What does it cost to ship a handgun?

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Since it has to be sent next day air via UPS/FedEx, that seems kind of expensive... Is there a cheaper way to do it or is that what we're stuck with?
 
You have to use a contract carrier like UPS/Fedex. You must notify them it's a firearm per their company policies. It's up to their policies to dictate shipping manner. Some counterfolk may let you use ground, others make you overnight.
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If you're a FFL, you can use the mail.
 
But it's only like $15, dealers just screw you if they charge over $20. I had a dealer tell me once that it cost $25 just to do the paperwork when he sold a gun.

J.B.
 
I just sold a XDM, it weighed 8 lbs in the case with accessories, and I put $500 as the value. It was $71 by the time UPS got done with me. Next day air saver, fuel surcharge, Adult signature, etc. etc. adds up quickly.
 
Shipping handguns "by the books" you should always use UPS next day air saver in a UPS box (its cheaper). If your paying standard rate its usually ~$18-20. I use the UPS code in my paypal account for a 25% (or more?) discount, often you can use your employer's code if they have one, still can pay yourself in store but the account code gives you a discount. It would probably average ~$15 if you did it this way. The next day air requirement is a company policy, a lot of people just ship handguns ground, thus breaking UPS/FEDEX policy. Do not do this with USPS.
 
If you're shipping the gun back to the manufacturer, you do not need to go thru an FFL to do it.

If you're selling a gun out of state, you need to send it to an FFL in that state. You do not need to send it from an FFL in your state to make it legal.

It is NOT federal law to overnight handguns. It is merely the policy of UPS. This was brought about by UPS employees stealing guns if they sat in the main shipping center too long. So, instead of cracking down on the real problem, they decided to make it more expensive for the rest of us.

I typically send it FedEx Second Day for $20 or so and have had zero concerns thus far.
 
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Is there a cheaper way to do it or is that what we're stuck with?

The cheapest way to ship a handgun to an out-of-state FFL is to go to a local FFL and have him do it. He has the privileged ability to use the USPS that you do not. Pay him a $20 transfer fee for his time and paperwork, and then he can put it in a USPS flat-rate box and insure it for about $15. Thus:

1) It's insured
2) It will arrive in 2/3 days from shipment
3) You will support your local FFL and get to know more about local resources

He will need to have an emailed or hard copy of the receiving FFL's license; this can be handled quickly and easily via email between the two FFL's.

As mentioned above, there are different rules for shipping to a manufacturer or within your own state, but this is the general gist of what you can do for a handgun going to another state.
 
...spoke to a manuf. today about having an ambi safety installed on a new 1911...they said they'd send me a label to use...$30 to them from a local mail-it shop via FedEx...the manuf will FedEx it back to my home...$30 back to me...no ffl...no going to a big hub and standing in a long line...love it!!!
 
Can 03 FFL's ship non C&R handguns through usps?

No, only FFL dealers can do that, not just any FFL. They have to fill out a USPS form (1509 I think) and attest to being a dealer.
 
My FFL charges me a flat $15 plus what ever the USPS shipping and insurance charge is, My last one was a CZ82 shipped for $11.50 + $15 = $26.50.
 
I would strongly suggest you pay the extra money

What extra money? Fedex allows 2nd Day delivery on handguns.

and tell the carrier what they are shipping.

$30 to them from a local mail-it shop via FedEx...the manuf will FedEx it back to my home...$30 back to me...no ffl...no going to a big hub and standing in a long line...

How does this not violate the aforementioned federal law? AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!
 
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David E:..How does this not violate the aforementioned federal law? AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!


Because Federal law allows it.
If your new Glock kabooms, Glock can either repair it, or they can replace it with a new Glock AND return it directly to you- no FFL transfer required.

[TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS

CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents

Subpart I_Exemptions, Seizures, and Forfeitures

Sec. 478.147 Return of firearm.

A person not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State or local law may
ship a firearm to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or
licensed dealer for any lawful purpose, and, notwithstanding any other
provision of this part, the licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or
licensed dealer may return in interstate or foreign commerce to that
person the firearm or a replacement firearm of the same kind and type.

See Sec. 478.124(a) for requirements of a Form 4473 prior to return. A
person not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State or local law may ship
a firearm curio or relic to a licensed collector for any lawful purpose,
and, notwithstanding any other provision of this part, the licensed
collector may return in interstate or foreign commerce to that person
the firearm curio or relic.

[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10507, Mar. 31, 1988]
 
Had someone tell me that instead of shipping a gun from Nevada to Florida He just got on a plane and took it there himself because it was cheaper. Not sure about that though. Maybe though. One guy said they charged him $500 to ship from NC to MA. If thats the case just buy a plane ticket and fly it up yourself. bonus you get to visit a new place.
 
Had someone tell me that instead of shipping a gun from Nevada to Florida He just got on a plane and took it there himself because it was cheaper. Not sure about that though. Maybe though. One guy said they charged him $500 to ship from NC to MA. If thats the case just buy a plane ticket and fly it up yourself. bonus you get to visit a new place.
Remember, the 100 IQ is an "average". ;-)
 
dog town tom, you answered a question I didn't ask.

I didn't ask if you needed an FFL to return a gun to the manufacturer. In Post #9, my first line stated NO, you do not.

The link Sweden provided in Post # 10 contained this line: Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm

My subsequent question has to do with boxing up the gun with the company provided shipping label and dropping it off. Clearly in this instance, the carrier is not notified what is inside the shipping container. So how is that not violating the Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm part of the law?
 
David E: ...My subsequent question has to do with boxing up the gun with the company provided shipping label and dropping it off. Clearly in this instance, the carrier is not notified what is inside the shipping container. So how is that not violating the Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm part of the law?

Sorry David, I misunderstood. I misread and thought you were asking about the legality of a direct return from the manufacturer.

The link to the ATF FAQ that Sweden posted is infamous as it is factually incorrect. ATF lists the relevant laws or regulations below each FAQ answer.

One of those is 27CFR478.31 which is quoted below. Note that notification is ONLY required when shipping to someone OTHER than a licensed
importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector.

So, Federal law doesn't require notification- but the shipping policies of UPS & FedEx do. What happens if you fail to notify them of a handgun shipment? Nothing. Unless that shipment gets lost or damaged. Then you get to argue with them about insurance for an item that was shipped contrary to their written policy.

TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND FIREARMS

CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents

Subpart C_Administrative and Miscellaneous Provisions

Sec. 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.

(a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to
any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in
interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed
importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector,
any package or other container in which there is any firearm or
ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or
ammunition is being transported or shipped
: Provided, That any passenger
who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported
aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in
interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition
into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such
common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without
violating any provision of this part....
 
Note that notification is ONLY required when shipping to someone OTHER than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector.

When would that be?

The only time I can think of would be if I had a match in another state and I send my own gun for me to pick up in that state upon my arrival.
 
The only time I can think of would be if I had a match in another state and I send my own gun for me to pick up in that state upon my arrival.

Why not just take the guns with you if traveling out of state? I think it would be alot easier. Ive done it several times. I dont travel anywhere without my gun. You cant take it on the plane as carry-on. Has to be in some kind of box thats locked. My first time I just used the plastic case the gun came in w/ a padlock. when you check your bags let them know you have a gun packed and they put an orange tag on your suitcase. Then you pick it up when you land.
 
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