WA State Alien Firearms Licenses

[user3214]

Good email MD.

It looks like Senator Mark Schoesler http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/schoesler/ brought the bill forward today.

Tomorrow is the last day and all bills must pass, so we need to contact Senator Schoesler to thank him and to urge him to continue to support the bill.

And hopefully the bill finally passes.

 

[MD_Willington]

I have been in contact with Mark, or at least his office liaison too on the issue...


Just emailed him and Joe !

 

[batman]

I will call Mark and Joe's offices in the morning as well as tonight. I will also send emails using the link MD Willington posted to urge their support.

The more of us are calling and emailing the more of a chance this thing has to pass. Let's not give up now, tomorrow is the last day otherwise we are out of luck for another year.

So please call and email the people listed and urge their support tomorrow.

 

[MD_Willington]

Joe emailed me back just now...

Dear Matt,

I wanted to update you on the status of ESHB 3148 the firearm license bill in which you are interested.

The bill did pass the House and the Senate Committee.

I voted in support of the bill when it was before me.

It is just put onto the Senate Calendar today from the Senate Rules Committee.

The bill needs to pass out of the Senate by Friday, March 7th for it to remain alive.

ESSB 5456 did not pass out of the House Judiciary Committee. The chair refused to hear the bill.

I hope this information is helpful. Per your request, I'll keep you posted.

Joe Schmick

State Representative

 

[Diamondback6]

I'm seeing a solution: a targeted campaign to unseat Pam Lantz, and hopefully enough others to shake up committee chairmanships.

How do we start planning this one?

 

[user3214]

Yes we need to do this final push.

There are many bills waiting for a hearing this last day (Friday) so we need to have our voices heard.

 

[MD_Willington]

EVERY WASHINGTON STATE RESIDENT THAT IS READING THIS

Please email everyone on this list right now and ask them to support ESHB 3148.

For all legal residents, green card holders etcetera, please contact or email everyone on the list and tell them you do not want to be discriminated against like I did.

from Joe Waldon

Under RCW 9.41.170, resident aliens residing in Washington must acquire
an Alien Firearms License (AFL) before being allowed to possess a
firearm. Washington is one of only a couple of states that still retain
this holdover from “immigrant Jim Crow” days, despite the fact that
resident aliens already must pass a background check before acquiring
resident alien status. Possession of a firearm by a resident alien,
without an AFL, is a felony.

Dear Senator

Please support ESHB 3148 and ask that it come up for a vote today. ESHB
3148 corrects a technical glitch that places hundreds of Washington
residents at felony risk. The bill passed unanimously from both the
House of Representatives and the Senate Judiciary Committee. Vote “AYE”
on ESHB 3148 TODAY.

The Legislative Hotline number is 1-800-562-6000

If you don't know what "Jim Crow" laws are.. they were mainly disciminatory laws against African Americans, but the term can also be applied to any group that is discriminated against, read here:

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=jim+crow&btnG=Google+Search

 

[Wineoceros]

Oh, man. When I read "Alien Firearms" I thought we'd be discussing phasers and disruptors and stuff. Imagine my disappointment.

 

[user3214]

At the moment they are passing
The Forming a technical advisory group on fire sprinkler systems bill, but the bill because of which legal residents are labeled as felons is not addressed.

Talk about priorities. Sprinkler systems are more important.

 

[Kilted_scot]

3148

Well So far the Senate is though 4 1/2 sheets of consideration, and 3148 has not been addressed.

That being said, yesterday it took until 1617hrs to get to the salmon sheet, and today we got there @ 1334, so I haven't given up hope yet.

 

[Kilted_scot]

3148

3148 hasn't made it to the tan sheet either.

However, 42 bills down 87 bills still to consider.

Tan sheet time for 3/6 1923hrs
Tan sheet time for 3/7 1411hrs

 

[MD_Willington]

NFPA and the local Fire chiefs should hash that one out...

I'm actually a former Apprentice Fire Sprinkler Fitter.. LOL

 

[NewbieShooter]

so the bill did not make it this time ? I think the floor activity is done for today

 

[Kilted_scot]

3148 Status

Watching TVM right now.
The floor debate still appears to be goig on, but then I am not a US citizen, so what would I know about legislative proceedings.

 

[NewbieShooter]

well i was looking at the floor activity report here http://flooractivityext.leg.wa.gov/default.aspx?chamber=7 and looks like it has halted.

 

[user3214]

It is still going. You could watch it live here http://www.tvw.org/media/LiveTemplates/LivePlayer.cfm?evid=2008030078C&ccode=C&TYPE=V&FORMAT=Windows

 

[NewbieShooter]

looks like the president changed so does the session works in shifts ? I am new to legislature activities so don't know much about it.

for how long will it continue ?

 

[NewbieShooter]

2647 is going on for ever.

 

[MD_Willington]

ESHB 3148 Alien firearm licenses Moeller (D-49) DEAD

<<-- MD's Frustration Level !

 

[Gray Peterson]

OK, time to take this law down. There's plenty of good caselaw to have the entire AFL statute struck down, especially in the 9th circuit, so let's get started. Wellington, can you PM me off list?

 

[NewbieShooter]

Sh*t man.

 

[MD_Willington]

OK, time to take this law down. There's plenty of good caselaw to have the entire AFL statute struck down, especially in the 9th circuit, so let's get started. Wellington, can you PM me off list?

No problem

 

[NewbieShooter]

Now what next ?

 

[amw]

Watching this unfold with increasing frustration. I'm also a legal permanent resident who won't be eligible for citizenship until 2010. Very recently introduced to target shooting and interested in keeping it up. Can't see myself renting from the range each time so eventually I'd like to have my own pistol. I took a look at the U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services website where it states:

"Rights
As a Permanent Resident you have most of the rights of a United States Citizen but there are some exceptions.

Rights
To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration law (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing.
To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions.
To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not required.

Exceptions
Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security concerns.
You may not vote in elections limited to United States Citizens."

So just where do we stand legally? What did all those legal permanent residents do with their guns when their licenses expired? Are they now all felons?

 

[user3214]

Yes in WA you would be if you keep any firearm

BTW Let's get together and file a lawsuit to try to resolve this issue.