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( i don't see where this fits into any other forum to post this )

Picked this up at a gun show 'bout 30 years ago.
This is an all brass carriage.
6" .36 Bbl.
Fully adjustable elevation.
I have fired .36 rb's from this and also have stuffed this Bbl FULL o' BP and techt er off fer a SERIOUSLY loud boom !! :cool:
It is suprisingly accurate to 'bout 15 feet . But, i was just 'rollin' the ball down the Bbl then and now realize that it's made for a patched RB.
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Will trade for gun, gun stuff or dead presidents.

BTW, Bbl,or whole cannon for that matter, will Flitz clean. I started to clean and then figgered someone may want to keep patina.
In pic #1 you can see it's missin a brass nut.( rear of carriage) I prrrrobably have it somewhere but it's a common item and can be bot.
After researchin current kits, ( none have non wooden carriages), i'm guessin it's worth $200-$300 ?
 
C&B stuff Levi.
Used '58's. :)
Cylinders 'n such.
A nice cylinder loader.
What ya got ?
I'm guessin at that value number as per kits i saw on line and that aint witten in stone.
 
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I do have a loading stand if you are interested, I barely have used the thing. I also have a Remington style bullet mold, the conicals are easier to load than the ones you get from a Lee mold. It also casts a round ball, but it isn't a perfect round ball. They are good for plinking though. I can also make powder measures from antler or bone!
 
Patch?

What makes you think that it was mad for a patched RB? BP cannons and mortars generally do not use patches. There is a clearance built into the barrel, called windage, that is accepted as normal. No patch.
Do you have alternate info?
 
What makes you think that it was mad for a patched RB? BP cannons and mortars generally do not use patches. There is a clearance built into the barrel, called windage, that is accepted as normal. No patch.
Do you have alternate info?
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Thanx Pete. I didn't know that and it makes perfect sense.
Nope, no alternate info.
Just an incorrect assumption.
I 'spect that also lends to the quality o' this little gem ?
 
Model cannons aren't cannons. Most folks that shoot table top sized guns do use patches. Jim meantioned his is rifled. Might be interesting to see how one shoots it expecting to have the rifleing work without a patch. Think of this as a muzzle loading pistol with wheels.

Muzzle loading rifled cannon of the mid 1800's used various means of allowing the shell to be loaded from the front and then engaging the rifleing when fired.

Most used something like a minie ball concept where a lead sheath on the base of the shell was expanded, some by the action of the powder and some by a wedge like concept where as inertia prevented inital motion of the iron portion of the shell a lead sleeve was driven up the cone shaped base of the iron shell thus expanding the lead into the rifling. Atleast one design used paper mache as the expanding bit that grabbed the rifling. SOme used an expanding disc much like the 4.2 inch mortar of WWII to 1990 service in the US Army. A cup or saucer shaped disc was fitted to the base of the shell with the hollow down and firing expanded the disc into the rifling again like a minie ball but with copper or bronze of some mix.

All of those had issues.

Smooth bore cannon typically used a wooden sabot onto which the round shell or shot was wired or strapped. Powder bags were frequently tied to the base of the sabot and some were water proofed with lead or "tin" foil that was to be removed before loading. Canister was a tin can about bore size full of musket balls or larger lead or iron balls nailed to a wooden sabot often with attached powder bag.

By the way some cannon of the early 1600s and earlier were loaded with a packed wad behind the ball much as a muzzle loading shotgun and some of the earlist cannon used iron bolts (as in cross bow darts) wrapped in rags thick enough to require forcing it down the muzzle to act as a sabot. No doubt bridging incedents where the bolts tried to turn in the bore put an end to this.

There is no more only one way to load all cannon than there is one way to load all muzzleloaders.

Using a patch would without a doubt increase the accuracy of a toy .36 caliber cannon rifled or not.

-kBob
 
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