VFW in Marcellus wants ATF to give back machine gun

[cortez kid]

What a shame it is when the Govt. ditates to destroy items that were used in the greatest battle in the history of the world. This weapon has been around for decades with no incident. The big "G" finds out then, ooooh baaad. It's an insult to the men and women of the greatest generation. Now the big push for seat belt usage(of which I agree). Does this mean that we have to cut our 57 chevys half and weld the doors because they didn't come with them?

 

[2nd Amendment]

let's not forget possession of an unregistered machine gun is a felony......?

Oh like anybody with any sense gives a damn. F-Troop once again needs to sit the hell down and shut the hell up and leave normal people alone.

 

[dustind]

The ATF looking for illegal firearms dealings and illegal possession of firearms is not just a waste of our tax dollars, it is a violations of our rights.

Unless they can find some real criminals to go after they should be severally downsized.

 

[unixguy]

Yet another impetus for a NFA amnesty!

Bleh. I think you should have spelled it r-e-p-e-a-l.

 

[TheOtherOne]

http://www.mlive.com/news/kzgazette/index.ssf?/base/news-13/1116948079122140.xml

The veterans complained about the ATF raid on the museum, in which four ATF agents and a state trooper came to seize the gun.

"This is how you would treat terrorist cells," Breseman, who identified himself as a "PDF: Pretty Dumb Farmer," told Hady. "That violated our dignity. And why did you describe it as concealed?"

"That was just legal talk for 'located,'" Hady said. "And if I believed it was a terror cell, we would have brought 40 agents. Five is a small number."


Ahhh... Concealed = Located

Legal Talk? More like sounds scarier for the evening news.

 

[Hypnogator]

This reminds me of the great ATF raid on the VFW post in Keosauqua, Iowa, where I grew up. Used to go to Boy Scout meetings in the VFW post. They had two Colt 1895 machine guns on tripods and an old Lewis gun, all of which had been rendered inoperable.

Well, in the early Clinton years, the ATF conducted a "raid" on the unoccupied building, with a dozen teams in full armor, automatic weapons, etc. I think they later didn't send that many to the Branch Davidian compound. Anywho, folks around home thought it was the biggest joke they ever heard of.

It took the intervention of our state senator to get the weapons returned, even though there was no law broken by the VFW having them.

Not one of ATF's prouder moments. At least no women and children were killed in that raid!

 

[RevDisk]

Well, in the early Clinton years, the ATF conducted a "raid" on the unoccupied building, with a dozen teams in full armor, automatic weapons, etc. I think they later didn't send that many to the Branch Davidian compound. Anywho, folks around home thought it was the biggest joke they ever heard of.

The ATF should have been praying to every God or Gods in thanks that the VFW was empty. Imagine a Waco style siege against people that actually knew how to shoot.

 

[hifi]

"How many man-hours and at what monetary value did this operation cost?" Breseman asked. "Wouldn't it have been much better for one officer to approach us and tell us to make this weapon completely inoperable?

"I could have taken it to my shop and welded the barrel and breech shut, which would have taken about 15 minutes."

He's willing to destroy this historical artifact himself. Sounds like the ATF wanted the honor though.

 

[Stan]

Wonderful. A piece of history must be destroyed because of a series of stupid laws written to keep anti-alcohol agents employed after the end of prohibition.

+1

 

[pete f]

I just want to know who squealed.

and Who cares if the Maxim still works, BFD, as in BIG DEAL, How about we get a Federal Government that instead of effing around with a group of peace defending soldiers who came home and brought a toy home with them, we actually use this level of effort to stop the thousands of people illegally crossing the border everyday. let see, for 85 years this gun has remained a memorial to the effort of thousands of american soldiers who bailed England, and France out of a war they did not want. So all of a sudden this gun is now a threat? grow up and get a life.

 

[cracked butt]

People are getting all bent out of shape without knowing the facts.

What if the 'illegal gun dealings' happened to be stolen property that was sold to the VFW, that belonged to someone else? If someone stole your guns, wouldn't you want to get them back?

If everyone else can make assumptions and rationaliazions, I can too.

 

[toivo]

I think that if they investigate and find the gun wasn't stolen from anybody, they should make it inoperable and give it back to the VFW. I say inoperable because (a) if it's on display in a glass case it doesn't need to be shootable, and (b) if it's in shootable condition, it should be securely stored--hard to do when it's on display.

I'm wondering if the day will come when we start to see WWI re-enactors. Has anybody heard of anything like that? Maybe the idea of digging all those trenches puts a damper on the idea.

My local VFW has a WWII torpedo on display out in front of the hall. I hope that sucker is deactivated, because it's right out there by the highway. If someone ran off the road and hit it head on, they might just "sink" the VFW hall.

On the "historical" theme, has anyone heard the story of the guy who held up a bank with a black powder .44 revolver? (Happened in Rochester, NY in 1992.) Now there's a bank robber with a sense of history. Wonder if he planned to get away on horseback...

 

[cracked butt]

On the "historical" theme, has anyone heard the story of the guy who held up a bank with a black powder .44 revolver? (Happened in Rochester, NY in 1992.) Now there's a bank robber with a sense of history. Wonder if he planned to get away on horseback...

Or... maybe he was a felon and wasn't able to buy a firearm but could buy a black powder gun.