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WA State Alien Firearms Licenses Part II

Discussion in 'Activism' started by MD_Willington, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. waverace

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    This is good , Its moving pretty quick , did a random check on other bills introduced this year , most havent even got a judi date yet .
    Keep up the good work guys .
     
  2. Gungnir

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    Hey we're just doing the same as you guys and keeping our legislators informed.

    The only other thing is we're keeping you guys informed so you can keep the legislators informed.

    Group effort.
     
  3. waverace

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    From what I can see there are 3 hearings that the bill has to go through in the house , following that it must go through the same process in the senate , then it can be signed by both houses and passed to the governor for signing , I am finding it difficult to work out exactly where in the chain it is but I think this is the second reading in the house of representatives that is coming up , so one more here after that then off to the senate .
    This is going to take a while but its looking good so far .
     
  4. MD_Willington

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    I just hope this goes the distance, if it does, then my wife will not have to get a license too... Yep, she's an LPR as well!
     
  5. MD_Willington

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    Tomorrow is another big day... hope it goes well.
     
  6. esteli

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    Been lurking on this forum forever regarding this issue, and I just found out today that the licenses have been reinstated. I've already called the DOL to request my application.

    I'm watching this bill like a hawk. I had the privilege of talking to Sen. Schoessler about the issue late last fall and he was very sincere about the issue of gun rights, and I couldn't be more proud to have him as my representative. I also got to talk to Rep. Moeller.

    I'll certainly be contacting them about it. You guys have been amazing at keeping at this and I'm right there with you.

    Even if the suspense is killing me.
     
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  7. MD_Willington

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    esteli, where about are you located?

    I have copies of the form if you're near Pullman WA, I can get you a copy...
     
  8. esteli

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    I'm actually in Pullman. I'd love a copy of that application!

    -Elizabeth
     
  9. Steely

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    Any news come through yet?
     
  10. esteli

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    It was in a hearing on General Government Appropriations, which determines the financial impact of bills. You can see http://apps.leg.wa.gov/cmd/default.aspx?cid=appg
    Click 2/10/2009 8:00AM>Public Hearing>1052
    It says "not heard."
    We'll see where it goes from here.
     
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  11. waverace

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    so why did it not get heard ?, it was first on the list , so not as if they didnt have time )-:
     
  12. MD_Willington

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    Well if it goes down in flames, we still have the lawsuit, but I don't want the issue to be one of those "put all your eggs in one basket" deals...
     
  13. Gungnir

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    Dunno, Sent mail to Jim Moeller to see what he knows since it's his bill.

    When I get a response I'll post here.

    thanks
     
  14. Gungnir

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    Service with a smile :)

    Hi Mark:
    I don't know what to say about the web site but the bill was heard in Government Ops Appropriations as scheduled. There was one small concern raised by the Dept of Fish and Wildlife that will be taken care of with an amendment.

    Thanks for your interest!
    -jm
     
  15. Gungnir

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    Oh and in under 5 minutes
     
  16. MD_Willington

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    WoW.

    That was PDQ!

    Dept of Fish and Wildlife eh... wonder what they want to stick their nose into it for..?
     
  17. Gungnir

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    Yeah, I told him I was point contact on this for Work too...
    Don't know how many LPR/NIA's there are there but its a few 1000 :D

    I wonder whether the Dept F&W are trying to incorporate the hunting clause from the SB from a while back. Or just sticking their noses in or maybe Aliens are considered wildlife :)
     
  18. waverace

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    Dangerous game (-:
     
  19. furball

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    Hope this become law soon

    I am an LPR moving to WA from TN at the end of month because of a new job. I was planning to sell my guns. But if this pass, I just need some friends to hold them for me for a while. Let's hope everything go smoothly. MD_Willington and all guys here, thank you so much for the effort.
     
  20. Gungnir

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    Well, you can apply for an AFL now at least; ideally we want the law repealed, but if you have an AFL you can at least keep your guns.
     
  21. zaharia

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    I'm a little confused. Gungnir, you say that you can at least apply for an AFL now that the applications are going out again, but isn't the FBI still refusing to supply the background check to the DOL?
     
  22. Gungnir

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    Yes, the were refusing, but the NRA/SAF got an injunction against the DOL and they've enforced reissuing these. Which means the case that the SAF/NRA has has some significant legal merit for Constitutional infringement.

    HB1052 is also going through the state legislature at this time, so hopefully this will repeal RCW 9.41.170 too. But if not then the SAF/NRA lawsuit against WA has a good possibility of declaring the RCW as unconstitutional.
     
  23. zaharia

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    Thanks for the response. So, just filling out the form and sending it in will still result in a refusal to issue an AFL because they still can't get an FBI background check currently?
    So, still best to wait on applying for the AFL?
     
  24. MD_Willington

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    Okay, so I'm no lawyer, but because of the signed injunction, DOL shall "promptly issue the license".

    I figure it would work like this:

    WSP has 30 days to do the BG check from when they get the request to check if you have a WA State drivers license, 60 days if you do not.

    Then WSP can just say over the phone to the DOL, "so and so is good to go", WSP just can't hand over the results of the check to DOL because that ain't allowed.

    Why isn't sharing info allowed... seems pretty silly to me...



    PS

    esteli, I have a copy of the app if you need it, we can meet in Pullman if you'd like.
     
  25. zaharia

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    So, does that mean that the FBI is completely out of the picture regarding background checks now on AFL applications and WSP background check is all they need at the DOL?
     
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