Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

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Leathermarshmallow said:
with as many Taurus guns that are out there...I refuse to believe that they don't make a good gun.
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I agree, Taurus makes a pretty good revolvers (particularly for the value-conscious consumer), and produces good copies of other designs (Beretta 92 & Colt 1911), though their own pistol designs leave quite a bit to be desired IMO (I would call them mediocre at best, but it's still more than likely to go *bang*).

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This doesn't qualify as a lie just stupid.

Im looking at a stag model 3, so I decided to asked about transfer fees or if they stock them at a few local gun shops... Went to the closest, never really liked them since they told me my Glock could feed .45 gap because it was made for Glocks.... Yea... Anyway I inquired about the fee, prepared for the worst, upper side of 50$ maybe... nope, 20%!

Needless to say, I went 1 mile down the road to another shop, offered me 50 under msrp and no fee. I know where I won't be going back to.
 
FIVETWOSEVEN said:
A clip feeds a magazine, a magazine feeds a gun.
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When the American Shooting Teams came over to England prior to 1900 they mixed up the nomenclature with what the British Forces were using to feed the Lee Enfield rifles—the stripper clips fed the magazine which was removable but for cleaning only—no “Tommy” took extra magazine with them just stripper clips and spare rounds.

Really, then why did John Moses Browning call them clips in the first semi auto designs presented to the US and Belgium firms…Check the patent papers.

You 100% absolutely correct--a clip feeds a magazine which is the storage place in the internal working of a rifle, pistol or shotgun.

Just because the USA calls them magazines doesn't mean the rest of the world does although unfortunately too many countries are switching over to your terms since they are using your M16 rifles and parts lists.
 
So, I'm at a rifle range shooting and the guy a couple of lanes down keeps getting failure to extract with a M1 rifle. I always carry a cleaning rod, and let him knock out the stuck case a few times until he gives up. Very broad NY accent, quite an unforgettable gentleman.
Fast forward a few months and there is the same guy selling some Colonel's personal M1. In his broad NY accent and very loudly telling stories about this very rifle. Used in VietNam, Korea, and as issued in the WWII. With a 1954 HRA barrel? He does not remember me so I ask him for a closer inspection, and the name of the colonel, chat a bit about if the original owner was a colonel in WWII. Answered yes Green Berets can only advance to colonel? Anyway on inspection I recognize the rifle and the same chipped weak springed extractor. So I ask how it works and was told perfectly as the colonel rarely had to shoot at the enemy. Told that this rifle is all original and as issued in WWII.
I do know that M1s got a refurb, refit and overhaul many times. And I didn't call him on it.
 
Maybe so duns, but if you know what your buying...
Never buy a story unless the seller can provide provenance. And in a few minutes some one else would be at the table listening to the same "story".
 
The best lie that I have ever been taken with was at the last gunshow that I attended, at which I purchased a Henry .22 lever action. I was told that it wasn't shot much. I purchased for $200 and took my new treasure home. It jammed every other round and when I took it apart, I found that the loading block was made of plastic and looked as if a beaver had gnawed it. I ordered parts from henry arms and fixed said issue.
I try to be as honest as possible when dealing with anyone on anything, and to be flat out lied to just makes me loose a little more faith in humankind. I wouldn't lose my integrity over a dollar, but there are some that have no problems doing so. Thanks for letting me rant.
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I was looking at an old Italian army rifle, and the seller said "It's never been fired, and only dropped once." :)
 
Heard one today at a pawn shop in Missouri.

"Yeah you won't find the PF9 cheaper than that."

The price tag said $350.
 
SeekHer said:
When the American Shooting Teams came over to England prior to 1900 they mixed up the nomenclature with what the British Forces were using to feed the Lee Enfield rifles—the stripper clips fed the magazine which was removable but for cleaning only—no “Tommy” took extra magazine with them just stripper clips and spare rounds.

Really, then why did John Moses Browning call them clips in the first semi auto designs presented to the US and Belgium firms…Check the patent papers.

You 100% absolutely correct--a clip feeds a magazine which is the storage place in the internal working of a rifle, pistol or shotgun.

Just because the USA calls them magazines doesn't mean the rest of the world does although unfortunately too many countries are switching over to your terms since they are using your M16 rifles and parts lists.
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I just looked at Browning's patent papers. He refers to magazines as a "cartridge magazine or holder".

I'm not really sure what you're arguing. A magazine is the part of the firearm that holds cartridge, and from which they are fed one at a time into the chamber of the firearm. Magazines can be detachable, like on many modern semi-automatic firearms, or magazines can be integral, like on the Lee Enfield, many modern bolt-actions, many modern shotguns, lever-actions, etc.

Are you saying that in Britain and Canada a detachable magazine is (validly and traditionally) called a clip?
 
Not a seller, but I know a guy with a General Motors M1 Garand, and he has a GI issue .223 sniper AR that saw service in 'Nam.
 
Well today, at the gun show, a guy told me: "A semiautomatic shotgun isn't the best for Home Defense. You want a pump for that, because if you rack the slide, he's gonna think twice about doing whatever it is he's doing." I racked the pump several times. Nobody stained their pants.
 
I got a new one for you guys, for my Astra A-90, the plastic grip panels cracked, took it into the shop and requested some grip panels be made for replacement (only replacement I found was on GB and they were wood too, but I didn't want to pay $110 plus shipping for the things), plus I'm getting a better deal (or so I thought).

The lie, you ask? Said they'd be done in a month tops. That was back in late-March, early-April. It's been around seven months now, and STILL haven't gotten the grips or the frame back!
 
Well today, at the gun show, a guy told me: "A semiautomatic shotgun isn't the best for Home Defense. You want a pump for that, because if you rack the slide, he's gonna think twice about doing whatever it is he's doing." I racked the pump several times. Nobody stained their pants.
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Only thing the guy is gonna hear is the safety coming off my 1100.
 
mortablunt said:
Well today, at the gun show, a guy told me: "A semiautomatic shotgun isn't the best for Home Defense. You want a pump for that, because if you rack the slide, he's gonna think twice about doing whatever it is he's doing." I racked the pump several times. Nobody stained their pants.
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Yeah you hear someone break in so you rack your shotgun expecting to hear them run but they heard you and also racked theirs.
 
Shoot
lots of lies
but either I'm gullible or most of the places I frequent aren't so bad
worse one I hear was 'no there's not a matching bayonet' for a MN right out of the shipping crate, a slap to the back of the head (for letting a mismatched bayonet walk out the door) by his boss and 3 minutes later, I had my matching bayonet.
 
A friend of mine bought a Taurus pt92. I said oh that's a beretta copy right? He says no. It is a beretta. The guy at the gun show told me Taurus bought all the beretta machines and moved them to brazil. So it really is a beretta. Oh ok... Could of sworn I heard the same story about stoeger and moving the machines to turkey.
 
Ledge,

As far as I understand it, that is exactly what Taurus and Stoeger did. The difference is not in the physical size and shape of the individual components, but the metallurgy of the components.

Edit: And as it happens, I don't really know if I like the feel of the Stoeger 8045. It feels different from my Beretta. Without field stripping it, I couldn't say, but I am guessing there is a different finish and/or metallurgical compound used. After posting the first one, I had to run some errands so I drove by a LGS to handle one. YMMV
 
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Dulvarian said:
Ledge,

As far as I understand it, that is exactly what Taurus and Stoeger did. The difference is not in the physical size and shape of the individual components, but the metallurgy of the components.
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+1; with respect to the PT-92, it is the older (and IMO better) design of the Beretta 92 with the safety on the frame (rather than it's current location on the slide).

:)
 
You want a pump for that, because if you rack the slide, he's gonna think twice about doing whatever it is he's doing.
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Plus he knows that you escalated this situation to life or death, and he knows where you are. It's a bad myth that increases your chance of getting shot by providing the "enemy" with valuable intelligence on your intentions, position and armament.

The only way I want the bad guy to know I am there is in that last small fraction of a second when he perceives the muzzle flash.
 
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