WA State Alien Firearms Licenses

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Hi Everybody,

I am a resident alien in the WA state and egar to apply for the AFL. Had been following this thread since past long time.

However i did not follow some parts of the engrossed bill, it says..

"Nonimmigrant aliens must also
possess a permit for temporary importation of firearms and ammunition" so does that mean all non-immigrant aliens who are not practising for Olympics are also required to have the firearms importation permits?

e.g. What will happen in my case?, i don't practise for Olympics but take part in local competitions organized by local clubs.

Thanks in advance.
 
I don't have my Green card yet, so that means i am a non-immigrant alien and just need an AFL correct ? but in order to obtain an AFL do we need the firearm importation permit ?

i am sorry i am little confused here.
 
I just got am email from Deborah Eddy that she’d support the bill as well if it comes to the house.
 
Please Help With This!

Here is your (and mine) mission if you choose to complete it; Contact EACH or YOUR County Sheriff and ask for them to support the transferring of Alien Firearms License ownership from the Department of Licensing to The County Sheriff's Office, just like the Washington State Concealed Pistol License is issued by their office as is set forth in SB 5456 - 2007-08.

www.co.adams.wa.us/sheriff/default.aspx
www.co.asotin.wa.us/sheriff_home.htm
www.co.benton.wa.us/html/sheriff.htm
www.co.chelan.wa.us/so/so_main.htm
www.clallam.net/sheriff
www.co.clark.wa.us/sheriff/index.html
www.columbiacosheriff.com
www.co.cowlitz.wa.us/sheriff
www.douglascountysheriff.org
www.co.grant.wa.us/sub_Sheriff/index.htm
www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/index.htm
www.islandcounty.net/sheriff
www.co.jefferson.wa.us/sheriff/default.asp
www.metrokc.gov/sheriff
www.kitsapgov.com/sheriff
www.co.kittitas.wa.us/sheriff/index.htm
www.klickitatcounty.org/Sheriff
https://fortress.wa.gov/lewisco/home/LC/Sheriff/Default.aspx?lcID=1
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www.okanogansheriff.org
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www.co.pend-oreille.wa.us/sheriff.html
www.co.pierce.wa.us/pc/abtus/ourorg/sheriff/default.htm
www.co.san-juan.wa.us/sheriff/default.asp
www.skagitcounty.net/Common/asp/default.asp?d=Sheriff&c=General&p=main.htm
www.skamaniasheriff.com
www1.co.snohomish.wa.us/Departments/Sheriff/
www.spokanesheriff.org/
www.co.stevens.wa.us/sheriff/index.htm
www.thurstonsheriff.org
www.co.wahkiakum.wa.us/depts/sheriff/index.htm
www.co.walla-walla.wa.us/Departments/sheriff/sheriff.htm
www.whatcomcounty.us/sheriff
www.whitmancounty.org/Sheriff
www.pan.co.yakima.wa.us/sheriff/default.htm



Adams County Sheriff
Doug Barger, Sheriff
210 W. Broadway
Ritzville, WA 99169

Telephone Number:
509-659-1122
Fax Number:
509-659-1724



Asotin County Sheriff’s Office
Sheriff G. K. Bancroft
PO Box 130
Asotin, WA 99402-0069

Phone: (509) 243-4717
Fax: (509) 243-4719


Benton County
Sheriff Larry Taylor
[email protected]

Benton County Sheriff's Office
7122 W. Okanogan Pl., Bldg. A
Kennewick, WA 99336

Business: (509) 735-6555
Fax: (509) 783-5852


Chelan County Sheriff's Office
Mike Harum, Sheriff

Chelan County Sheriff's Office
401 Washington Street, Lower Level 1
Wenatchee, WA 98801

E-mail: Sheriff
@co.chelan.wa.us


Clallam County Sheriff
Our Location/Mailing Address:
223 E. 4th Street, Suite 12
Port Angeles, WA 98362-3015
mailto:[email protected]



Clark County Sheriff's Office:
707 West 13th Street, Vancouver, WA 98660
P.O. Box 410, Vancouver, WA 98666

Main phone: (360) 397-2211
E-mail: [email protected]



Columbia County Sheriff's Office
The Columbia County Sheriff's Office
341 East Main Street
Dayton, Washington 99328

Administration - (509) 382-1100
Fax - (509) 382-4765
[email protected]

Cowlitz County
Sheriff Bill Mahoney
Location--Hall of Justice
312 SW First Ave
Kelso, WA 98626

Phone: (360) 577-3092
Fax: (360) 423-1047
[email protected]



Douglas County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Harvey Gjesdal
110 N.E. 2nd Street Suite 200
East Wenatchee, Wa 98802

(509)884-0941 (509)884-1125
Email the Sheriff [email protected]


Grant County Sheriff’s Office
Sheriff Frank DeTrolio
35 C Street NW
PO Box 37
Ephrata, WA 98823

509-754-2011 extension 468
509-754-2058 fax



Grays Harbor County Sheriff
Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office
PO Box 630
Montesano, WA 98563

Sheriff Michael J.Whelan
(360) 249-3711

Sheriff's Office:
100 W. Broadway, Suite 3
Montesano, WA
(360) 249-3711
(360) 532-3284
1-800-562-8714



Island County Sheriff's Office
Mark C. Brown Sheriff
(360) 678-4422 (North Whidbey)
(360) 321-5113 x7310 (South Whidbey)
(360) 629-4523 x7310 (Camano Island)
(360)679-7371 Fax

Island County, Washington
P.O. Box 5000
Coupeville, WA 98239



Jefferson County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Mike Brasfield:
79 Elkins Road, Port Hadlock
Washington
(360) 385-3831
(FAX 360-379-0521).

[email protected]


King County Sheriffs Office
Sheriff Sue Rahr
[email protected]
King County Courthouse
516 Third Ave
Room W-116
Seattle, WA 98104
206-296-4155



Kitsap County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Steve Boyer

Main Office: Port Orchard
614 Division St, MS-37
Port Orchard WA 98366
(360)337-7101

Silverdale Office
3951 Randall Way
Silverdale WA 98383
(360) 337-7101

Kingston Office
26076 Illinois St
Kingston WA 98346
(360) 297-3575



Kittitas County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Gene Dana
Kittitas County Sheriff
Public Safety Building
205 W 5th AVE
Ellensburg WA 98926

(509) 962-7525
(509) 962-7599 fax
[email protected]


Klickitat County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Rick McComas
205 S Columbus Ave
ms-ch-7, Room 108
Goldendale, WA 98620

Fax: 509 773-6575
Phone: 509 773-4455


Lewis County Sheriff’s Office
Sheriff Steve Mansfield

345 West Main Street,
Chehalis, WA 98532-1900

Main Office: (360) 748-9286
Fax: (360) 740-1476
[email protected]



Lincoln County Sheriff
Sheriff Wade Magers
404 Sinclair St
PO Box 367
Davenport, WA 99122
Phone: 509-725-3501
Fax: 509-725-0575
[email protected];[email protected]


Mason County Sheriff's Office
South County
360.427.9670 X313

North County
360.275.4467 X313

West County
360.482.5269 X313
[email protected]


Okanogan County Sheriff's Office
Frank T. Rogers SHERIFF
123 5th Avenue North Room 200

Okanogan, WA. 98840
[email protected]

Pacific County Sheriff's Office, South Bend, WA
Sheriff John Didion
on-Emergencies - Long Beach (360) 642-9397
Non-Emergencies - South Bend (360) 875-9397
Business Office - Long Beach (360) 642-9403
Business Office - South Bend (360) 875-9395
Emergency Management (360) 642-9340
Jail (360) 642-9396

FAX Business Office - Long Beach (360) 642-2218
FAX Business Office - South Bend (360) 875-9393
FAX Emergency Management (360) 642-9342
FAX Jail (360) 875-9322



Pend Oreille County Sheriff’s Office
Sheriff Jerry Weeks
331 South Garden Avenue
Newport, WA 99156-5075
PH 509-447-3151
18006693407



Pierce County Sheriff's Department
Sheriff Paul A. Pastor
County-City Building
930 Tacoma Avenue South, First Floor
Tacoma, WA 98402

Sheriff
253-798-7530
[email protected]


San Juan County Sheriff's Office
William Cumming, Sheriff
Main Office
96 Second St
PO Box 669
Friday Harbor, WA 98250

Friday Harbor/San Juan Island
378-4151


Skagit County Sheriff's Office
Richard Grimstead
Skagit County Sheriff

Mount Vernon (Primary)
600 South Third Street
Mount Vernon WA 98273
Phone: (360) 336-9450
Fax: (360) 336-9455
Email: [email protected]


skamania county sheriff
S.C.S.O.
PO Box 790
200 Vancouver Ave.
Stevenson WA. 98648
Office: (509)427-9490
Fax: (509)427-4369
[email protected]



Snohomish County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff John Lovick
Mailing Address: 3000 Rockefeller, M/S 606; Everett, WA 98201
Location: Fourth Floor Courthouse (see C on map)
Main Phone: 425-388-3393
Sheriff Information
425-388-3393



Spokane County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff
Ozzie Knezovich
[email protected]
Valley Precinct
12710 E Sprague
Spokane WA 99216

Public Safety Bldg
1100 W Mallon
Spokane WA 99260
General Sheriff's Office Information (509) 477-4739


Stevens County Sheriffs Office
Sheriff Craig Ellis Thayer
PO Box 0186
Colville WA 99114-0186
1-800-572-0947


Thurston County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Dan Kimball
Physical Location / Mailing Address

Thurston County Sheriff's Office
2000 Lakeridge Drive SW
Olympia, WA 98502

Phone and FAX Numbers:

Voice: 360-786-5500
FAX: 360-786-5275



WAHKIAKUM COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
Sheriff: Dan L. Bardsley

Office Hours: 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.
Mail: PO Box 65 Cathlamet, WA 98612
Address: 64 Main Street, Cathlamet, WA 98612 (first floor)
Phone: 360.795.3242
Fax: 360.795.3145
e-mail:[email protected]


Walla Walla County Sheriff's office
Public Safety Building
240 W. Alder St, 1st Floor
Walla Walla, WA 99362
Mike Humphreys Sheriff
Toll Free 1-866-527-3268



Whatcom County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Bill Elfo
311 Grand Avenue, Bellingham, Washington 98225 USA
Telephone: (360) 676-6650 or (360) 384-5360; FAX (360) 738-2494
# Sheriff´s Office (Business Hours): (360) 676-6650
# Sheriff´s Office Fax: (360) 738-2494
Sheriff's Office, [email protected]



Whitman County Sheriff’s Office
411 N. Mill Street
Colfax WA 99111
Phone: (509) 397-6266
Brett Myers, Sheriff


Yakima County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Ken Irwin
1822 S. 1st Street
PO Box 1388
Yakima, WA 98907
(509) 574-2500 (800) 572-0490
[email protected]
 
When writing to the representatives – I think it’s helpful to convince them the law is reasonable. It’s helpful to mention the following points:

The proposed bill ensures that the persons receiving the license are stand-up law abiding individuals by doing the following checks
* Lawful presence check
* Country of birth criminal history record check
* FBI Fingerprint check
* Social and Health Services Check

We as a state are spending funds on Department of Licensing personal who are blocked in doing their tasks for a year and a half as of now(ie. Issuing those licenses)
 
The proposed bill ensures that the persons receiving the license are stand-up law abiding individuals by doing the following checks
* Lawful presence check
* Country of birth criminal history record check
* FBI Fingerprint check
* Social and Health Services Check
When folks do this, spend this much time and trouble and hopefully their own buck to own firearms, I see absolutely nothing wrong with non-citizens owning guns.
To me the rub is the unknown person and as an example I'll mention anyone from Cuba that sets foot on US soil gets a "free pass" no matter his or her past and similar situations.
Do you want this kinda unknown person owning/ buying firearms indiscriminately around the country, just because they have a green card? I doubt anyone does, citizen or not.

Please, I am not singling out Cubans, it is an easy example everyone knows about and was used as reference only.

We citizens have to endure Brady type of checks and our criminal records checked in this country why should people from far away foreign lands when nothing about their past is known have that same so called right?
Because they are supposedly here legally? I should hope not but I fear it is so.
People do come here legal that don't especially like America or Americans have dubious histories so due caution should be adhered to IMHO.

Sorry for the good folks toes stepped on, I do admire some or your work within the system and wish you well. It is I fear better safe than sorry sometimes.

I do fear it defeats all my argument to a large extent with the known fact that outlaws will obtain guns legal or not.

To the post below, this has nothing to do with illegals but with "resident aliens" only
 
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Ok so we want to arm illegals? I do not think I am following this post correctly or something.

:)
 
Thanks to all the people supporting this issue. Just want to clarify a few things.

First, I think none of us here are Illegal Aliens. We are resident aliens, a lot are Permanent Resident Aliens. We have house here, job here and pay the same tax. America is our HOME now. Male permanent resident aliens between 18 and 26 are even required to register to selective service just as citizens, which means bear arms and protect America when things go wrong. However, we are not citizen (or yet) for all kinds of reasons, some because of the long (on going) process it takes, some just don't want to denounce their original citizenship.

As to eliphalet, I am not against background check. We here just want to update the state law so the background check is possible. The whole issue is the current state law now bans background check, which bans the issue of AFL AT ALL.

Also, people who has green card has already gone through a long and complex immigration process including a lot of background checks and FBI name checking. This is why Federal law only ban non-immigrant aliens to possess any firearms or ammunition (with some exceptions). And twenty eight states DON"T have a special restrictions on Permanent Resident Aliens.

I hope WA somehow recognize the residence/license in other states. If I'm going to move to WA, I hope I don't have to sell my whole gun collections (Takes a lot time and money). After all, WA is a fairly gun friendly state. If it is CA or NY I'm moving to, I won't even bring the issue up.
 
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Here is a sample letter


Dear ________

I urge you to support SB 5456. It allows legal permanent resident aliens to obtain an Alien Firearms License in order to participate in sporting and hunting activities. The proposed bill ensures that the persons receiving the license are stand-up law abiding individuals by doing the following:
* Lawful presence check
* Country of birth criminal history record check
* FBI Fingerprint check
* Social and Health Services Check

I believe this is an important bill to pass, because we as a state are spending funds on Department of Licensing personal who are blocked in doing their tasks (since mid 2006) and we prohibit law abiding and responsible people from simply possessing a firearm
I support your stance on reasonable public safety and sportsman rights and believe that you will support the bill to its passing this legislative season.


Sincerely,
____________
 
New bill

Hello Everyone,

You might want to check out House Bill 3148. It was heard in the House Judiciary Committee today (1/29) and it seemed to be well received. We’ll see what happens in executive session. To me, it looks like a rewritten version of HB-1011.

Best regards,
Bob
 
If this bill passes the AFL requirement woule be for non-immigrant aliens only. As a permanent resident, just like in the rest of the USA, you wouldn't need a license
 
ohh is it ? but wouldn't a non-immigrant who doesn't have a green card is called a "resident" in a state if he lives there for more than 180 days? I read it somewhere.
 
Yes you can be a resident non-immigrant alien in WA State, that was me and my wife from 2000 to adjusted status in about Nov 2004...

Hopefully it means that a LPR "Green Card Holder" doesn't have to get the retarded license...

Sorry I'm a bit PO's ATM... we've been snowed in for the last 3 days because the Highway is blocked!

I meant no disrespect to any poster above!!
 
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