Labguy47
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The only way I think a bond arms wins is the 45/410 version. With the new defense.410 designed for the judge and S&W, those disks mean business.
What is the best caliber stack barrel Derringer made?
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The only way I think a bond arms wins is the 45/410 version. With the new defense.410 designed for the judge and S&W, those disks mean business.
Deanimator
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Back in the '60s, my uncle shot himself in the finger with one trying to shoot the guy who robbed him while he was driving a cab. While struggling with the robber, he drove up onto the sidewalk and through the wall of a dry cleaners. The robber bailed and he took a shot at him and missed, hitting himself in the index finger because he pulled the trigger with his second finger while his trigger finger masked the muzzle. He found a toy gun on the floor in the back of the cab.
kBob
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DEanimator,
Had a Buddy that burned his finger tip with a High standard that way. Lots of folks had the idea that if one used the pointer finger along side the barrels that the gun "naturally" pointed at the target when fired with the second finger.
As long as we are talking about collecting Might as well have one of the bagillion Rohm ".38 Spezial" German made wonders with nothing resembling a safety from the 1960's DON'T SHOOT IT, just admire it through the glass. I actually shot one a fair bit 30 years ago mainly with DEWC hand loads and a little bit of shot (which did well actually at two meters) but since then have only fired it twice just for giggles, once with Speer Plastic Practice ammo and once with DIY Wax Bullets...and please don't tell my wife I did those last two! They were just too easy to have a unplanned shot with.
My brother in law pocket carried a High Standard .22 Magnum for decades in his store in case he was more than a step away from his revolver in its nook.
Of course if you are going to collect Double Ds you have to have an 1871 Remington in .41 RF! But see comments about looking at it "through the glass."
-kBob
Had a Buddy that burned his finger tip with a High standard that way. Lots of folks had the idea that if one used the pointer finger along side the barrels that the gun "naturally" pointed at the target when fired with the second finger.
As long as we are talking about collecting Might as well have one of the bagillion Rohm ".38 Spezial" German made wonders with nothing resembling a safety from the 1960's DON'T SHOOT IT, just admire it through the glass. I actually shot one a fair bit 30 years ago mainly with DEWC hand loads and a little bit of shot (which did well actually at two meters) but since then have only fired it twice just for giggles, once with Speer Plastic Practice ammo and once with DIY Wax Bullets...and please don't tell my wife I did those last two! They were just too easy to have a unplanned shot with.
My brother in law pocket carried a High Standard .22 Magnum for decades in his store in case he was more than a step away from his revolver in its nook.
Of course if you are going to collect Double Ds you have to have an 1871 Remington in .41 RF! But see comments about looking at it "through the glass."
-kBob
Armored farmer
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It's only $300/barrel!
chicharrones
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WestKentucky
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I think an argument can be made for the long 32 calibers. It’s a compromise where you trade mass and momentum for speed and a recoil reduction. 32 mag would likely be preferable over .327 in such a small gun, but both would spit out a bullet in the 110-125 grain range faster than a 158gr 38spl. Throw 9mm into the mix and your talking about the same bullet weight at a similar velocity and a fatter bullet. Do you want a wider wound channel or a deeper wound channel. These are the preferable rounds for the lighter and smaller derringers, but if you step up to a bigger and heavier gun like the Bond then your talking 45acp, 45colt, or .410. Of those, I’m picking a .410 with a stack of buckshot just to increase the odds of a hit.
BigBlue 94
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My American derringer in 45/410 is very nice feeling. Shoots well too. Shown with a Case 303 throwing knife.
Jim Watson
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American Derringer makes a .38 (and .40!) version of the High Standard double action OU. A lot easier to get into action than the Remington pattern.
JN01
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If you're a real man, get an American Derringer in .45/70.
Jakemedic
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Bought a .38 special American Derringer last weekend at an auction. Shot it last evening. FUN gun and accurate for what it is. Did just fine at 6’. Generally with 2” groupings for both shots. Did I mention how much fun it was to shoot?
Gordon
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Had a German made .22 Rem o/u when i was about 16, until dad found it and took it away. I legally bought my first pistol at 19 tho in Macon Georgia at college- a Beretta .25
Had a High Standard .22 Mag in one tour of VN, my last tour as a last ditch deal. It was good to get rid of rats in bunkers too.
Had a fine old nickel .41 Remington I got from an old Salinas Cowboy in 76 who carried it in a folded bandanna in a vest pocket, said it got him out of lots of jams. Came with a few vintage shells and I bought 3 boxes of Navy Arms ones loaded in Brazil that were snappy compared to them. I tested it and it almost went thru a redwood 4x4 at point blank range , it could hit a paint can at 50 feet if you knew barrel spread. I liked it and carried it in a folded hankie like he did about 5 years in rough parts of Salinas
Bought a rare .45 LC Uberti made "Maverick" as rccomended by Elmer Keith , very well made and pretty but big and heavy, just recently gave it to an very old Idaho relative who has no pistol in his remote cabin. My son will probably get it back soon
Had a cop .357 Pepper box - it was a POS and sold it for what I was into it- about $350 in early 80s. Heavy, terrible trigger and totally inaccurate
Had a Uberti copy .22lr Sharps Pepper box , lost it hiking in 80s around Pyramid lake It was well made and I liked it , ran shot in it mostly.
Have an Old Hy Hunter .22 Mag and now also a .38 special one , wish it was .38 S&W,for Cowboy side matches which I used to shoot with the .45 Maverick . They are not really safe to regularly carry but loads of fun and well made if you handle them carefully .
Have a Colt .22 Short remington single barrel one- for laughs
Have a tiny German made drop barrel single shot in nickel that is .22lr and well made and very tiny - fun and actually it has a cross bolt safety so is safe, it was made in 1967 ,
Have a Pedersoli screw barrel .44 drop trigger derringer sized cap lock to go with the BP stuff, it's strong and accurate and as it is sealed up well can be left loaded for a period, I love it !
Sometimes I hide it out - discretely
and thats about it !
. If I was to buy one the older smaller frame American .45 Colt/.410s look good but are as big and heavy as the old Maverick I had, almost.
Had a High Standard .22 Mag in one tour of VN, my last tour as a last ditch deal. It was good to get rid of rats in bunkers too.
Had a fine old nickel .41 Remington I got from an old Salinas Cowboy in 76 who carried it in a folded bandanna in a vest pocket, said it got him out of lots of jams. Came with a few vintage shells and I bought 3 boxes of Navy Arms ones loaded in Brazil that were snappy compared to them. I tested it and it almost went thru a redwood 4x4 at point blank range , it could hit a paint can at 50 feet if you knew barrel spread. I liked it and carried it in a folded hankie like he did about 5 years in rough parts of Salinas
Bought a rare .45 LC Uberti made "Maverick" as rccomended by Elmer Keith , very well made and pretty but big and heavy, just recently gave it to an very old Idaho relative who has no pistol in his remote cabin. My son will probably get it back soon
Had a cop .357 Pepper box - it was a POS and sold it for what I was into it- about $350 in early 80s. Heavy, terrible trigger and totally inaccurate
Had a Uberti copy .22lr Sharps Pepper box , lost it hiking in 80s around Pyramid lake
It was well made and I liked it , ran shot in it mostly.Have an Old Hy Hunter .22 Mag and now also a .38 special one , wish it was .38 S&W,for Cowboy side matches which I used to shoot with the .45 Maverick . They are not really safe to regularly carry but loads of fun and well made if you handle them carefully .
Have a Colt .22 Short remington single barrel one- for laughs
Have a tiny German made drop barrel single shot in nickel that is .22lr and well made and very tiny - fun and actually it has a cross bolt safety so is safe, it was made in 1967 ,
Have a Pedersoli screw barrel .44 drop trigger derringer sized cap lock to go with the BP stuff, it's strong and accurate and as it is sealed up well can be left loaded for a period, I love it !
Sometimes I hide it out - discretely
and thats about it !
. If I was to buy one the older smaller frame American .45 Colt/.410s look good but are as big and heavy as the old Maverick I had, almost.
MillCreek
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I still have the American Derringer DA-38 derringer that I bought new back in the 80's. Very well made but somewhat impressive to shoot. I have not carried it much.
I only have a data point of one, a Bond Arms.
The longer barrel 45 Colt/.410 shotshell has some potential, but I find it difficult to shoot well even with .410-2-1/2" shells. I got it for a critter gun while I am bush hogging on the tractor.
I have a 38 Special barrel and a 327 Mag barrel. Both are easier to shoot better than the 45/.410 barrel.
The gun has been 100% reliable and well made.
The longer barrel 45 Colt/.410 shotshell has some potential, but I find it difficult to shoot well even with .410-2-1/2" shells. I got it for a critter gun while I am bush hogging on the tractor.
I have a 38 Special barrel and a 327 Mag barrel. Both are easier to shoot better than the 45/.410 barrel.
The gun has been 100% reliable and well made.
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.45 Colt, either just in .45 Colt or also chambered for .410.
.45 Colt is going to hit hard out of a derringer barrel and I've got handloads that use two .454 round balls that act like a .410 and .45 Colt shotshells from CCI work just fine at super short distances. You don't lose much having a .45 Colt only derringer or revolver.
I don't care for derringers, but I think only Bond makes a .45 Colt derringer that's worth buying. I think Cobra makes one, but it's expensive and if you're gonna pay that money, get a Bond instead. Bond just came out with aluminum framed derringers that cost less and weigh less, so IMO there's no reason to go Cobra unless you can get it for like, $100 less than Bond.
Don't buy Leinad/Cobray o/u derringers. The sights on them are terrible, if you must get a Leinad/Cobray derringer, get the SxS.
.45 Colt is going to hit hard out of a derringer barrel and I've got handloads that use two .454 round balls that act like a .410 and .45 Colt shotshells from CCI work just fine at super short distances. You don't lose much having a .45 Colt only derringer or revolver.
I don't care for derringers, but I think only Bond makes a .45 Colt derringer that's worth buying. I think Cobra makes one, but it's expensive and if you're gonna pay that money, get a Bond instead. Bond just came out with aluminum framed derringers that cost less and weigh less, so IMO there's no reason to go Cobra unless you can get it for like, $100 less than Bond.
Don't buy Leinad/Cobray o/u derringers. The sights on them are terrible, if you must get a Leinad/Cobray derringer, get the SxS.
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Gordon
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Looks like I won an in the box American ultra liteweight .38 Derringer in the box with papers for less than $300 with shipping and registration. A good buy I think it is smaller than the regular Bond arms models it is smaller American M7 and is all aluminum " hardened aircraft alloy with a stainless barrel liners. It weighs 7 oz unloaded! I been looking for on of these for a while, but they we're $500 or so. They have a manual safety that looks like it blocks firing pins, if so I'll carry it in vest pocket.
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theotherwaldo
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My favorite is still the Remington Double Derringer in .41 short rimfire.
The original.
The original.
Catshooter
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I like the American Derringer in .45 Auto/.45 Auto Rim. But then I am a sucker for a .45.
Cat
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Armored farmer
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I have a Davis .22mag in my emergency kit. It is minute of pizza box(large).
I never warmed up to it much.
I would be tempted to try one in .380 or 9mm if there is such.
I never warmed up to it much.
I would be tempted to try one in .380 or 9mm if there is such.
gonoles_1980
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I have a Bond Arms Backup in 9mm, I doubt I'd use it as a backup, I'd go with my .380 Beretta Pico first. I bought it in 9mm, because I have a ton of 9mm brass. Also bought it, for novelty, it's fun to shoot at the range. Not sure how accurate I'd be past 10 ft with it.
Chevelle SS
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I saw one at my local gunshow a month ago for $900 or $1000. It didn't sell.
aggie bill
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I have a Bond Arms derringer which I believe is the best. I had no knowledge of derringers until I met Gordon Bond at a Gun Club Of America get together in San Antonio a few years ago. He explained the history of the company, explained the manufacturing process, and showed several examples. When I got home I ordered one. This is what I have Now.
I have 3 barrels, 45 Colt/410, 357 magnum/38 Special and a 22lr. I bought the extended grips for better hold. As the picture shows, the barrels are easy to change. I like this as a gun in the car. I use the 22lr barrel because the trigger pull is a little different than most guns and it allows me to practice inexpensively.
If you wanted to carry this holster is available.
I have 3 barrels, 45 Colt/410, 357 magnum/38 Special and a 22lr. I bought the extended grips for better hold. As the picture shows, the barrels are easy to change. I like this as a gun in the car. I use the 22lr barrel because the trigger pull is a little different than most guns and it allows me to practice inexpensively.
If you wanted to carry this holster is available.
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