What is going on with guns

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Plenty of US gun owners seem to be afraid of their own shadows.

They already seem to have capitulated in the psychological “war”.

88 million gun owners, with so many now apparently afraid to sell a few personal guns- and usually without any profit.
The vast majority of private sellers aren’t “high-profile”, therefore why would the ATF be Aware of a routine transaction (10s of Thousands per day..) or Care about a “drop” in the wide river?😌

If by "capitulated in the psychological "war"" you mean refuse to break the law, then count me among them.,

Law and order isn't just for when it's convenient. We fight our battles in the courts and honor the results. BTW, guns have never been more plentiful or less regulated, so there's that...
 
If folks are telling you to relax and not worry they are foolish. If they are spouting dire prophesies and telling you to expect a knock on the door they are making money. You probably don't need people telling you what to do. You need to read the documents, cross check them, and do what you believe is appropriate to protect your interests and the interests of like minded people.
 
A couple of videos from Armed Attorneys. The way they parse the rule sounds pretty threatening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIqXtHf5sWw - Top 3 Targets of New Gun Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i63SlESvpTk - Breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ibswxgL4k - Your Questions Answered
The armed attorneys have a business to promote, thus an agenda to push. From what I’ve read, this new interpretation won’t apply to gun owners legitimately selling their own guns. It applies to those who are churning over large numbers of guns yearly.
 
So far there's been no number attached, but considering 5 guns is a large number to non-gun people...even if what you said is specifically stated, it can still be applied arbitrarily.
I have no crystal ball, but use of the word “collections” should carry some weight when applying the law.

I have only sold one gun ever, but I’ve given many to relatives and friends.

There was a similar ruling by the IRS pertaining to eBay sales. They tried to tax all sales proceeds but in the end only tax people who constantly buy and flip items on eBay, but not those occasional sellers selling personally owned items. I’m talking income tax, not sales tax.
 
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Probably the worst thing in the new CFR language is the phrase "pecuniary gain."
They did not, in the pages of "clarification" embedded in the CFR manage to define that.
It's not a common word in American English usage, outside of specialist uses.
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So, a "plain English" reading is "monetary gain." Whazzat? Dunno. I'll know when I sees it. Yeah, not helpful.

Some of the less reactionary legal folks I have talked to are convinced that AFTE really, really wants a way to go find Joe Bubba what goes to the Podunk Gun Show and finds Gemma or Unc Ted or the like who has found some firearm in the estate of a deceased relative, and has no idea of the current market value of the item, and just wants rid of it, soonest. Joe Bubba then gives the US$25, 50, or hundred, knowing it will "flip" for several hundred (picture a classic S%W revolver or Marlin lever gun here, and think about current prices).

Now, I do not have a very high opinion on predatory and "near predatory" Joe Bubbas out there taking advantage of ignorance. Even as I am of the opinion that "Ignorance may be bliss, but it may also be costly, too." That's me. We humans are supposed to be able to hold more than one opinion of things at the same time.

But, we expect regulatory agencies to only hold one at a time, because, as they possess some portion of the Police Power of the State, we'd all like them to be predictable. Capricious, random, and/or unpredictable enforcement is a bane of human existence (despite being sadly endemic to human governments).

So, have ATFE made their position more clear? Not from my view of it. Have they made things worse? Probably, few such Agencies have the ability to make things 'better.' Should we panic? Probably not. Should we want better? Absolutely. Do I know how to get to better? Not the first clue. Bureaucrats appear to be as bad at this, historically, as autocrats.
 
"Law and order isn't just for when it's convenient. We fight our battles in the courts and honor the results."

TV must be broke, way past that. Almost to "torches and pitchforks." Joe
 
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