Western NY Nuisance hunting

[daniel craig]

Hey y’all, this year I’d like to try to get into nuisance deer hunting for a few reasons.

Not only would this increase access to meat (which, if not illegal I plan on sharing with people in need during these hard shopping times) and help farmers but it would also help me practice processing deer on my own which is something I’ve been thinking about doing for a long time now.

I know that sounds bad and I understand the opposition people have to inviting someone they don’t know out to shoot deer on their land so I’d meet with you for an interview first if you want.

If anyone knows anyone in the Rochester/Buffalo area with more deer an nuisance tags than people to hunt, let me know.

I’d like to keep some of the meat but you can have most of it if you want.

Edit: I’ve attached a screenshot from the DEC website that makes it seem like the meat can get used.

 

[22250Rem]

20 something years ago a guy I used to know worked with someone who was able to get nuisance tags for his farm. Think it was eastern Monroe or in northern Wayne county. Too bad I haven't seen him in years or I'd be asking about it. I'd be real interested in a nuisance deer hunt because in several of my normal hunting areas the deer have all gone nocturnal and I have the trail cam pics to prove it. And during the day there aren't enough people out to get them moving. And every year my step daughter is asking for venison. P.S. You still have that deer slaying Mosin-Nagant ? I have some decent soft point handloads for mine and it would be great to use 'em on deer. Don't see many folks these days but when this corona stuff lets up I should ask around about nuisance tags.

 

[troy fairweather]

When I was a kid, the farmer of the farm we hunted had the nuisance tags, I think he only ever shot a few deer every year. 1994-96 the deer population went down probably from the heavy snow them years. Every hunter for miles blamed him for shooting all the deer, to the point they vandalized his barn and house.

 

[daniel craig]

20 something years ago a guy I used to know worked with someone who was able to get nuisance tags for his farm. Think it was eastern Monroe or in northern Wayne county. Too bad I haven't seen him in years or I'd be asking about it. I'd be real interested in a nuisance deer hunt because in several of my normal hunting areas the deer have all gone nocturnal and I have the trail cam pics to prove it. And during the day there aren't enough people out to get them moving. And every year my step daughter is asking for venison. P.S. You still have that deer slaying Mosin-Nagant ? I have some decent soft point handloads for mine and it would be great to use 'em on deer. Don't see many folks these days but when this corona stuff lets up I should ask around about nuisance tags.

I do indeed! It’s bubbad and ugly but it slays.

 

[daniel craig]

When I was a kid, the farmer of the farm we hunted had the nuisance tags, I think he only ever shot a few deer every year. 1994-96 the deer population went down probably from the heavy snow them years. Every hunter for miles blamed him for shooting all the deer, to the point they vandalized his barn and house.

People don’t realize that we WANT smaller deer populations. Especially now that it’s getting warmer and there are more ticks around.

 

[troy fairweather]

Most only want deer dead after the totaled there new car. Think I remember reading more then one million deer are hit by cars in ny plus all the ones not reported by guys with good bumper and brush guards. I hit 15 one year.

 

[Highland Lofts]

You should be able call your regional DEC office and see what farms were given deer damage permits.

When the weather gets warm I wouldn't want to mess cleaning the deer with all the flys.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I wouldn’t mind getting permission to hunt any private land so good luck with that. Hogs are nuisance here and there are more of them and they do more damage than deer. I have been “interviewed” by landowners and vouched for by friends and family members of them but still no permission.

Landowners would rather deal with the hogs than the hunters. I would think it would be the same way up there.

When the weather gets warm I wouldn't want to mess cleaning the deer with all the flys.

That’s all year here.

 

[Highland Lofts]

I got a few deer when the weather was on the warm side. Got them gutted out and quarted up and placed in plastic buckets in a fridge to cool down. Then I got deer in the extreme coldn hung it up in a tree over night and had them get completly frozen.
Had to bring it in and set it in the bath tub to unthaw enough to skin it and quarter it up.
After that I skin them as soon as I can and get them quartered up.before real cold weather sets in.

 

[daniel craig]

I wouldn’t mind getting permission to hunt any private land so good luck with that. Hogs are nuisance here and there are more of them and they do more damage than deer. I have been “interviewed” by landowners and vouched for by friends and family members of them but still no permission.

Landowners would rather deal with the hogs than the hunters. I would think it would be the same way up there.



That’s all year here.

It can be done here. NY is one of those places with a mix of rural and suburban areas but also good mix of anti-hunters so sometimes they’re amicable to letting people hunt

 

[daniel craig]

You should be able call your regional DEC office and see what farms were given deer damage permits.

When the weather gets warm I wouldn't want to mess cleaning the deer with all the flys.

That’s a good idea! Thanks!

 

[redneck]

Are you allowed to harvest the meat in New York? In Ohio the deer damage control permit regulations state that you are not allowed to keep the antlers under any circumstances and that "They are not issued for use as a quality deer management tool or as a primary means to kill deer for human consumption"
Its been a long time since I hunted with them but the people I knew that got depredation permits were never able to keep the meat from any deer shot outside of the normal deer season.

 

[Highland Lofts]

Out here in Washington State there are a butt load of geese and farmers get permits to shoot them for crop damage. They can not use them for consumtion, most of the geese shot are just left in the field and the coyotes clean them up.

I know a few guys who hunt crows. Some times they will take over fifty crows.
They leave them where they drop and will be gone by the next day.

 

[daniel craig]

I get they’re a nuisance, the geese but it seems like an awful waste of meat to not be able to do anything with them

 

[daniel craig]

Are you allowed to harvest the meat in New York? In Ohio the deer damage control permit regulations state that you are not allowed to keep the antlers under any circumstances and that "They are not issued for use as a quality deer management tool or as a primary means to kill deer for human consumption"
Its been a long time since I hunted with them but the people I knew that got depredation permits were never able to keep the meat from any deer shot outside of the normal deer season.

Maybe not, I don’t know.

 

[redneck]

I always found the practice wasteful but I think the ODNR was trying to reinforce the point that you were shooting nuisance animals that were costing you revenue (the folks I knew that had permits ran a truck patch farm, selling sweet corn, berries and what not). It was not just a way to stock the freezer back up in April. My experience is only in Ohio and was quite a few years ago, you should check the regulations where you live.

 

[T.R.]

You should consider investigating a deer hunt on a military base. When I lived in Pennsylvania, most of my deer hunting was performed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland. The hunting was restricted to archery gear (including crossbows), shotguns, and muzzle-loaders. But we hunted from climbing tree stands and our shots were typically within 40 yards or so. Now I live in Florida and I hunt at Avon Park Bombing Range. Similar restrictions but the hunting is good because military authorities want deer thinned out each year by hunters.

Good hunting to you!

TR

 

[dh1633pm]

I live outside Syracuse. There is a guy that has such a permit granted by the township. I let him park on my property. He hunts around the neighborhood with a bow. Not sure how he got it, but we sure do have a lot of deer in the area and no place to hunt. Too many houses.

 

[rdnktrkr]

When I hunted military bases in the 70s I had to take a safety course and we were dropped off and picked up from a bus at our sector. The hunting was good but no time for scouting. We always came out with at least one but usually 2 or 3.
We get nuisance permits here that allows us to remove 8 deer and not use any of our tags but I don't remember them allowing us to hunt in April.

 

[buck460XVR]

When I was a kid, the farmer of the farm we hunted had the nuisance tags. Every hunter for miles blamed him for shooting all the deer, to the point they vandalized his barn and house.

Had a similar experience. Local guy worked full time for the local electric company. Also farmed the family farm of 460 acres full time. Nice guy, not much of a hunter, used to let most everyone he knew personally, and that asked, hunt on the farm. Neighbors always hunted it for years. When the deer populations exploded on Ag. land and the state started to issue nuisance tags, he was told he had to shoot 40 antlerless deer every fall before the start of gun deer season, if he wanted to collect deer damage. He basically had to advertise to get someone to help shoot them. Neighbors threw a fit. Since it was prime deer habitat, many hunted it during bow season(which was during the time the deer were supposed to be shot). They were upset that "their" hunting was being disturbed. Then come the regular gun season, any neighbor or friend hunting the farm that was unsuccessful, blamed the owner for allowing "all" the deer to be shot. After two years, the neighbors got together and offered to pay the owner the same amount the state was going to pay him, if he stopped the nuisance hunting. So he did. All was fine till the year of the big snow and the farmer had 50 deer every day eating corn from his corn cribs, and the deer would come to the feed bunk with the cows, when they heard the silo unloader come on.

You should be able call your regional DEC office and see what farms were given deer damage permits.

^^^I would think you should be able to do this. I know the Amish around here know every farm with crop depredation permits, many times the day they are issued.