which suppressor and why

[theboyscout]

Griffith armmment, Silencerco, Surefire, Gemtech, Dead Air, OSS, and the new LMT

Which do you pick and why?

I'm looking at getting one that can handle most of it. A single most versatile suppressor. I have read some good things about each company and there multi caliber suppressors. I would like to shoot pistol and rifle through it including 40 and 45. Maybe 357 sig if possible or 357 mag. rifle wise i want to shoot up to 30-06, 3030, and 35 Remington If possible.

Does it exist yet. is it possible. How close can i get to doing it all?

 

[Hoser]

To do all of that, you can get a SiCo Hybrid. It is on the loud side of things and not my first choice in a can.

Step away from the Jack of all trades thought.

Get a Thunderbeast Ultra 7 for rifle calibers, a Dead Air or AAC pistol can and a Thunderbeast TD22 for rimfires.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Concur with the above. Getting one can is like expecting a Ford 150 to corner like a Porche and get 50mpg while costing under $10k.

 

[greyling22]

so you can do everything but the 40 and 45acp with the liberty mystic. I have one, and it's quieter than my cousin's hybrid on everything we have tried it on. But you will spend a ton on mounts. Most people recommend getting a 45 cal pistol can and a 30 cal rifle can. It's expensive, but really works well. Personally, I'd look at a rugged obsidian in 45 and a yhm resonator in 30 cal.

I'm doing a form 1 30 cal can. bought a tube from diversified machine and am having an SOT do a recore. wait time for form 1 was 2 weeks. recore was quoted at about a month because he's busy, and the diversified tube took a month because he's backlogged too.

 

[FL-NC]

I have several from Gemtech. I chose them because I used them some in the military, and there was a period when I was getting really good deals on them. I also have a silencerco omega, which I also got an excellent deal on. I'm happy with all of them.

 

[MachIVshooter]

As Hoser said, the "Jack of all trades" like the Hybrid tend to give up a lot in each category for their alleged flexibility. The Hybrid is not a bad choice (and one of the few) for those who need to suppress a .35-45 cal rifle, but it's a poor choice for people shooting .338 & smaller. It's as loud as a ~5" K can on 5.56 ARs, and not much better than monocore junk on a .308. Aside from the huge apertures, the baffle profile and spacing is just all wrong for high velocity small bores. It does sound OK on a .45 handgun, but believe me, you'll quickly tire of a 1.6" diameter, 20 ounce can on the end of your pistol.

s Personally, I'd look at a rugged obsidian in 45 and a yhm resonator in 30 cal.

Solid recommendation. Resonator is a good can and a fantastic value, and unless you want Omega mount compatibility, the 1st generation Resonators are about to get really cheap as the R2 comes out. Like, maybe under $350 cheap. An alternative to the Obsidian for a do-all .45 pistol can would be the AAC Ti-Rant 45M.

As for rimfire suppressors, I recommend avoiding monocores, but otherwise choose based on features, aesthetics, price & availability. The Dead Air Mask is the hot ticket right now, but they all perform similarly among the top tier critters, running around 115 dB on rifles and 118-120 on handguns. If I were buying another manufacturer's, The TBAC Takedown, the DA Mask and the 3 offerings from AAC (Aviator 2, Element 2 and Halcyon) would be top contenders.

 

[rb288]

My first can was Specwar 762.
Shortly after that, I got 2 Hybrids to use on my 45acp and 9mm pistols.
With 9mm endcap it is very quiet.
I also have used it on my 30 cal guns with a 30cal endcap, and yes, it is not as quiet as a dedicated 30 can, but it is effective.
Since then, I have bought an Omega, a Specwar 556, a Rugged Obsidian 45, and a Rugged Oculus .22 can.
1 Hybrid is dedicated to my 450 bushmaster and the other is my "overall" backup, Jack if all trade, can.
The Hybrid is a very versatile can and is great as a first can.

 

[greyling22]

I'd buy a resonator for 350. Especially if i could get an adapter fabbed up so I could use the griffin taper mounts I already have.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

My decisioning was this. I wanted to find the most versatile suppressor at the time that would work for me that had very competitive noise reduction and not too heavy. I figured I would not be buying a different suppressor for every rifle I own. Mind you, this was three years ago, but I went with Silencerco Omega. It came with QD mount and thread mount. Right there was versatility for my guns. It had very good noise reduction and was fairly light weight. The operational parameters between full auto and SBR were pretty good as well (I have neither, btw, but the option seemed nice).

A lot of suppressors have come up since then and I would likely not make the same choice today as others such at their Silencerco Hybrid offer even more versatility. There may be even more versatile models out there with better noise reduction. I don't know.

Realistically speaking, you should still be wearing hearing protection regardless of the suppressor you buy, unless you are shooting subsonic.

 

[MistWolf]

Check out the offerings by Rex Silentium. Compare the weight & size to other suppressors and you'll see that you're getting a lot of performance for the money.

https://www.rexsilentium.com/RIFLE-Silencers-c28138007

 

[jmorris]

Interesting read for me, knowing the good company.

I have a few “name brands” but my “homemade” ones make less noise. They also have much more volume, so they should, even if they are not the latest and greatest, from a team of engineers and testers.

 

[Gtscotty]

One do all can is the starting point desire of every suppressor newbie, most wind up with at least a few after they figure out that a few slightly more specialized cans are a much better solution than one super-compromise can.

The usual path folks go is a rimfire can, a .30 cal rifle can, and a .45 cal pistol can.

Rimfire cans accumulate a lot of lead fouling and should be user serviceable, and preferably made of materials that allow for easy cleaning with harsh solvents like stainless steel and Ti. The top rated rimfire cans to check out right now would probably be:

Dead Air Mask HD
Rugged Occulus 22
TBAC 22 takedown
SiCo Switchback 22
Energetic Armament NYX

As for rifle cans, lighter is generally better, short is nice, but you strike a balance between length and suppression performance. Extreme toughness is a catchy selling point, but most folks aren't running their suppressors on short barreled machineguns, most mainstream cans out there are tough enough for most people's realistic uses. Over the top toughness in cans is fine except it almost always comes at the expense of weight, or cost, or both. Mounting options are an important consideration with rifle cans, it's nice to be able to switch between direct thread patterns, and QD options on the same can to fit different uses, conversely, being stuck with a single mount and no other options can suck. The Omega mount thread pattern (1 3/8" x 24) has become somewhat of an industry standard, cans with this mount thread can be used with a multitude of QD and DT mounts. I do not see near the buildup in rifle cans as I do rimfire and pistol, unless you specifically intend to shoot lead or coated rifle bullets, I would not want a user serviceable can as they are always heavier. In my latest rifle can purchase, I placed a lot of emphasis on weight, mount compatibility and length, my top choices were:

Dead Air Nomad 30 (what I bought)
Energetic Armament Vox S
SiCo Omega 300

Other cans I'd also look at now would be the Rex Silentium MG7, Rugged Radiant, TBAC Ultra 7, and Griffin Explorr.

For pistol cans, I think user serviceability is important because I like to use cheap lead and coated pistol bullets. Like with rimfire cans, I like SS (more common) or TI baffles.

For .45 cans, the top rated mainstream options seem to be the:

Obsidian 45 (got mine a few months ago)
Dead Air Ghost M
AAC Tirant 45 M

All three are modular cans, so you can run them in a short and long configuration. I like the Obsidian in short configuration on my 9mm pistol, and long configuration on my .44 mag rifle. The Obsidian is big on a .22, but actually sounds alright.

I'm not sure about the other two, but the Obsidian .45 is rated for chamberings like .45-70, .44 mag, 450 BM and 350 Legend out of 16" barrels, if that matters to you.

 

[Theohazard]

One do all can is the starting point desire of every suppressor newbie, most wind up with at least a few after they figure out that a few slightly more specialized cans are a much better solution than one super-compromise can.

This.

If I had a SilencerCo Hybrid, I’d never use it. That’s because I’ve accumulated several more specific cans over the years, and each does its job better than the Hybrid does. To me, the Hybrid is only a good option if you know you’re only going to be able to afford one silencer for the foreseeable future, or if you’re shooting big-bore rifles.

 

[MCMXI]

I want to get a Hybrid at some point and have @MachIVshooter thread the muzzle on the Marlin 1894 and 1895 rifles but I also have a bunch of other suppressors better suited to specific tasks. I'd only use the Harvester on .450 Bushmaster, .47-70 Govt. and .45 Colt rifles. I'm up to 14 suppressors now with four more coming in early next year and my objective is to have dedicated suppressors on every important rifle and every machine gun. They really do become an addiction.

This is how I use the ones I have and other than AAC's 18, 51 and 90T QD system I have zero regrets with any of them. I've managed to upgrade the AAC M4-2000 to use the KEY-MO from Dead Air and plan to do the same with the other three AAC rifle suppressors. When I have a good experience with a product I tend to become brand loyal. AAC, SilencerCo and Dead Air seem to meet all of my needs.

I have no experience with OSS but their helical internal system is interesting.

.22 LR - AAC Element 2/Dead Air Mask
.223/5.56 machine gun - Dead Air SANDMAN-S/AAC M4-2000
.30 cal machine gun - Dead Air SANDMAN-L/AAC 762-SDN-6
Up to .30 Cal for Hunting - SilencerCo Harvester 300
Up to .30 Cal "tactical" - SilencerCo Omega 300 or AAC Mk-13 (modified)
.338 Lapua - AAC TITAN-Ti
9mm pistol/carbine - AAC TiRANT 9 and TiRANT 9M
.45 pistol - AAC TiRANT 45

 

[MachIVshooter]

other than AAC's 18, 51 and 90T QD system I have zero regrets with any of them.

That can be changed, ya know

I don't think anybody likes the AAC QD mounts, as I've been converting an average of about 6 per week, mostly to Omega pattern with the occasional direct thread job













Can also do SWR/SiCo, Griffin and others as long as the outer tube is some flavor of steel

 

[MCMXI]

@MachIVshooter, I had the M4-2000 converted to the Omega threads over a year ago and it's way better. I do have three more to convert so PM sent. I know you do exemplary work so I'll be shipping you the following:

762-SDN-6
MK13-SD
TiTAN-QD

 

[MCMXI]

@MachIVshooter, here's my M4-2000 after the conversion by Whitworth Tool. I had them thread the inside of the can 1.375-24 UNS. I asked them to part off the rear of the suppressor leaving the welded insert. There was plenty of material for threading. The suppressor shown below lives on a 5.56mm machine gun with a 10.5" barrel and after thousands of rounds the paint has mostly burned off but the can works great.

 

[MCMXI]

Here's how the 51T QD interface used to look.



Here's the suppressor after a bunch of kids put 500 rounds through one of my machine guns and burned the paint off.

 

[MCMXI]

@MachIVshooter , four AAC suppressors went out today. Thanks for offering this service.

 

[Gtscotty]

@MachIVshooter

Does amazing work, there is a really interesting thread full of his wizardry and happy customers over on ARF.

 

[MCMXI]

Not only does he do good work, he takes the time to call the customer. He called me this afternoon to let me know that he had received my four suppressors which arrived today. I think I'll be sending more work his way over the coming months.

 

[MCMXI]

I got the four AAC suppressors back this afternoon from @MachIVshooter. He did a great job on the three that he could modify. I'll be sending the Mk13-SD back to him when he's set up to weld titanium. It's one of my favorite suppressors so hopefully he'll be set up sooner rather than later.

 

[748]

Well do you want quiet?
Or quiet and light or does weight not matter?
Need a recoil booster for a delay blow back pistol?
Would you like to be able to see the pistols sights?

To get one that does everything and masters none you spend a ton of money on marginal effectiveness.
If you fire a 22 through a 45 can it's not going to be as quiet as a 22 can of the same size and that 45 can is going to be really fat.
If a can take a 308 rifle blast it's going to be heavy.

For my mk4 pistol I have a gm22 it's perfect, pretty quite, weighs almost nothing, comes apart easy, cleans up fairly easy, goes together easy, see the guns sights it was only $250. It's like it was made to on a ruger mark 4.
Same thing with the gemtech SFN, but it was specifically made to go on an FN fiveseven pistol, so I expect it to work well.

 

[JulietTango]

I like my Sparrow for .22lr. If I run it dirty it’s plenty quiet. Easy to disassemble and clean. I do wish I had QD capability though

 

[NSDQ]

I went with an Omega. They offer a first responder discount once in a while , so the price was really nice. I swap it between a 5.56 all the way up to my 300 Norma magnum with very good results.
With the muzzle brake end cap recoil is reduced dramatically on the Norma, and I dont go home with a concussion headache when I am shooting on a covered range doing load work up. I have also shot the Dead air Nomad and believe this is a solid choice as well.