Varminterror
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Varget, 41’s, 50 Vmax, 77 SMK’s, and 55 Hornady balls. Covers anything I’ll need to do, but doesn’t lock me into one purpose.
I assume he's talking about the round throwing sparks as it is steel tipped.
55gr Federal works just fine for me.
M193 ball and equivalent hand loads
I’m really close to CarJunkie on this. I load 223 with H335 but use Hornady’s 55gr FMJBT. I have a handful loaded with Sierra hollow points that I loaded thinking maybe they’d be better for varmints or predators. I have a bunch of components and just load one or two hundred when I have time.
I also buy 7.62 x 39 whenever it’s convenient. Usually Tula from Walmart or Bass Pro. Anywhere from 40-100 at a time depending on my budget.
7mm- How many grains if 335 do you use with your Hornady 55gr?
I use 24.5.
Not 7mm, but 24.6 H335 under a 55FMJ was my load.
Thanks chuck I used the words 7mm because I was referring to his post not the caliber. But I presume you mean that you use 24.6 of H 335 for your 223 round.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks chuck I used the words 7mm because I was referring to his post not the caliber. But I presume you mean that you use 24.6 of H 335 for your 223 round.
Thanks for the info.
7mm Savage - What is your COL? Chuck?
I seat so that the case mouth ends up in the middle of the canalure. Ends up at 2.221 + or - a thousandth or so.
Meant to tell you guys earlier. I chrono’ed this load and it’s about 200 FPS slower than XM193 through my 20” barrel. No idea what that would mean in a hunting or SD application but it’s really accurate, so I’m sticking with it.
I’d like to experiment with IMR4895 one day so that I can use the same powder as my bigger bore rifles. Anyone have any experience they want to share?
If your standing off hand is anything like mine, rocks will probably do. =)I have a lot of M855 green tip. I use it for service rifle practice (it's plenty good enough for my offhand position ) and I can get it for around 30 cents/round or a little more.
You might consider trying a box of PMC .223 Rem. Bronze 55 gr FMJ. I was surprised that while it wasn't match quality, it grouped better than Federal American Eagle, IMI, or Norma TAC-223 (all 55 gr FMJ) out of my Stag Model 6. (1in 8" twist 24" heavy barrel).I'm surprised there are people buying PMC. I got some for my M1 Garand and it's trash. I got some for my 243, and it was the worst groups that gun ever shot. I avoid that entire brand like the plague now.
And M855 is actually slightly less penetrative than typical M193 in hard materials due to the lower velocity, until you move the target back to a few hundred yards where the higher ballistic coefficient of M855 gives it more retained velocity.I like the Federal M193 5.56. I don't see any use for the M855, I'm not shooting through armor and with the dry land I shoot on, it would just be a fire hazard if anything.
I don’t think it’s that people think that M855 is no good, but that it’s not worth paying more than M193 for what it delivers (a smidgen better performance at range). I’d happily shoot either as plinking ammo, if the price was similar.What is really the "beef" with M855?