren sounds because of a chemical spill, the student will know it's not because a lunatic is about to murder him because it's not because a lunatic is not about to murder him because it's not a severe weather alert either or whatever it means.

The people of Virginia, especially the parents of students at Virginia Tech, should sleep easier because its administration is applying the same technique used to keep their grandparents safe during a nuclear bomb attack in the 1950s: duck and cover.

For the record, not one kid was ever killed during a nuclear bomb attack on this country during the 1950s. Not one! It could be because there wasn't a nuclear bomb attack on the United States then. But couldn't it also be because the way to survive one is to duck down and cover your head just like a turtle? Sure it could! Just ask the President of Virginia Tech and he'll assure you that it can work.

What the following document (published in the VCDL newsletter above) clearly reveals is that Virginia Tech's administration is even stupider than it appeared to have been when it denied adult CWP holders the means to defend themselves on its campus.

What remains to be seen is whether Virginia's legislators and the parents of students at Virgina Tech are stupid enough to believe that such measures substitute for being able to defend oneself. My bet is that they are that dumb.

Most people have forgotten "Duck and Cover." It's back again!

Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:14:25 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: Multiple recipients
Subject: Campus Warning Siren System to be tested on Monday, Oct. 8
Thursday, Oct. 4, 2007

Virginia Tech will test its outdoor Campus Warning Siren System on
Monday, Oct. 8. The test will occur at 10 a.m.

The system will sound like an ultra-loud, long-lasting, deeper-sounding
police or rescue-squad siren, followed by an audible announcement.
During this test, the audible message will be, "This is a test of the
Virginia Tech Campus Warning Siren System."

When activated, as in this test, the siren tone and audible message will
last less than a minute. It can be heard across campus as well as in
sections of the Town of Blacksburg adjacent to the university. The siren
tones are not intended to penetrate into building interiors.

Virginia Tech Police has the authority to activate the Virginia Tech
Campus Warning Siren System if events occur that could potentially
endanger people who are outdoors. The system could be used to alert the
campus community in instances of a severe weather event, criminal
activity, large chemical spills, or any other emergency situation that
calls for immediate action.

When the siren is heard, individuals should immediately go inside and
consult a source of information. Those information sources are:

==> Information posted to the university homepage (www.vt.edu) and
Virginia Tech News page (www.vtnews.vt.edu).
==> Information sent using campus-wide e-mail.
==> Information sent using VT Alerts (www.alerts.vt.edu).
==> Information broadcast on WVTF-FM 89.1 and other public media outlets.
==> Information record on the university hotline (231-6668).

Questions and comments should be directed to John Beach, director of
physical plant operations and interim director of emergency management
at [email protected].

 

[Standing Wolf]

What remains to be seen is whether Virginia's legislators and the parents of students at Virgina Tech are stupid enough to believe that such measures substitute for being able to defend oneself. My bet is that they are that dumb.
Most people have forgotten "Duck and Cover." It's back again!

Thanks, Robert Hairless!

I had, indeed, forgotten the duck and cover approach to nuclear warfare. It was actually somewhat comforting to a kid of about ten. I sincerely believed my school desk would protect me from the blast, after which, of course, I'd be able to run home and hide in the basement, where my mother had set jars of water and some canned goods on shelves. We'd show those darned Russians!

 

[Grey54956]

When the siren is heard, individuals should immediately go inside and
consult a source of information. Those information sources are:

Ummmm... didn't all the students die in class buildings? I am pretty certain that no one actually died outside. So, if a shooter is in a building, won't this just flush a whole bunch of potential victims his/her way?

Maybe they need another siren to tell students to leave all school buildings. Or, maybe one to alert them that they should all pick up whatever is available and fight like hell with anyone who is a active hazard... instead of heroically playing dead and hoping that they don't get shot again.