We need more Black gun owners in the NRA

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How about we get back on track, or at least try to address the question of how to get more blacks involved with the RKBA, shooting and 2nd amendment issues.

I'd say the most effective way would be for other blacks to introduce them to the sport.
 
Oh, I don't know.... quit talking about the issues which revolve around internal issues of the black community, and begin talking about what would encourage black people to want to join the NRA....

We all know black people commit more crimes per capita than Whites or Asians. Big whoopee. It's a serious issue, and needs to be addressed but not in the activism part of this forum. (Oh, that sounded way to moderator-esque)
 
I'd say the most effective way would be for other blacks to introduce them to the sport.
Been there, done that. Ignorance (as in a lack of knowledge) is the primary problem, compounded by intentional disinformation. I try to provide factual information where I can.
 
If the membership of AA's in the NRA reflects the percentage of AA's in the general population (~12%) then this isn't really an issue IMHO.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find any concrete numbers on the racial make-up of the NRA membership.
 
Unfortunately I can't seem to find any concrete numbers on the racial make-up of the NRA membership.
I've been a member of the NRA off and on since the mid-70s. I don't ever recall being asked my race, religion or ethnicity.
 
You obviously left out the part where you show that 51% of Black people in your area of Florida commit criminal acts with firearms. Purely an oversight, I'm sure.
No, but you can look for yourself. http://search.aol.com/aol/search?qu...llover&c.userid=49f7b619-00221-0428d-e2960c40

And I agree with the others and will get back on point. We have three blacks out of 22 that shoot in my group, all Army retirees and all are presently in LE. Based on the % of blacks in our population that is about the right mix. I would venture to say the black membership in the NRA is in the 12 to 15% range.
 
What the heck? Here's a person who has no idea of the history of the NRA and the civil rights movement...
Dammitboy, you took what I said out of context. I was stating that people want to believe things that are a load of crap. Those were examples. you took it out of context. I will note my sarcasm over the internet next time.
 
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I personally don't care what the color of the skin is. I don't care if they young, old, female, etc. We need more NRA members, PERIOD.
That was almost going to be my exact post until I saw you had already posted it.
 
Why are we segregating a minority group. Black Americans have the freedom to do what they want if they don't want to be gun owners big deal many white and other Americans choose to not do so as well. And I tell you what if Black Americans are still pissed about slavery I tell you what find me someone who actually suffered through goverment sanctioned slavery in America and I wil give you a million dollars.
 
I'm not black so this is only speculation.

First I see more black people all the time getting into shooting and various forms of outdoor recreation previously where none could be found, so that means things are changing.

However if you think it's not been so long ago that the concern in certain places was keeping blacks from having guns. So there's that.

Then it's not been so long since they WERE property and didn't OWN any property. So the landlessness I think played a role as well.

Finally every black person I have known that hunted did so on posted private land. They were afraid of rednecks shooting them. In fact I had a buddy if we were just out driving around in the country and he saw a confederate flag he'd want me to get the hell out of there, because he had actually been chased down by a bunch of rednecks and beaten.

So there's the thing that in a lot of urban areas, middle class well educated where people don't have as many racist tendencies most people don't hunt or shoot and the areas where you CAN are limited.

Then in the areas where open space abounds and shooting and hunting are more widely practiced the population is less educated and have more racist tendencies there wouild be more the element of fear keeping a black person from fully joining in.
 
This is a very long thread and I have not read all of the posts:

But for what it is worth I grew up in black neighborhood (1950's, I am white) and every black household had a gun(s). These were people that were mainly from Mississippi. They may have been black but were also southerners also. A popular revolver caliber was 32-20. The questions is that very few blacks are involved in organized shooting sports or the NRA. Things are slowly changing. I commonly see blacks at gun shows when 30 years ago they were rare. I suspect still that very few belong to the NRA and that needs to increase. My gun club has made succesful overtures to black religious organizations about training programs under one of our presidents (He was a conservative Democrat). Not sure what our present leadership is doing.

Black people in rural areas, small towns, and blue collar occupations do own guns just like other americans. Those living on welfare in big cities are in a different world. Same for some of the urban professionals.
 
I'd just like to say +1 to everything Kyo said and most things Jbrown50 said (though he did take a few people out of context)

As to the association of the NRA with racism, then what about the JPFO? Their primary message clearly appeals to any type of oppressed minority.
 
bullpupben: As to the association of the NRA with racism, then what about the JPFO? Their primary message clearly appeals to any type of oppressed minority.
Preception is everything and the truth not only will not set you free, it often does not count for much.

Once you say Jewish; many minority people associate that with Israel and the zionist movement which means good things for jews, but not necessarily for black people. I am not saying that the JPFO is a zionist organization; I really do not know. But, there has always been some latent antisemitism in the black (Jesse Jackson Heime speech is a good example) and also the white communities of America. So do not expect that any organization with the word Jewish in front of it is going to be automatically attractive to black people just because it is jewish.

I am sorry if I have offended anybody, but I simply speaking what I know to be true.
 
I suspect still that very few belong to the NRA and that needs to increase.

Why do you believe we need more black members, do you know how many are presently members?? No you don't. I doubt that the NRA knows how many blacks are members and really doesn't care as long as they send in their dues. When you say black do you include all the black races? I suspect there is at least 12% of the about 4 million members that are black.

I think the NRA needs more French-Americans, Asian-Americans, Cuban-Americans. Why do I say that? because I haven't met many that are members but I am not an expert on NRA memberships.

Why don't we leave it up to the NRA to recruit their new members. I don't believe they give a damn about anyones color, just the annual $35 bucks.
 
The trend seems to be there are more black gun owners. I go to lot of gun show. I see Brown Gun owners with their hunting guns. They are converted to black gun owner as the sell their Brown gun for Black guns. It is Known fact is The Black Gun Owner buy more ammo than the brown gun owners. There are more Black gun owner at Gun shows now. There is question now where do the Green Gun owners belong. The true facts are Gun owners are for most part Black Gun owners.
Now I dont want to upset The bi racial folks either. I myself support Nascar and NHRA. I think People have bigotry tendencies if they only support one race.

So more Black Gun owners now belong to NRA than ever before

What were we talking about.
 
... the NRA is lacking Black Gun owners?

Hey, don't look at us in KC, we've got our memberships. It's those St. Louis slackers, they keep putting it off :D .
 
Im black and own guns.. used to be a NRA member.. I let my membership expire recently because I didnt like the nastiness I saw from gun owners during the past election.
 
The famous suffragist and civil rights activist Ida B Wells said it best, "...a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home.". Can't have freedom without the direct means to preserve it.

Regarding the NRA, I am a life member, and, in my opinion, our organization has not exactly gone out of its way to even attempt to sway racial minorities. I even called their one-time radio show and tried to argue the point to the host but he was more interested in laying into "inner city thugs" as a root cause of gun deaths (yes, in too many cases) instead of attempting to energize all people with the freedom enumerated in the 2nd Amendment.
 
I even called their one-time radio show and tried to argue the point to the host but he was more interested in laying into "inner city thugs" as a root cause of gun deaths (yes, in too many cases) instead of attempting to energize all people with the freedom enumerated in the 2nd Amendment.
An interesting bit of irony there.

Who are the primary non-criminal victims of those "inner city thugs"?
Inner city NON-thugs.

Whom do non-inner city thugs like Sarah Brady and Dick Daley move heaven and earth to disarm? Inner city NON-thugs. The thugs have all of the guns they need. On occasion, cops like Joseph Miedzianowski supply them with guns or ammunition.

Anti-gunners view Black inner-city communities as "game preserves". If the "lions" take a certain number of "antelope", that's "natural". As long as all of the "animals" stay in the park, they're not too worried. On the other hand, if the antelope start growing fangs and claws and started disemboweling the lions, they're horrified and see that as "unnatural".

Police almost never protect individuals ANYWHERE. They especially don't do it in inner-city Black communities. Yet, Black people are told they don't need guns... because guys like Joe Miedzianowski and Jerry Finnegan will "protect" them.

It's a con as big as anything Bernie Madoff ever pulled... except Madoff never killed anybody.
 
Talking with a buddy of mine at work about gun ownership and he had a totally different spin.
As a young black man he owned a gun. An illegal, stolen one. He wasn't in a gang, avoided them but was still a target and felt the need to carry. Now in his 40's he won't own because he knows too many people shot by gangs or leo's. He said that if he's pulled over and Leo see's a gun under the seat he'd be shot. I tried to tell him that with training and responsible ownership the under the seat comment would be moot, and having a handgun in a ready safe at home or a CCW is totally different than being a young thug. (His term not mine.)
Illustrates the different perceptions. I can talk about guns and mean a legal, over and under, Fudd (as in Elmer) gun, while he's thinking only of an illegal gun under the seat.
We talked a bit about it. He supports 2nd, but is sold that he'd be arrested or shot if he owned. And he associates guns so much with gang behavior that responsible behavior seems foreign.
Kind of the inverse of the "if you only have a hammer the whole world looks like a nail" argument. Looking at a screw, thumbtack, pushpin, spike, needle... he can't stop thinking hammer, so dosn't own one.
Good Christian man so he's got that armor, me i'm happy i have a bigger toolbox.
 
Why not just say:
We need more gun owners in the NRA?

Labels more labels. Sad really.
We see it everywhere. :rolleyes:

donato, you wrote on page one:
(and I'm assuming that you are not caucasian),

No, I'm a white boy, but lived and played with the brothers and sisters
(and other 'group's) for many years.
I was fortunate enough to meet, work and interact daily with Arabs, Yemenis, Latinos, Egyptians, Pakistanis' (and many many more)...

You'd be surprised how many 'black people'
there are from these different 'groups'.
But to me they are just 'people',
who happen to have a different skin pigment than me.

So that's why I say:
Why not just say:
We need more gun owners in the NRA?
 
Regarding the NRA, I am a life member, and, in my opinion, our organization has not exactly gone out of its way to even attempt to sway racial minorities.
Why should they. They advertise in every form of the media. Why should a selected few be pampered. I don't see the blacks trying to recruit whites into their organizations.

If you don't agree with the NRA's policy/management style why are you still a member? It is a well known fact that they, the NRA, will continue to operate as their management desires, not as you are I want. Remember there are at least 4 million members that must think they are doing an outstanding job. I am one of those 4 million who is quite satisfied with the NRA as it is today.
 
I've had my differances with the NRA over the years & quit recruiting do to their constant use of imported promotional items. I was once sent 50 imported hats to give away in an area where a Garmet workers factory had just closed do to being relocated.
That's a way to bring in more members. Had those hats been Made in the USA as they should have been It would have been a huge plus in attracting new members. People look at that and say you want me to support you? Where is your support going? To some country that doesn't even allow gun ownership?
 
Why not just say:
We need more gun owners in the NRA?
Because Blacks are SPECIFICALLY targeted for disarmament. Blacks are SPECIFICALLY pressured (and sometimes intimidated) into not having the means of self-defense.

A specific attack requires a specific response.
 
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