What has the NRA done for gun owners?

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A HUGE amount, that's what.

Without the NRA's efforts on behalf of gun owners, we would most likely not have had the victories of the past two years - or the victories we had in the 2004 elections.

Don't let it all go down the drain on November 7!! Vote for progun candidates, regardless of party affiliaion!

NRA-PVF grades and endorsements are now available online at www.NRAPVF.org.

And if you are not a member of the NRA, by all means become one ASAP!

PRO-GUN VICTORIES IN THE 109TH CONGRESS-
Gun Owners’ Victories Since the 2004 Elections


Elections matter. Precisely because of our work and success in the 2002 and 2004 elections, we were able to lay the groundwork for the victories that you will read about below. Now the question before us is, “What will the future hold?” Two years from now, will we be reporting on more victories in our quest to protect and preserve the Second Amendment? Or, will our update contain bad news for gun owners? Election Day -- Tuesday, November 7 -- will be when the next chapter in the history of the Second Amendment will be written. Your work in the coming weeks will be what spells the difference between pro- and anti-gun candidates on Election Day. Thus, you will write the future legislative history of the Second Amendment.

Following is a list of the major federal victories we have seen during the 109th Congress:

· Enactment of the “Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act.”
Within a year of Hurricane Katrina hitting the Gulf Coast, Congress passed the NRA-backed H.R. 5013, sponsored by Representative Bobby Jindal (R-La.), by an overwhelming 322-99 vote. This bill amended federal emergency laws to prohibit federal, state, and local authorities from confiscating lawfully-owned firearms during emergencies or disasters. Senator David Vitter’s (R-La.) amendment to prohibit the use of funds appropriated under the Homeland Security appropriations bill (H.R. 5441) for the confiscation of lawfully possessed firearms during an emergency or disaster passed the U.S. Senate by an historic 84-16 vote. The Jindal bill was substituted for the Vitter amendment in the conference committee and President Bush signed it into law on October 4.

· Enactment of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.”
President Bush, marking the culmination of six years of hard work by NRA-ILA and gun owners nationwide, signed “The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (S. 397) into law on October 26, 2005, thus ending the campaign of politically motivated lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding American firearm manufacturers and retailers. The Senate passed S. 397 by a 65-31 vote on July 29, 2005 and then by the House by a 283-144 vote on October 20, 2005.

· Enactment of the “Tiahrt Amendment.”
This amendment protects gun owners’ privacy by prohibiting the release of firearm trace data to any entity except a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation involving the firearm.

· Enactment of a tax exemption for custom gunsmiths.
During the same week the Senate passed S. 397, NRA-ILA helped win an important but less-publicized victory for small custom gunsmiths. A massive highway construction bill (which President Bush promptly signed into law) contained an amendment that exempts manufacturers of fewer than 50 firearms from “manufacturing” excise taxes.

· House Passage of H.R. 5092.
The NRA-backed “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) Modernization and Reform Act,” by Representatives Howard Coble (R-N.C.) and Bobby Scott (D-Va.), passed the U.S. House of Representatives by an overwhelming bi-partisan 277-131 vote. H.R. 5092 was drafted in large part to address BATFE abuses at Richmond, Virginia area gun shows last year, which were detailed in three oversight hearings by the House Crime Subcommittee this spring. The measure will help curb BATFE’s efforts to revoke dealers’ licenses for minor paperwork errors, establish new guidelines for BATFE investigations, and improve the appeals process for dealers. It will also provide more accountability and much-needed reform to this federal law enforcement agency.

· Enactment of critical hunting and conservation legislation.
Sportsmen and wildlife scored a critical victory when House and Senate negotiators approved a provision in the 2007 Defense Authorization Act that will save the herds of elk and mule deer on Santa Rosa Island (the second largest of California’s Channel Islands) from court-ordered eradication. With encouragement from NRA-ILA, this Congress correctly determined it is in the public interest to maintain this sanctuary for these two remarkable species of animals.

Clearly, the past two years represent one of the most successful congressional sessions that gun owners have ever had. But make no mistake--all of our hard work and vital victories must be protected! This year’s elections are critically important, as their outcome will determine whether our hard-fought gains will stand or fall.

The House Judiciary Committee has just sent several important pro-gun reform bills to the floor, but if control of the Congress changes hands, the new chairman of that committee would be John Conyers of Michigan—the only House member still serving who voted for the Gun Control Act of 1968, voted against the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act of 1986, denounced crime-fighting proposals (such as Project Exile) that to his way of thinking “unwisely place a great emphasis on enforcement programs,” and has repeatedly called for a national ban on handgun ownership and possession!

And while many bills start out in Judiciary, they must all pass through the House Rules Committee before they go to the floor. The Rules Committee is a nearly all-powerful body that sets the ground rules for how a bill will be debated on the House floor—and on the amendments that can be offered. In line to fill that gate-keeping role: Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.). Rep. Slaughter is a persistent cosponsor of anti-gun bills, including a bill to ban .50 caliber rifles, and another to reverse the Bush administration’s policy of destroying instant check records on law-abiding gun buyers.

Of course, the last check on this anti-gun attack would be the House leadership itself. But don’t look for much hope there, because would-be Speaker Nancy Pelosi also has a decades-long anti-gun track record. Pelosi, a close ally of fellow San Franciscan Dianne Feinstein, co-chaired the 1992 Democratic platform committee that endorsed gun bans, gun licensing, and gun registration, and joined Conyers in opposing expansion of Project Exile enforcement programs against violent criminals. Pelosi’s sorry record on Second Amendment issues was underscored by one of her first acts on joining her party’s leadership; when she was elected House Minority Whip, she hired a former Handgun Control, Inc. spokesman as her communications director.

None of these pro-gun victories would have been possible with Pelosi, Conyers and Slaughter in control of the U.S. House of Representatives. The message for gun owners and sportsmen is obvious. Elections matter, and votes count. We cannot take our past victories for granted; we must continue the fight. Pro-Second Amendment candidates can only win if NRA members lend their support to those who support our gun rights and hunting heritage.
Link: http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=360
 
Yep. I just sent ILA another donation.

Remember, NRA cannot legally lobby, their ILA subsidiary has to do the lobbying work and they are not funded a great deal by NRA membership dues. I'm a life member of NRA but ILA still needs money.

Also, because of more legal stuff neither NRA nor ILA can donate DIRECTLY to a candidate. There is a Political Victory Fund for that, so if you want to fund a candidate directly, donate to PVF while you're there.

These laws are in place precisely for this reason, to make it difficult for NRA and other groups to get things done.
Don't let the system win.
 
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These laws are in place precisely for this reason, to make it difficult for NRA and other groups to get things done.

And a lot of that was caused by the McCain-Feingold Act, which was created by a Republican controlled House and Senate, signed by a Republican president, and then upheld by a predominantly Republican appointed Supreme Court.
 
And a lot of that was caused by the McCain-Feingold Act, which was created by a Republican controlled House and Senate, signed by a Republican president, and then upheld by a predominantly Republican appointed Supreme Court.
You are correct. Moral of the story? Not all traitors come from one political party - but about 90% of them do.
 
This sucks. I want to give but I am majorly hard up for cash until my house sells in november.

Is there anyway you can do a NRA life member thing but give the money to someone other than the NRA, like the ILA or the legal defense fund?
 
Does the NRA-ILA still advertise those credit cards where they earn some $$ for every purchase I make? I looked on their website and I could not find any info on it. :confused:
 
Yes, both parties suck. We know. Thanks for telling us for the 10,000th time. Now get the thread back on topic.
 
Quote>"Yep. I just sent ILA another donation".

Me too!


Quote>"However, the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for this".

Absolutely true and a damned shame . Greed and complacency seems to be the rule for far to many Republicans in office now. If the Dems do take over the house and/or Senate you can bet gun control issues will be right up near the top of their list regardless of the fact that many of them are skirting this subject now.
 
beerslurpy:

Is there anyway you can do a NRA life member thing but give the money to someone other than the NRA, like the ILA or the legal defense fund?

Sure. It's the same way you get to buy a new car instead of paying your lawyer for the work he does for you. I think it's one of the subjects you take in your last year of law school. Share the details with us when you get to that stage. :)
 
Yup, those laws split the NRA into 3 entities so now its 3 checks to write instead of just one.

The NRA has been quite helpful out here in California. The Members Councils, Calguns.net and members were busy during the final days of the last Assembly session. We sent Koretz home bleeding after his Microstamping bill was presented to the floor for a vote 7 times, failing each time.

Last I heard, Microstamping landed in New Jersey to a standing ovation. I'm sure its coming to a legislature near you soon.

Also Governor vetoed the mail order ammo bill AB 2714, another one we called, faxed and mailed heavily to his office.

We are the NRA, we are our own lobbyists. The NRA officials are at the national scene, its up to us to raise cain locally and force the issues uphill or out of office, starting with the City Councils.

Yup, NRA does good.
Plus I get this really cool blue hat with big block letters NRA, that seems to disturb people:D

Vick
 
I broke with the NRA over their agreeing to the assault gun ban. Clearly, the LPMR (Little Plastic Muskrat Rifle) is a military or militia rifle and covered by the Second Amendment. It is not their constitution to bargain with.

The main difference I see between them and the anti-gunners is the rate at which the right is removed. Anti-gun tyrants want to remove it all at once wheras the NRA will do it one gun type at a time. All the while proclaiming great victories for preserving most of the right. Where does that lead in thirty or fifty years?

Strangely, I do not even own a varmint rifle, never mind an LPMR, and I have no use for them. This does not mean that I would deny the rifle to any sane and law abiding citizen. Maybe they like the bang or how the tin can dances when they hit it, I don't know. Whatever the reason, how they spend their money isn't any of my business or the NRA's.
 
I was thinking about this the other day while stuck in Beltway traffic.

The NRA has done a good job on the strategic front, as noted above. While I can't comment on other states, here in Maryland it surely seems that they are deliberately working against us with regards to the elections.

The local rep is engaged in what appears to be a vendetta against a Delegate who beat her father in an election, the ILA fails to endorse vocal pro-gun incumbents in favor of tepid new comers, the NRA fails to appear in Annapolis for gun hearings and they encourage their political cut out organization to attack grassroots activists.

It's almost as if they don't want Maryland to be successful.
 
I suppose any organization is going to have power hungry folks and those with no concept of how to perform in a leadership role. Abuse of authority has always been a problem with humans. Seems to be more so now with so many vying for any kind of spotlight rather than working for the good of all as a team.

One of the things that took me a long time to get my head wrapped around was the concept of the NRA being an absolute single issue entity. How can you support someone who raises taxes, redistributes wealth, wants free medical for all and drivers licenses for illegal immigrants yet is progun?

We have a serious problem out here in California with apportionment or redistricting.
We have a problem with politicians spending tax revenues and wanting more to give away.
We have a problem with numerous Propostion initiatives appearing on the ballots every 2 years. The potlickers prefer to do the hard stuff by a democratic vote of the people rather than actually performing as a representitive of their constituents.

With all the clout the NRA has you'd think they'd look at some of these other issues and throw their weight via endorsements behind the proper candidates or initiatives.

Who defines "proper"? Many ideas on that definition and then further splintering and erosion of membership and less clout with politicians. NRA is the one outfit that left Feinstein in shock & awe.

We are the NRA, we are our own lobbyist. It is the one organization where you can move up the line and do good for your local area, if no one is paying attention someone with a personal agenda is going to get the leadership nod and wreak havoc with the little bit of authority he/she or it may have.

We have members councils out here http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/ that do perform quite well. With a population in excess of 35 million people, this state is a tough nut to get a majority to think somewhere along the same lines on anything. NRA has to maintain a narrow focus or lose members.

Check your reps credentials, she may be a disgruntled castoff from the brady bunch. Seems like the women have a higher percentage of emotions involved in the decision making process than a guy. Like that "Cow Patty" song goes, "You only have to kill her Daddy once to get that gal PO'ed".

Then logic dissipates.

Vick
 
Norton:
According to some in the NRA, its sometimes best for them not to touch races in MD given the delicate situation for pro-gunners. In the more liberal areas, the antis use an NRA endorsement against a candidate more than the pro-gunners come out to vote, so why hurt the best candidate?

Kharn
 
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I broke with the NRA over their agreeing to the assault gun ban.
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What are you talking about?

When was it NRA policy to support the assault weapons ban?

How exactly did the NRA "agree to" the AWB?

This kind of comment needs some kind of evidence to back it up.

The NRA fought the AWB tooth and nail when it was originally passed. When it became clear that the bill would pass despite their opposition, they changed tactics and started working state-by-state for concealed carry laws. A couple of years later, they tried to get the AWB repealed and nearly succeeded. In 2004, the NRA killed their own lawsuit protection bill after the Democrats attached AWB renewal to it.

If you can prove your assertion of the NRA supporting the AWB, please do so.
 
Kharn,

I agree with you and a perfect example is Ehrlich where he specifically asked for a "B" rating and no endorsement so that it wouldn't be used against him.

What I'm more concerned about is the fact that the NRA rep and their associated mouthpipe, Tripwire, have actively campaigned AGAINST pro-gun legislators and in one case specifically because of that legislator defeating the NRA rep's father in a political race.
 
No, no, no, no....

Don't you guys know ANYTHNG?

Every good "no-compromise" hardcore, rugged individualist libertarian gunnie KNOWS that the NRA is nothing but a bunch of wimpy sell-outs and do-nothings who are all actually probably on the payroll of the Brady Campaign.

I mean don't you guys all recall how after Katrina and the gun confiscations that the NRA did NOTHING while rugged, hardcore individualist libertarian gunnie organizations immediately fired off a whole bunch of ANGRY PRESS RELEASES?????

:rolleyes:

hillbilly
 
Murray B it is gun owners like you that give us all a bad name.

The NRA is by far the largest most powerful progun org in the world. If you think you could start an organization that could do better then you should start something and give it a shot.


Norm Walker
NRA-ILA EVC for WI3
 
Sturmruger, I'm a little surprised that you attack me personally for saying that something as important as a constitutional right cannot be left to any organization.

Over decades the right has eroded and you must know that. If this continues then it is hard to see how there will be any such a right in a few decades.

Assault rifles, then handguns with large magazines or short barrels. Then what? Semi-automatics probably, then repeaters. Finally they will ban single shots and everyone will have the RKBA for nothing at all.

Now can anyone with a little experience explain to me why this political "battle" is any more real than pro wrestling?

Oh yes, for those who insist on proof, go do your homework. Go and read about how Ronald Reagan supported the assault weapon ban and look what the NRA did back then to stop him. Sure they changed their minds since then but that don't change what they did by one bit.

What this really proves is that you cannot trust anyone else to protect your rights which I guess is why they made the RKBA in the first place.

Now I do believe that the NRA can be a force for good but only if you trust them zero and watch them always. Otherwise they will just tend to do what is politically expedient.

Now why don't the tyrants attack me personally some more?
 
h yes, for those who insist on proof, go do your homework. Go and read about how Ronald Reagan supported the assault weapon ban and look what the NRA did back then to stop him.

Reagan was out of office and battline Alzheimers when he came out in support of the AWB. What do you think the NRA should have done to "stop him" from speaking out?

They did help defeat the AWB every year in Congress from 1989 to 1993. I think that should be worth something. They probably could have done it again in 1994; but the Democratic leadership made it a party unity issue - vote the party line or lose your funding.
 
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