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WA State Alien Firearms Licenses

Discussion in 'Activism' started by MD_Willington, Aug 23, 2007.

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  1. user3214

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    BTW the last date is March 13th.
    Technically the bill could still be considered even though that’s unlikely.

    Probably we could still contact someone that could help the bill this session
     
  2. MD_Willington

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    Yep keep bugging the people in the email lists... and your local rep.

    Contact Senator Mark Schoeslers office, his liaison (not sure if that is the right term) will probably email you back, IIRC her name is Krista


    What did people do with their firearms.. Well, mine are stored at a very good friends house.
     
  3. Firepower!

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    Well I lived in the US for close to 11 years I did not Aliens could have a gun. Personally I think it is a very sensitive issue since every country has different polices. But if I knew I could own one I would at get something to target practice alot before coming back home and dispose the gun since I am sure I would not have been able to bring it with me, since I cant even order a laser sight for G19 from US!
     
  4. Kilted_scot

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    Where oh where is my gun!!!

    Best plan that I could come up with was to transfer ownership of my gun to my wife using the transfer form on the DOL's website.

    For those of you shooting at a range. The RCW makes it a felony to possess a handgun. Might be interesting to see if police would consider you to "possess a gun" if you are standing shooting !
     
  5. user3214

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    I just got off the phone - Lisa Brown is the senate majority leader, and is the one who could bring the bill for a reading.

    I just called her office and ask them to consider the bill. Please do the same. I will also email her.
     
  6. MD_Willington

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    Currently it's at
    Mar 10 Senate Rules "X" file.

    I don't know what that means
     
  9. user3214

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    X File means – the bill is no longer for consideration because it’s fundamentally wrong, would take too much time ……
    That doesn’t mean the bill is dead though
     
  10. user3214

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    I phoned DOL they said they will contact Senator Brown as well.
     
  11. MD_Willington

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    Good call...

    DOL is kind of stuck too, since they are in charge of issuing but are not allowed to..

    Now if they could change their policy to have my Sheriff run the check and he could say Y or N to them... then that would solve this mess!

    It would be as easy as getting a signed official document from my Sheriff.. I'll pay to have that piece of paper priority shipped to the DOL firearms desk myself !!
     
  12. user3214

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    I asked that a while ago and DOL said it still wouldn't work because they aren't allowed to get such an answer - as "yes" he can possess or "no" he can't possess.

    But it’s worth a try call the DOL and ask them.
     
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    What is the X-File

    From the Senate rules website
    http://www.leg.wa.gov/Senate/Committees/RULE/rules+shorthand+guide.htm

    After certain cut-off dates, as a house-keeping measure the Senate Rules Committee sometimes places bills no longer eligible for consideration in the “X-File”. This removes them from calendars, and the daily status sheet, keeping those lists from becoming too long and unwieldy. They usually remain in the X-File until the end of the biennium.
     
  14. agjerde

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    The bill overview now says:

    Mar 13 By resolution, returned to House Rules Committee for third reading.

    When will that be? Does the bill still have a chance?
     
  15. NewbieShooter

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    i don't think so, the session for this year is over i guess. This bill will be taken up in the next session which is next year.
     
  16. user3214

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    I believe the Governor could call a session.
    If that’s true we could contact the Governor and see what happens
     
  17. MD_Willington

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    Worth a try..
     
  18. MD_Willington

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    Well we could all sue the State, ever one of us legal permanent residents would need to sign onto this though...
     
  19. Steely

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    Just read through this whole posting. Nail biting stuff.
    I am also a permanent resident in WA wanting this to pass.
    3 weeks ago I purchased a 22 semi auto rifle through a large outdoor retailer. Then 1 week ago I tried to purchase another at another large retailer, but this time was refused. I was told all the legal stuff you all know, we were both shocked. They contacted the DOL to get confirmation and then contacted the store that sold the first rifle to me. They were very sorry and sympathetic.
    I called the DOL and then the original store, and told them I would return all the firearm items I had purchased. I was given a refund and compensation for their mistake.
    Im now looking into helping getting it legal again to own a firearm.
    Sooo what next?
    I'm in.
    Tim
     
  20. agjerde

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    I'm in too. This has been going on for far too long. Let's sue.
     
  21. robertbank

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    "I wouldn't expect to go live in Mexico or Canada or the UK or anywhere for that matter and think all that is available to or for the citizens of that country would be available for me a alien, why should all of you expect that here?

    Why not? When you come to Canada you, as an individual are protected by our laws and are subject to them. You also are protected by our Charter of Rights & Freedoms. In addition your passport ensures your right to contact the US Embassy if you are arested. Reverse this statement and all of the above applies to me when travelling in the US,

    Meet the residency requirements and you would enjoy the benefits of Health Care, your children would attend our schools etc.

    As stupid as our gun laws are we do allow aliens (Includes folks from the US) to take the Canadian Firearms Course and upon sucessful completion own and possess firearms.

    I see the Washington State laws is being primarily anti-gun with some good old fashion paranoia thrown in. I certainly don't see it as anti-Canadian,

    Take Care

    Bob
     
  22. MD_Willington

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    I agree let's sue.
    Anyone have any information of how to file the lawsuit. We could also get free help from a local university’s law program.
     
  24. MD_Willington

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    I'm also in email contact with someone in Idaho that has the same idea, SAF was going to have him stand in court as a witness.
     
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