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What kind of guns do the bad guys carry?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by GunnyUSMC, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. tipoc

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    Well it looks like the answer to the original question, "What kind of guns do the bad guys carry?" is...The same as everyone one else.
     
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  2. GunnyUSMC

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    I have nothing to do with destroying them. My dept. was destroying almost 1000 guns a year, but have stopped. They are working out a deal with a company that will destroy the guns for us.
    Now if there is a court order for a gun to be destroyed, our Evidence division will chop it up.
     
  3. P5 Guy

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    Any attempt made to return stolen guns?
     
  4. GunnyUSMC

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    Yes. Stolen guns are returned to the reporting agencies. If they are reported stolen through our dept. A court order to release the gun is needed. That is picked up from the DA's office, stating that the gun is not needed as evidence and can be released.
    Our DA is a gun guy and he is big on getting guns back to their owners.
     
  5. Charlie Horse

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    Gunny, do y'all do gun condemnations?
     
  6. GunnyUSMC

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    We don't have a disapproval of gun. Just criminals with guns.
    Now we do get grants to do gun buy backs but I have no part in those. But all guns that are picked up on gun buy backs are destroyed, unless they are stolen.
     
  7. Charlie Horse

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    I haven't seen one done in years, mainly because we're have precious few shootings, but back in the 1990s it was more common. Bad guy shoots at officer, officer gets court order to take possession of the gun for duty use. I have mixed feelings about those. A friend of mine wound up with a nice Colt Gold after Julius T. Badguy tried to kill him with it. I'm glad he wound up with it instead of it being destroyed but there was a time later when it was questioned as a conflict of interest.
     
  8. GunnyUSMC

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    It's been over 20 years now, but back in the day an officer could submit paperwork to claim up to two guns that they had recovered that were not used in violent crimes or stolen. I'm not really sure how it worked because, it was no longer done when I came on.
    My dept. does not use any evidence or recovered guns. It was brought up a few years ago that we were destroying guns that the department could use. The powers that be said that if there were guns that were needed, they would be bought brand new.
     
  9. theotherwaldo

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    Around here, confiscated firearms and other items of value are usually sold at auction by the city or county. Some vehicles and specialized equipment are retained by a city or county, but nothing can be transferred directly to an individual city employee except through auction purchase.
     
  10. Texas10mm

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    Almost all Government entities sell surplus items to the public. There's no LOGICAL reason that confiscated, unclaimed firearms shouldn't be sold to the public. Government is always crying they don't have enough money but with firearms they are paying money to destroy money.
     
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  11. herrwalther

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    The government in my county destroys firearms that they acquire through criminal investigations. They keep the process very quiet, as there are many gun friendly people down here who would not mind picking up an auctioned off firearm. I believe one of the sheriff LTs said they do the process every 3-5 years, depending on how many firearms they take in. I haven't checked if the policy changed, as we did get a new sheriff elected this past January. When it comes to replacing duty firearms, first priority goes to the officer who carried it. As they are allowed to buy their duty weapon from the department at a fraction of retail price. Otherwise they get sold whole sale to a dealer who sells to the public as trade-in firearms.
     
  12. george29

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    The Good Guys in the Old West almost always carried a long gun. John Wayne in Rio Bravo depicting a Sheriff who never went anywhere without his Rifle was actually historically accurate except most lawmen were middle aged and portly, dressed like dappers (suits and bowlers such as Bat Masterson) and carried a short barrel shotgun.
    Bad guys in cars also carry rifles and shotguns just like they carry handguns outside their cars. Lots of bad guys with police and military background so to lump bad guys into a stereotype is dangerous.

    These officers were injured by an AK armed felon.

    https://www.officer.com/home/news/1...sheriffs-deputy-remains-in-critical-condition
     
  13. Trunk Monkey

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    When I tell anti-gun types about project exile they're flabbergasted. A big part of that is because they can't argue that putting felons in jail for carrying guns is a good way to get guns off the streets. Then they find out that the program was discontinued even though it was extremely successful and they don't know what to say
     
  14. FlSwampRat

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    I'm beyond that, I'm gabberflasted! I was unaware of Project Exile until reading about it here. My gun regulation radar is pretty focused on Fla and the Federal level. Reading about it, it sure sounds like something I'd support wholeheartedly. Bad guys getting more time for involving firearms in the being badness sounds like a great idea. Apparently it was as the statistics on crime in Richmond dropped dramatically.
    The part that is blowing my tiny little mind is that apparently some "gun groups" were against it. Not sure how any right thinking person could be against prohibited persons with guns getting extra time for having such on them. I don't care if you're pro or anti gun, this just seems like getting the system to work better for everyone's safety.
    Boggled.
     
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  15. Tommygunn

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    Some people are just SOOOOO entrenched in their ideology they cannot think beyond it. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen, philosophers and divines," wrote Ralph Waldo Emerson in an essay he titled SELF RELIANCE.

    Emerson had such a way with words ....:D
     
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    I remember discussing Project Exile with my Dad. He said that it wouldn't last because it actually took violent criminals off of the street. Violent criminals are food and drink for lawyers, and lawyers are the pupal form of the politician. Project Exile would put lawyers on a diet.
    Intolerable.
     
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  17. P5 Guy

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    JEB! had 10, 20, LIFE as a similar idea to keep criminals from getting and using guns in crime, but a RINO squashed that.
    Project Exile took the thugs to the federal prison far from family and friends. Intolerable, cruel, and unusual punishment compared to the wrist slap thugs are used to getting.
     
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  18. Jeb Stuart

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    I remember back when I was in the alarm industry, I made a call on a family that had a break in. As we were talking, the wife made a comment. "One thing, I do know is, the Burglars did not have a lot of class".
    I asked why and she replied, "they broke into the Whiskey Cabinet and only drank the cheap stuff".
     
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  19. JR24

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    Reminds me of a break in at a liquor store by one of my old towns. Theives ignored the several cases of high end whiskey, scotch and wine and just stole Hennessy and malt liquor.
     
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  20. P5 Guy

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    Considerate fellows left the good stuff and saved the victims from a second victimization.
     
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  21. GunnyUSMC

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    Here's another update.

    380 Auto:
    (1) Browning BDA
    (1) Ruger LC380
    (1) Remington RM380
    (1) Taurus PT738

    9MM:
    (1) S&W M&P9 Shield
    (1) S&W SD9VE
    (1) Glock 19
    (2) Glock 19 G4
    (1) Glock 26 G4
    (1) Glock 17
    (1) Glock 17 G4
    (1) Glock 17 G5
    (1) Taurus PT111G2
    (1) Ruger P95
    (1) SARARMS SARB6P (EAA)

    40 S&W:
    (1) Glock 23
    (1) Glock 23 G4
    (2) Glock 22 G4

    45 Auto:
    (1) Glock 36
    (1) Ruger P90DC

    5.56x45:
    PSA PA15 (pistol)

    7.62x39:
    Romarm Draco
     
  22. The Evangelist Cowboy

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    Is anybody going to San Antone?
    Did not expect to see a BDA on the list.
     
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  23. GunnyUSMC

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    We get some odd ones now and then.
     
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    Whoah, that is sketchy. If an officer can claim confiscated property, well . . . that way lies BIG problems. My understanding is that quite a few careers in quite a few departments have ended over issues in the property room. Even an officer buying something at auction raises issues, in my mind. Just too many opportunities for ethical slippage.
     
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