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What kind of guns do the bad guys carry?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by GunnyUSMC, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. illinoisburt

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    Not to side track the thread about types of guns which show up in police evidence, but I think SeanSW's experience is not that uncommon. I've been told and seen anecdotal evidence most residential burglaries are planned meaning the persons have an idea of what they're looking for, while auto break-ins are usually crimes of opportunity. So it behooves us all to be aware of who knows what is in your home, especially cash and guns.
     
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  2. WVGunman

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    Does that mean guys who use revolvers are more likely to get away with it?
     
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    Asking for a friend.;)
     
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    No, clearly guys who shoot revolvers are less likely to commit crimes.
     
  5. GunnyUSMC

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    Revolvers leave bullets in victims and at crime scenes, just like autos do and can be matched that way. It faster and easier to match cartridge cases.
     
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    CZ - choice of non- criminals!
     
  7. GunnyUSMC

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    They show up now and then.
     
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    Gunny, from your comments on the mishmash of ammo found in evidence guns it would appear that they do not shoot much except when committing the crimes, and perhaps are switching guns frequently and not as familiar with any particular or gun or even model. Is that your observation as well or not true?
     
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  9. GunnyUSMC

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    There are some that like their hollow points, and then there are those that just pick up whatever they can get their hands on.
    Now we do see a lot of FMJ. This is most likely because they want ammo that will run in just about any gun.
    When it comes to guns on the streets the Glocks have been the king, with the S&W Sigma/SD taking second. But then again they will use whatever they can get their hands on.
    They have pretty much gotten away from the cheaper guns and stay with th3 mid line stuff. But one thing that is very popular right now is high capacity magazines.
     
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  10. JR24

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    One I've noticed a few times on shows like "the first 48" or LivePD apart from extended mags in guns I didn't realize there were extended mags for, is 9mms occasionally being loaded with .380s.

    This something you see often?
     
  11. GunnyUSMC

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    9mm guns don’t tend to run very well with 380. Now and then we get 9mm cartridge cases that were fired from a 40.
    Now 9x18 is not so easy to come by. The thugs have found that most guns chambered in 9x18 will work great on 380.
    Last year we had a guy shooting 357 Sig in a 40 S&W. By the marking on the cartridge cases I knew he was using a S&W M&P. When the guy was caught he had a M&P40 loaded with 357 Sig.
     
  12. Browning

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    I ran across this and thought of this thread.

    https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/criminal-weapon-selection

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    So mostly mid-priced full size and compact pistols rather than the tiny 'Saturday Night Specials' that people used to think of.

    Some Saturday Night Specials are obviously still used. They just aren't out there quite as much.

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  13. GunnyUSMC

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    Here's the next batch of guns.

    380 Auto
    (1) Bryoc 38
    (1) Jimeneze Arms JA380
    (2) Jennings 48
    (1) Ruger LCP
    (1) Walther PK380

    9mm
    (6) Glock 19 G4
    (1) Glock 17
    (2) S&W SW9VE
    (2) S&W SD9VE
    (1) S&W M&P9 Shield
    (1) Ruger SR9
    (1) Ruger LC9
    (1) Ruger LC9s
    (1) Taurus PT111 PRO
    (1) Taurus PT111 G2
    (2) Taurus G2C
    (1) Springfield XDS
    (1) Springfield XD
    (1) Sig 938
    (1) Canik 55 TP9
    (1) Hi-Point C9
    (1) Bryco 148
    (1) Sccy CPX-1
    (1) Beretta 92FS

    40 S&W
    (2) Glock 27
    (1) Glock 23
    (1) Glock 22
    (1) Glock 27 G4
    (1) Taurus PT140
    (1) S&W SD40VE
    (1) S&W SD40
    (1) Springfield XDs

    10 mm
    (2) Glock 20

    45 Auto
    (1) Glock 30 G4
    (1) Glock 21
    (1) Glock 21FS
    (1) Rurer P97DC
    (1) Springfield XD

    7.62x39
    (1) WASR10
    (1) Zastava PAP M92PV
     
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    Had a rash of muggers targeting bears lately? Cage invasion at the zoo?
     
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    I remember on one of those stupid shows... Elementary maybe, there was a drive by and the detective noted that 10mm were "gangster guns".

    Uh, maybe they meant .40?
     
  16. GunnyUSMC

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    10 mm shows up from time to time and most often they are Glocks.
     
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    Here is the next batch.

    380 Auto
    (1) S&W Bodyguard
    (1) Glock 42
    (1) Kel-Tec P3AT
    (1) Diamondback DB380
    (1) Taurus PT638 Pro
    (1) Bersa Thunder 380
    (1) Hi-Point CF380
    (1) Jimenez Arms JA380
    (1) Lorcin L380

    9mm
    (1) S&W SD9
    (1) S&W M&P 9 Shield
    (1) S&W M&P9c
    (1) S&W M&P9
    (1) Ruger P98
    (1) Ruger LC9
    (1) Ruger LC9s
    (1) Ruger EC9s
    (1) Ruger E9
    (2) Glock 19
    (1) Glock 26
    (1) CZ CZ75
    (1) Taurus PT24/7
    (1) Taurus PT111
    (1) Taurus G2C
    (1) Taurus TH9C
    (1) Taurus PT92AF
    (1) Springdfield XD9 Compact
    (1) Beretta 92FS
    (1) SCCY CPX-2
    (1) Tri-Star T-120
    (1) Jimenez Arms JA Nine

    40 S&W
    (4) S&W SD40VE
    (1) S&W M&P40 Shield
    (2) Glock 22
    (1) Glock 23 G4
    (1) Springfield XD40
    (1) HK VP40

    45 Auto
    (1) Glock 30 G4
    (1) Springfield SDX Sub Compact

    10mm
    (1) Glock 20 G4

    5.56/.223
    (1) S&W M&P Sport II M&P15
    (1) Spike's Tactical AR15
     
  18. sota

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    is it interesting at all that no "ghost guns" have appeared in your lists? or is that something that would show up more with larger criminal enterprises?
     
  19. GunnyUSMC

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    In the last six years I have only seen one "GHOST GUN" come through the LAB. It was a case being worked by the State Police and the gun was an AR15. I don't remember what the case was about.
     
  20. theothermike

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    Gunny said a couple pages ago the street price of stolen guns was well under the legal retail of the guns. $250 for a ready to go glock or $500+ for a kit that requires assembly and testing with some tools and at least a little patience. These things are seldom found in low level gang thugs.
     
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  21. joseywales76

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    Thanks for the info. I usually don't care what happens in the big cities. But occasionally my job takes me down town. More info about how it all works is a good thing.
     
  22. Stevie-Ray

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    Aren't DEA agents the only ones "professional enough" to carry a .40?:rofl:
     
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  23. sota

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    Interesting. The day they start getting "smarter" people in the gangs it'll be intriguing for guys like Gunny.
     
  24. sherrick13

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    I guarantee the ammo was mismatched in the majority of the guns.

    Most of the guns of bad guys I encountered in my career had mismatched ammo.
     
  25. lemaymiami

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    Something I only learned over many years in police work... Just because we catch the stupid ones - doesn’t mean that all of them are stupid by any means. In their early years they do foolish things but the “system” actually educates them each time they go down.

    The older and more experienced a bad guy becomes the farther they get from high risk low profit activities. Their crimes get fewer and much more profitable. Any use of firearms is rare and carefully controlled (at least when they’re sober).

    Wish it weren’t so
     
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